Business has no country
November 30 at 8:03 PM
November 30 at 5:00 PM
54 comments
Jerry D. Smith
Whose responsibility is it to feed, clothe, shelter and care for us?
1 Dec. 6:05 AM
Ruth Les Gypsy
Jeremy Bryan Smith
Jerry D. Smith Well, it certainly wasn’t my decision to be brought into this clusterfuck of a world
But seriously… Nobody asks to be here. Under our current society, we are effectively born as slaves to a system we never agreed to be a part of.
How about, instead of letting multinational corporations and the few oligarchical elite claim ownership of the natural resources on this planet and allowing them to exploit those resources for profit, we admit that everyone deserves an equal share of the portion of value that is created by nature alone from those resources?
I would argue that there is easily enough value inherit in those resources to give everyone the basic necessities of food, clothing, shelter, and more (enough for the purposes of maintaining a reasonable quality of life) and still allow for people to be fairly compensated for their efforts converting that value into the various forms that people enjoy.
Jerry D. Smith
Jeremy Bryan Smith who would collect, process, store and distribute the natural resources?
1 Dec. 11:24 AM
Jerry D. Smith
Personally, I have never felt enslaved to any system. If I don’t like my situation, I am free to make changes and persue happiness.
3:09 AM
Jeremy Bryan Smith
Jerry D. Smith Although getting rid of the current toxic multinational corporations engaging in natural resources collection would be great, that’s not the point. The point is that they are already compensated for the value they add by collecting. But they charge others not only for the value they add, but also the inherent value of those resources as well, which nobody has the right to own IMHO. They did not create those resources.
1 Dec. 5:49 PM
Jeremy Bryan Smith
Jerry D. Smith That’s exactly what the system wants you to think.
1 Dec. 5:51 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Jeremy Bryan Smith mankind is faulted. Whether it’s a sole proprietorship, corporation, government, or cooperative, if mankind is involved, society will experience unfairness. Mankind is inherently greedy, envious, sloven and self serving. There will never be a system which dispenses fairness to all. We are not entitled to anything at birth. We will be rewarded in accordance with our contribution. I wouldn’t want it any different.
1 Dec. 6:20 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Jeremy Bryan Smith
1 Dec. 6:26 PM
Jeremy Bryan Smith
Jerry D. Smith One of mankind’s biggest faults is making no effort to make things better because they believe that “fairness is impossible.”
1 Dec. 7:01 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Jeremy Bryan Smith Greed, envy and sloth are what make people feel entitled. It is impossible to please everyone. Fairness is unattainable when man is involved in dispensing and measuring it.
2 Dec. 7:00 AM
Gary Gevisser
Jeremy Bryan Smith I just asked Jerry D Smith who I only know from reading his profile which says he works for Raytheon and is a student of martial arts but more importantly has begun this conversation, “Have you heard of Professor Edward Jay Epstein’s 1978 nonfiction book The Diamond Invention that explains how this making a living got so warped from the top down?”.
It is a book which brings out immediately everyone’s true colors.
Watch carefully the reaction of everyone once you start asking questions.
4 Dec. 8:22 AM
Jeremy Bryan Smith
Gary Gevisser I haven’t heard, will check it out though, thank you.
4 Dec. 11:40 AM
Gary Gevisser
Title: Do the brain good [Word count 842]
Jeremy Bryan Smith it was at 11:40 AM Calif. time that you responded to my assertion that Professor Edward J. Epstein’s epic 1978 non-fiction book, The D I explains how this making a living got so warped from the top down.
It is now 4:54 PM, and Im pretty sure that Jerry D. Smith has read what else I had to say, and so would many others who know me better.
In one of Jerry’s responses, he ends strangely with “I wouldn’t want it any different” while acknowledging that it doesn’t start out fair for everyone, because the resources such as water and other minerals including those used to build cars, trucks, “armoured” [sic] vehicles for moving cash, computers for producing bs Crypto wealth, stealth bombers that cost upwards of $2 billion each and some $204 billion in skunk works costs, roads, houses, “commerical” [sic] properties etc etc are not equally distributed because of the inheritance laws which only made sense if you were fighting alongside the King-Queen and risking life and limb.
