Arleen Shotland ~ “they weren’t very well liked”
Arleen Shotland
4 mutual friends including Pamela Anne Goldkorn and Keith Henry Smith
Lives in Durban, KwaZulu-Natal
Works at Tyson Properties Durban
You are now connected on Messenger
You sent November 25, 2018
Hi are you related to Benny shotland? I didn’t know him, but my parents did I seem to remember him as a bald man, that’s it? Did you see the question I posed on Howard Feldman’s Wall?
Arleen sent November 25, 2018
Hi Bennie was my father in law
You sent November 25, 2018
Was I right about his physical description? Was he involved with tastic rice? What do you do, and his son?
Arleen sent November 25, 2018
Yes he was bald but not tastic rice, Shotland’s packaging and travel industries
Arleen sent November 25, 2018
I’m Out I’ll answer you later
You messaged Arleen about your story
Did you have a relation involved with tastic rice?
You sent December 27, 2020 at 5:56 PM
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You sent December 27, 2020 at 5:56 PM
What do you do? What does your husband do?
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 1:44 AM
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Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 1:46 AM
I’m not related to the Tastic Joffe’s. I was married to Neville Shotland one of Bennies son. What were your parents names?
You sent December 28, 2020 at 5:49 AM
Bernie and Zena What do u do? I write on the military economy – just finishing a book where The Diamond Invention written in 78 leaves off. The author Prof Edward J Epstein makes it available free on the Internet
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 5:58 AM
I sell property, not that interesting
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 5:58 AM
Yes of course. ZENA was Ash sister. ZENA had a modeling school. Very friendly with all our family…….. this message is from my ex husband
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:04 AM
Glad to see that you and your ex are friendly What does he do? Send me your email and you can see not only more about my rather unique parents and grandparents but putting the final pieces in place for the official launch of my book.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:05 AM
The fact that your ex knows my mother’s maiden name does of course tell you the closeness
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 9:06 AM
Neville is semi retired. We have 3 sons and 6 grandchildren. The dynamics of our family are amazing .
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 9:07 AM
Oh wow that is amazing
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 9:07 AM
arleen@tysonprop.co.za
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 9:09 AM
I’m sure Neville would be interested as well neville@walmay.co.za
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 9:10 AM
You Mom must have been an amazing woman
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:11 AM
She is
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:12 AM
The lady’s speech – My mother Zena Gevisser – Netanya, Israel – September 22, 2016, 11:33 am
youtube.com
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 9:12 AM
She is still alive. When did they leave SA?
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:12 AM
What business is Neville in? Where does he live?
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:13 AM
As far as I know my mom is still alive.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:14 AM
My mom returned to England not long after I immigrated to the States in 1978.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:16 AM
After 30 years of marriage my parents got divorced but remained very close. The rabbi who gave the get said, “Most people who get married give the same reasons you give for getting divorced.”
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:18 AM
An insight into their relationship is the two weeks they spent as guests of Nehru at his private residence in New Delhi.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:20 AM
No head of State ever got such treatment.
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 9:20 AM
Are you not in contact with your Mom?
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:20 AM
No Captain of Industry got such treatment.
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 9:21 AM
Neville and his brothers had Shotland’s packaging and Travel industries…….. they parted ways unfortunately ….. he then went into the fast food business
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:22 AM
I see your question, which I will answer shortly, but first tell me if you gave watched the 9 minute and 24 second The Lady’s Speech which I filmed the morning of September 22, 2016 having arrived in Israel the evening before?