Today one can pay your way for anything including buying computer programmers to produce the best software to fly drones with heavy duty payloads from continents away from the war-zone.
It is not the same world as during the time of Oliver Cromwell whose revolution against the corruption only lasted his lifetime and was immediately returned to the way it was, but the difference is that increasingly the King was not leading the frontlines into battle.
How did all the people get fooled all this time?
BTW, the one central character of The D I book, Harry Oppenheimer
https://www.edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap1.htm
recruited me right out of university and my year long orientation began in early spring 1978 right after I immigrated to the United States from mineral rich South Africa and by the time I officially joined De Beers-Anglo American Corporation-Deutsche Bank-Bayer-I G Farben I had the lowdown on all of Harry O.’s puppets, both “religous” [sic] and secular leadership, which you would expect given how I was being groomed to eventually take over from him.
The other central character who consumes most of the talk in chapter 18, THE AMERICAN CONSPIRACY is American Charles W. Engelhard Jr. [1917-1971] who was my immediate family’s “strategic partner” beginning in 1951 when he forced his way into our hugely successful ACME TIMBER INDUSTRIES one of the many corporations of the multinational trading conglomerate, The Moshal Gevisser Group of Companies [1910-1970].
Also make note that on the very day, 4 October 1978 Professor Epstein first met with Harry Oppenheimer, who along with his father Sir Ernest Oppenheimer should have been the first prosecuted at the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunals [1946-1948], I knew what I would be seeing just a few months later when joining Oppenheimer’s most important site holder on US soil, Codiam Inc. who remain headquartered on 47th Street New York City.
The link I provided above “short-circuts” [sic] the need to look for The Diamond Invention [D I] book which is available for free on The Internet.
You would expect by now a great number of people to have read it in addition to my fb friend Errol Graham Musk, the very brilliant engineer father of Elon Musk who was born and raised in Apartheid South Africa for the first 18 years of his life before immigrating to Canada-USA.
You would expect Errol Musk and I to have had many conversations which are not private because most of them have taken place here on facebook.
When Errol Musk who is both an electrical and mechanical engineer with an IQ of 150+ having scored the highest out of 5000 students spread throughout South Africa, and again not every South African is a fool, wrote me the following;
Gary, You need to write a big hard-cover book on the history of the past 100 years and on how humans interacted in this period and still do!
followed by:
Gary, you should definitely write a book because of your extensive true knowledge of the 20th century, even up to now. I’ve ‘read’ a book on the ‘Origins of Mankind’, written by a USA professor, given to me for my birthday. that was lauded as “amazing”. What a load of crap. A matric pupil could have written it! It should be easy (but hard work). You just start from the beginning.
it would be wrong to assume that he was high on Durban Poison, commonly known both in South Africa as well as abroad as simply DP.
Those 100 words speak much more than a deafening silence which speaks volumes.
Pretty much everyone when feeling stupid which is what The D I book is designed to do, reacts by laughing it off, before becoming angry.
This conversation which I only entered once I saw it was addressing substantively the problems of the world could easily go viral in the next instant.
It will, however, steer people away from the wrong choice of playing stupid which does not do the brain good.
[Jeremy Bryan Smith thumbs up]
Jerry D. Smith
Gary Gevisser you need to review my comment, you are way off. Review Jeremy’s original post and agree or disagree with that. If you have a different topic to discuss, create a new thread…
5 Dec. 5:50 AM Edited
Gary Gevisser
Title: One big happy family [Word count 1480]
Jerry D. Smith, it is now 6:19 PM Calif. time, Wednesday 7 December 2022.
On important matters I like to provide a time-date stamp because it makes for easier reading, even for those with “Gnattention”.
https://twitter.com/GaryGev…/status/1600153014135771138…
I want to be equally clear that I am not saying that you have the attention span of a gnat, or anything close.
On the contrary, I firmly believe that you as well as anyone with a high school education who was not either physically or emotionally beaten up, and with no more than a low IQ could follow that my 842 word “Do the brain good” back on December 4 at 4:56 PM Calif. time was very much on point with our mutual fb friend Jeremy Bryan Smith‘s headline, “The idea of having to ‘earn a living’ implies by default you don’t actually deserve to be alive”, plus what Jeremy and you have written, and in your case specifically, what you wrote on December 1 at 6:20 PM:
Jeremy Bryan Smith mankind is faulted. Whether it’s a sole proprietorship, corporation, government, or cooperative, if mankind is involved, society will experience unfairness. Mankind is inherently greedy, envious, sloven and self serving. There will never be a system which dispenses fairness to all. We are not entitled to anything at birth. We will be rewarded in accordance with our contribution. I wouldn’t want it any different.
You Jerry D. Smith simply don’t like the fact that I point out confusion in your thinking.
When stating, “There will never be a system which dispenses fairness to all” that assumes you don’t think it is possible to get rid of the inheritance laws or you haven’t thought about them, but then you state, “We are not entitled to anything at birth. We will be rewarded in accordance with our contribution. I wouldn’t want it any different.”
Why couldn’t you have simply come back with explaining that you were confused, or what you meant when writing, “I wouldn’t want it any different” after making the point hat we are not entitled to anything at birth, which would mean you are opposed to the inheritance laws which places a “Have-not” child at a distinct disadvantage say compared to Prince William and Prince Harry of the British Royal family whose family history I am quite familiar with, not only because I have a highly literate British-English mother Zena, but once I figured out at age 13 that the minerals market is 100% rigged as well as the people responsible for rigging it, and who naturally decide on the politician contenders, whether it be for say a one horse town or the President of the United States or President of Russia or President of France or Prime Minister of Great Britain or Prime Minister of Israel, the same with the tyrannical heads of House of Saud, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain and Arab Emirates, I didn’t stop looking for solutions.
We each have a duty to ourselves to figure out our purpose.
One can understand that a child born into poverty, which is violence, cannot be expected to go much beyond how best to keep their head above water.
You are not concerned about distracting me which you gathered from my very well written “Do the brain good” that I know exactly what I am talking about and to do anything less than remain focused would indicate that I am a fool.
It was also not lost on me that you could see that this fb wall belongs to Jeremy Bryan Smith with whom I share 10 mutual friends, and he simply gave a “thumbs up” to “Do the brain good”, and yet you are suggesting that I buzz.
Even if you tell a fly, “buzz off” it will not listen to you, but until you have tried to put yourself, using your imagination into the mind of fly, you might be pleasantly surprised or you could become very fearful that we are all being watched by a very smart omnipotent force.
You would also be wrong in suggesting that I am some sort of religious fanatic or have learnings towards groups like Scientology or Foster Gamble and his nonsense THRIVE, or The Venus Project, or Zeitgeist and let’s not bother with Infowars or the rest of the bought media.
The fact that I am conversant with the Jewish Bible-Torah also doesn’t make me religious or foolish.
There are simply no real jobs when the base, raw materials, including water, are stolen and priced by the world’s number one price fixer, my former client Harry Oppenheimer who had a great many candidates to choose from as his eventual replacement, including his only son Nicholas Oppenheimer who you see seated next to President Putin in the photo that follows, and which appears on Oppenheimer’s Wikipedia profile, although on 17 March, just 3 weeks after Putin invaded the sovereign state of Ukraine, Oppenheimer cut it in half.
Moreover, the reason given by Oppenheimer’s staff member was a lie. It contradicts what the Kremlin put out on 3 October 2008 when releasing it to the public.
Had you been born and raised in mineral rich South Africa like myself, my fb friend Errol Graham Musk with whom I share 55 fb friends, and his eldest son Ellon Musk, that meeting between President Putin and Mineral King Nick Oppenheimer would undoubtedly be much more disturbing than had you not recognized Nick Oppenheimer, unless you were totally out of it, say on drugs at the time or you had done too many drugs in your youth as many have.