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 9:25 AM
Yes I did. Wonderful lady. I came to Durban in 1973 and come to think of it I remember that name but I don’t think I met her. Your Mom wanted you to be responsible for her and not anyone else
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:35 AM
You got the essence of the speech.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:41 AM
7 days before, September 15, 2016 my 3 elder siblings went behind my and my mother’s back and got a non family member, an Israeli lawyer friend of theirs appointed as my mother’s guardian on the basis that no family member wanted to take care of my mom and that my mother was suffering from advanced dementia. They, including their amoral, malicious Israeli lawyer knew not only that I was arriving in Israel to get the guardianship but they had heard recent phone recordings of me and mother where my mother is explicit of her awareness that my 3 elder siblings are not to be trusted.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:43 AM
We only found out on September 25, 2016 of their dirty deed when Israeli police showed up at my mother’s apartment with the purpose to have me removed.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:43 AM
They didn’t gave the court papers and so they were unsuccessful.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:46 AM
However, at 1:30AM on September 27, two different policemen showed up with the fraudulent court approved guardianship papers along with a Restraining Order against me, and so my wife and I along with our doggy we had brought from the States were removed.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:47 AM
At the court hearing on October 5, 2015, i presented to the judge who issued both the false guardianship and the Restraining Order The Lady’s Speech.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:48 AM
At that moment the judge should have authorized for the Israeli lawyer to be handcuffed and warrants issued for the arrest of my 3 elder siblings.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:49 AM
That did not happen because the entire Israeli judiciary is corrupt.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:51 AM
You learn this as a novice of Israeli politics by reading chapter 16 of Professor Edward J Epstein’s epic 1978 nonfiction novel, The Diamond Invention, titled WARRING WITH ISRAEL.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:51 AM
The D I book is free on the Internet without having to download it.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:54 AM
My Israeli lawyers were both corrupt and incompetent, but they all understood the gravity of the crime as well as why my mother and I would never find justice in Israel.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:57 AM
The describable judge did allow for me to visit again with my mother starting on October 8, when my mother and I decided that the situation was getting “hot”. I remained in Israel a couple more weeks traveling the length and breadth of Israel trying to find one honest lawyer or politician, and came up empty handed.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 9:58 AM
They have also cut off all phone contact with my mother.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:02 AM
I also heard going on 2 years ago from my mother’s one tenant who was forced out his bachelor apartment on the same floor as my mother’s luxurious large apartment by the lawyer-siblings because they wanted to sell the apartment and pocket the cash, some 400k Euros, that my mother had lost her mind and was now walking with a Walker and that there was no sign of her second poodle who they had put to sleep right before my last meeting on Oct 8 2016.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:04 AM
To know ugliness you first have to know the true story of our Jewish Holocaust which the Holocaust museums don’t come close to telling.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:06 AM
There is a reason we all live a short life which dates back to our previous lives and how well we played those cards to be afforded the best parents and the worst and all those in between; the same way how we play our cards in this lifetime directly impact our future lives.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:07 AM
The selfish return as shellfish.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:08 AM
My siblings and their lawyers and the judges and all the politicians over in Israel who perfectly understand this gravest of all injustices are not out of the woods.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:09 AM
They are already suffering from their lies as well as my continuing public exposure of their murder of murders.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:11 AM
I don’t need to wish them harm because they are all getting increasingly sicker and that much closer to death when it is not going to be a warm reception.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:12 AM
I must now get back to finishing my next email broadcast that is titled, Pick.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:13 AM
You and your ex are only included in the blind copy section and you will recognize names in the cc section.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:14 AM
Btw, in 1972 at age 15, while on Ulpan-Gadna training
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 10:16 AM
Gary this is a horror story, my heart breaks for you and your Mom, thank goodness she is not aware of what it going on The Shotland’s have had a similar situation but they have all moved on. …….. also a very long story. I wish you well and there is such a thing as Karma you and your family stay safe
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:19 AM
at my mother’s close friend David Ben Gurion’s kibbutz Sde Boker and meeting Ben Gurion for the first time on 1 November 1972, I shared with him who was still very much the head of Mossad an important truth, “Those who know, don’t talk; those who don’t, do all the talking. Once you tell a secret it is no longer a secret.”
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:20 AM
That was in response to his question just days before returning to Durban in late December 1972, “What have you learned?”
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:24 AM
Worth also mentioning now that a little over 5 years later, in early spring 1978, and having completed my university economic studies, I began a year long orientation to join De Beers which was directly supervised by Harry Oppenheimer who along with his father Sir Ernest should have been the first prosecuted at Nuremberg.
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:24 AM
I officially joined them in early spring 1979 when I looked like this
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:25 AM
It is my mom looking at me proudly
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 10:26 AM
That is so interesting, why should the Oppenheimers been prosecuted……
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 10:26 AM
It is know by all that Harry Oppenheimer denounced his religion
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:32 AM
Read chapter 9 of The D I book, DIAMONDS FOR HITLER https://edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap9.htm
Chapter Nine – Diamonds for Hitler
edwardjayepstein.com
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 10:32 AM
I will definitely!
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:35 AM
Are both your parents Jewish? May I ask how old are you and Neville?
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 10:38 AM
Yes both my parents were Jewish, she was born in Lithuania, my father was born in SA. I am actually working on getting Lithuanian passports for my children
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 10:38 AM
I am 66 and Neville 71
You sent December 28, 2020 at 10:39 AM
Where in Lithuania?
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 10:40 AM
Kupashik…..
You sent December 28, 2020 at 11:00 AM
Let me know once you start reading The D I book. It shouldn’t take long for your whole view of the world to change.
Arleen sent December 28, 2020 at 11:00 AM
I will…… thank you
You sent December 29, 2020 at 8:55 AM
I delayed sending out the email because I’m waiting on feedback from another fb friend. Do you have anything to do with the Lazarus family, originally from Durban North? What do you think of their contribution to the Jewish community? I saw a photo of you at the Jewish Club. When you are next there would you take a photo of the board in the entrance showing past presidents and chairman; when I was back a few years ago I took several photos and they were all not in perfect focus. I’m looking to capture the name of my father who was a past President and chairman. It will be great if you can, and there is certainly no hurry.
Arleen sent December 29, 2020 at 9:05 AM
I know the Lazarus Family. Unfortunately because of Covid we cannot go to the Jewish club at the moment. We now have a holocaust museum there which is amazing. There have been so many changes, I would t know where to start.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 9:32 AM
Yes, I have been to the Holocaust museum which I believe also goes by the name museum of Tolerance. Did you know that the Lazarus’ who I believe were the principal financial supporters also openly supported the National Party-Apartheid Regime?
Arleen sent December 29, 2020 at 9:47 AM
No that I didn’t know
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:01 AM
Do you know if Neville knew? Both Gunter and Bernard held fund raisers for the National Party at their homes. Those fund raisers’ principal purpose was to create fear amongst those who didn’t care for the labor policies of the AR. If you didn’t show up the AR took just as careful note and when they came calling you were expected to help their informer network. Did you ever hear the cry from the Jewish community, “If there was not a black problem in South Africa, there would be a Jewish problem”?
Arleen sent December 29, 2020 at 10:09 AM
I’m not sure if Neville knew maybe his father did. The Jewish community is diminishing in Durban…… pearl and Bernard live in Israel, she is 90 and he has had a stroke and totally out of it. Gunther died many years ago and his wife Joan lives in Los Angeles
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:36 AM
Did you ever hear that cry? I know Gunter who we would call “The Pig” died of throat cancer. Notice how Sidney Lazarus has no problem showing the faces of all his fb friends and there are bunches of Shotlands He learned a lot from The Pig who my mother especially knew very well. You know the axiom, keep your friends close and your enemies even closer. I take it that you are not very familiar with the Gestapo’s Zagiew Jewish collaboration network which ran into the hundreds and thousands throughout Nazi occupied Europe hunting down Jews trying to escape. The Gestapo also sent them into the Warsaw Ghetto after the crushing blows, picking off the few survivors. Why do you think at the Lazarus’ Tolerance Museum there is scant to no mention of the Zagiew or their fellow Jewish Kapos inside the death factories who the Gestapo didn’t feel the need to arm? Sidney, like his mother Joan and his siblings all know the truth about their open support of the National Party whose policies fell in line with Nazi Germany and there is no count given of black South Africans murdered in their villages or on the way to the ANC training camps which had all been infiltrated by the AR. Sidney now lives in the house of the managing director of Moshal Gevisser, Sol Moshal who was also compromised. You have heard, birds of a feather flock together. Why not ask Sidney publicly if his family openly supported the National Party and in retrospect does he think it was a mistake? Second question, do you think his family being honored at Durban’s Tolerance Museum is a slap in the face of those murdered by the Apartheid Regime’s hit squads?” Btw my cousin and classmate, Sandy (Moshal) Jacobson (1957-1997) was tortured to death by fellow members of Umkhonto. Her grandfather was Sol Moshal. Sandy’s demise is covered in detail by our mutual uncle David Gevisser (1926-2009), my father’s first cousin, in his 2006 autobiography THE UNLIKELY FORESTER which you can access from David Gevisser’s Bio on my website 2facetruth.com. David Gevisser was also long compromised. His benefactor was American Charles W Engelhard Jr (1917-1971) who Mossad took out on March 2, 1971, having turned just 54 the month before. Engelhard was Harry Oppenheimer’s partner and he brought powerful connections to the table.