The fact that Elon Musk has been very clear that he expects massive unemployment in 30 years of course is in contradiction with his desire that we should be pumping out babies, because back in 1987 the exponential rise in human population began to slow down.
All that baby stuff is just noise.
There are a lot of things that Elon Musk says that he does not fully explain and that may have everything to do with no one asking him the right questions or he simply thinks everyone is stupid which is hard to fault him for.
We only have to work for a living because with the minerals market rigged and the top politicians all working together to get rid of all the dissenters when there will be only democracy throughout the planet, there is gross misallocation of the resources which help create all the conflicts.
They are simply not moving fast enough, and Mr. Zelenskyy’s failure to capitulate at the start of the Russian invasion is a big problem for them.
Also Zelenskyy was a great comedian which doesn’t mean he was a fool to begin with.
You probably didn’t think Zelenskyy is a good read of people.
If Zelenskyy was reading this he should be greatly encouraged.
May I suggest everyone study this extraordinary interview of incoming Israeli prime minister Netanyahu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OcaMRLTyGI
which was conducted by Jordon B Peterson who has some 5.97 million subscribers to his Youtube channel and there have been 544K views of the interview conducted 2 days ago.
You couldn’t possibly get a better read of the history of us Jewish people that goes back some 3500 years ago, and our right currently to occupy the land, than what orator Netanyahu provides, but his display of politics-economics, to use Errol Musk’s words, “What a load of crap. A matric pupil could have written it!” and that is being far too generous, unless modified, “… a very low IQ matric pupil could have written it!”.
Should Israel with Netanyahu once again calling the shots, enter a “Peace Accord” with Saudi Arabia as he did with Bahrain-Arab Emirates, it will be Israel giving legitimacy to the House of Saud, and not the other way round.
How in the world can you even shake the hand of Mr. Bone Saw?
He has no military of his own.
Has this world gone absolutely mad, or is it more likely our destiny?
One should be cautious when anyone, let alone its stickler for speech prime minister sledges intellectual giant, David Ben Gurion who while long dead and therefore not able to defend himself, at 4 feet 11 inches tall, commanded Mossad beyond its miracle performance, which was in Israel’s War of Independence [1947-1949]; and in reality much earlier when it was obvious someone very rich and powerful, connected to the Royals, world leaders, as well as the Central Banks wanted to speed up the day for when there would only be rich people getting along famously, and the help treated increasingly like members of the family; and once those menial jobs are replaced by robots, and the help no longer having to slave, not even for themselves, everyone will be one happy family.
7 Dec. 6:51 PM
Kelly Hostetler
We don’t have to earn a living, the living is already here, all we have to do is nurture it and collect it’s harvest. No other species has to work for a living.
1 Dec. 1:07 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Kelly Hostetler nurturing and collecting are methods of earning. You can choose to share your harvest with others who refuse to nurture or collect and they will not have to earn their living!
2 Dec. 1:00 PM
Kelly Hostetler
Jerry D. Smith when I speak of earning a living I’m speaking of financially and as far as I know we are the only species that chargers ourselves to live here on an otherwise free planet.
And coming across an apple tree or anything that bears fruit isn’t really earning a living, it’s just picking and eating which doesn’t involve much labor at all other than the digestive tract.
Thanks enjoy your day.
2 Dec. 1:06 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Kelly Hostetler making the effort to pick the apple is earning the privilege to eat it. Little effort yes, but still effort. If you give your apple to someone else, they didn’t earn the privilege to eat it, you earned the privilege of charity… For humans to survive, some have to earn to provide to those that don’t.
2 Dec. 1:06 PM
Kelly Hostetler
Jerry D. Smith I think you’re going a bit overboard but as you will and giving to others isn’t a bad deed. As the apple tree gives of itself freely without expectation.
2 Dec. 1:34 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Kelly Hostetler I just disagree with the original post. If you expect to live you’ll have to put out effort in some way, even begging is effort…
2 Dec. 3:04 PM
Jeremy Bryan Smith
But doesn’t “earn a living” imply living ABOVE the bare minimum necessities?