2facetruth.com
2facetruth.com
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:38 AM
Engelhard is on the far left at the opening of 1964 World Fair which my mother Zena also attended.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:42 AM
Charles W Engelhard Jr who grabbed majority control of Moshal Gevisser’s hugely valuable ACME TIMBER INDUSTRIES in 1956, is the central character of Chapter 18 of The D I book, titled, THE AMERICAN CONSPIRACY.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:43 AM
Chapter Eighteen – The American Conspiracy
edwardjayepstein.com
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:43 AM
The D I book is the litmus test for morality.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:44 AM
You need intellect to have morality.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:44 AM
You should be able to see clearly the forces of dark lined up against my mother Zena and me.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:45 AM
No one however is a match against the light forces of Mother Nature.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:46 AM
What goes around comes around with a vengeance.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:46 AM
One has to confront evil at every turn.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:48 AM
There is no evidence that we only live once.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:50 AM
There is great evidence of transformation before our very eyes when the caterpillar weaves its a cocoon and out comes a beautiful butterfly.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:51 AM
Karma simply doesn’t express it quite so well. Being passive is to be indifferent.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:52 AM
The human pays a price when for example it is indifferent to the care of its body which doesn’t come with a replacement.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:53 AM
It should have got hour attention that the only person seriously commenting on The Lady’s Speech is me.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 10:54 AM
Remember the grand slogan, “If there wasn’t a black problem…”. What happened to the Jewish people defending human rights?
Arleen sent December 29, 2020 at 10:59 AM
You are telling me things that are quite unbelievable, but most interesting and horrific, you have opened my eyes to a lot regarding the Lazarus’s….. they weren’t very well liked …….. are you going to write a book?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:00 AM
This is my book. It picks up where The D I book leaves off, while filling in the few but critical gaps.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:01 AM
You haven’t yet said if you have begun reading The D I book. That is strange.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:02 AM
Most people begin reading it immediately.
Arleen sent December 29, 2020 at 11:02 AM
Okay…….sorry I haven’t started yet but will do tomorrow afternoon
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:03 AM
You would expect a great many of not most of Sydney’s fb friends to have long read it.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:04 AM
Why not write on his wall asking him about his family’s open support of the Oppenheimers’ Apartheid Regime as well as if he has read The D I book and whether he has any comments?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:04 AM
You would be the first to show backbone.
Arleen sent December 29, 2020 at 11:05 AM
I can’t do that.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:05 AM
The biblical story of Sodom & Gomorrah is being played out right now before our eyes; it is just much clearer.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:07 AM
Notice how you went from “amazing” to telling me that the Lazarus are not well liked.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:08 AM
Do you remember me mentioning “Those who know, don’t talk; those who don’t, do all the talking. Once you tell a secret it is no longer a secret”?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:10 AM
The Lazarus’ know all this. They know everything about each member of the Durban Jewish community. They reward the obedient.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:12 AM
For some reason people who don’t contribute much to the betterment of humanity which first requires taking care of Mother Nature are most fearful of death; that somehow their life is more precious.
Arleen sent December 29, 2020 at 11:15 AM
Whew there’s a lot to take in…….. are you angry?
Arleen sent December 29, 2020 at 11:15 AM
I’m asking with respect?
Arleen sent December 29, 2020 at 11:15 AM
Your Mom had a partner, a Zulman, I think he had a pony tail?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:15 AM
That is a very funny question and one that I hear often. It is a defensive move and it is very ugly.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:16 AM
You can see from the health of my body that my mother applauds that I have a most positive view of things and no less optimistic about the future.
Arleen sent December 29, 2020 at 11:17 AM
I don’t mean to be ugly, you are a highly intelligent guy and have the utmost respect for you….
Arleen sent December 29, 2020 at 11:17 AM
If I offended you I apologize
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:18 AM
Let’s not digress talking about Alan Zulman who died on August 6, 2006. Rather, why can’t you confront Sidney Lazarus and the rest of the shills? Don’t you want to know exactly who in your inner circle to begin with, are corrupt?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:19 AM
My intelligence comes from being moral.
Arleen sent December 29, 2020 at 11:20 AM
I don’t want to get involved in things I don’t know very much about……
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:20 AM
Had I answered that I am angry, what difference would it have made to you? Would it have made you happy or sad?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:21 AM
Zulman died August 6, 2016
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:24 AM
Btw, Zulman found out in late December 2001 how systemically corrupt is the Durban Jewish community and more importantly that it was no secret to Ben Gurion. He didn’t take it well. Moreover, from his dealings with his best friend and business partner Abe Dubin, he already knew the entire Jewish leadership of Durban was corrupt but not that it permeated throughout.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:29 AM
I don’t buy your very weak excuse. You get educated by reading intelligent material as I and The D I book provide as well as by asking the right people the appropriate questions. You already have the foundation that the Lazarus’ are not very well liked.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:30 AM
You can begin by saying that you have been speaking to me and that I mentioned his family openly supported the disgraceful National Party and his parents and uncle held fund raisers for the National Party at their homes side by side. How can you be proud of the Lazarus’ hypocritical Museum of Tolerance?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 11:31 AM
You see this game of life is all about moral choices not how to have pleasant and meaningless conversations.
You sent January 5 at 4:08 PM
Do you know what the blacks of South Africa had done to us Jewish South Africans which would have us curse them?
You sent January 8 at 7:45 AM
Over the course of the next few days I will be tying up all loose ends There are less than a handful of communications to get out including one to my siblings who grew up knowing that the Durban Jewish community led by 3 most evil personalities Sol Moshal and the Lazarus brothers was sick. Unlike you and the rest my immediate family didn’t sing their praises publicly and then trash them behind their backs because we had two parents who resisted strongly the urge of the weak to be two faced As you know the ugliness of the human who is weak through lack of willpower which is most often written in their bad body language is to be defensive and ask the ugly question “are you angry” which only a bad psychologist would do which is not to suggest it is healthy listening all day to someone else’s psychological problems no matter how much one is paid The fact that you and so many shitlands sic are fb friends with the Lazarus clan and yet you all think the same is what I was talking earlier about the very sick Durban community that obviously hasn’t got healthier over the years I saw that Bernard and he wife celebrated their 70th wedding anniversary and tons of the two faced all bought because you can’t be stupid to think black skin people are inferior chimed in wishing the two of them well Maybe I missed your name when going through the comments You also would have seen my two emails to Steve Linde which would hove shook you up but not to the point of you writing and thanking me or saying a positive word about the disgrace of everyone who remains quiet about my mother Zena There is too much order and beauty in this world which I experienced first hand yesterday on a hike at the 6000 feet elevation and it only got better as the day progressed for man to be so destructive.
You sent January 8 at 7:55 AM
The big picture here in earth is of course monopolies and your research would show that my well founded support for Elon Musk couldn’t have been more perfectly timed.
You sent January 8 at 9:56 AM
I just noticed you unfriended me.