Why should anyone have to earn life itself? We didn’t ask for it. Like I said, that’s essentially being born a slave, forced to earn something that you didn’t ask for in the first place…
2 Dec. 7:42 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Jeremy Bryan Smith earning a living, means earning the bare necessities to live. No one is born a slave. It is true that some people are enslaved today (China and Africa). No one asked to be born. We are all responsible for ourselves, our failures and successes. Each of us is responsible for the kind of life we live. We don’t have to earn life, it was given to us out of love. At some point in time (when we move out of our parents house) we become responsible for sustaining our life. You are only responsible for the lives you bring into this world and your own life once emancipated. Being born does not make you a victim. I’m confident you are not enslaved to anyone or anything. You have many people that love and care for you…
2 Dec. 8:36 PM
Wess Hucker
Wess Hucker
Jerry D. Smith I thought you were attempting to make a valid point. You just revealed how privileged your position is.
You think nobody is born a slave?
Jeremy Smith wasn’t referring to just middle class Americans. He was speaking in general & your examples do not satisfy reason. Moving out of a parents house is nothing but a luxury that many don’t even have. So many orphans & people who experience struggles & misfortunes you obviously can’t understand. I agree we work to attain success when the opportunity actually exists. So many people aren’t afforded the opportunities that you obviously feel comes to everyone free of charge like a gift we all have the chance to record or reject…nothing is further from reality. So many humans on earth on this very day, could work with all their might & take advantage of every opportunity that ever comes their way, & they still wouldn’t have anything or get anywhere because of their circumstances. They can’t even earn a living so even Jeremy doesn’t have it all right. Earning a living for some people is still a privilege. And we are all responsible for many more lives than just are own. You are also responsible for all the lives you took to fill your own belly, the lust of the flesh can be costly. We can also be responsible for entire communities, so long as we act responsibly. We can uplift & inspire entire villages or kingdoms, we can earn WAY MORE than just a living, too. We just desperately need to answer our callings & stop running from truth or hiding behind patriotism. We are capable of being so much better human beings if we can break the traditions we were indoctrinated with.
5 Dec. 9:21 AM
Jerry D. Smith
Wess Hucker I am rejecting the original post “The idea of having to earn a living implies by default you don’t actually deserve to be alive”. In my opinion, we didn’t participate in our creation and didn’t have to earn our birth. Inherently, we are all worthy of being alive. It is also my opinion that each of us is responsible for maintaining and sustaining our lives as soon as possible. It is our responsibility to feed, clothe and provide shelter for ourselves. It is our responsibility to make every effort to provide for ourselves and not become dependent or expect others to provide for us. We are not entitled to anything. There are circumstances where individuals need assistance in providing their needs. However, this is beyond the scope of of my current rejection
5 Dec. 5:45 PM Edited
Sunayana Devi
I support universal basic income. If we remove hunger from humanity, and people didn’t have to fear dying from lack of basic needs, removing war from humanity becomes a whole lot easier.
2 Dec. 8:30 PM
Ruth Les Gipsy
Jerry D. Smith
Sunayana Devi how much of your personal income are you willing to contribute in dollars or percentage to provide universal basic income?
3 Dec. 5:58 AM Edited
Sunayana Devi
Jerry D. Smith just as much as I would ask anyone else to. I support war and death with my taxes (as do you), why not support life?
I have NO ISSUE helping others, giving without expectation to receive, and investing in my community. I know that unity is a thing on the quantum level and I have studied unified field theory: there IS NO OTHER.
Truth.
3 Dec. 10:01 AM
Jerry D. Smith
Sunayana Devi for those that share your desire to provide income to those that won’t work, here’s a couple of options for you: 1) contribute a larger percentage of your income to the IRS for distribution 2) create an organization that collects and distributes donations to those unwilling to work. You can do this immediately, there’s nothing stopping you. I am willing to help you get started, not as a financial contributor but as a volunteer.
3 Dec. 12:03 PM
Sunayana Devi
Jerry D. Smith I don’t believe in reinventing the wheel when there are existing models that are efficient and effective. I believe in building upon industry best practices. Other people are already doing this well.
I have a lot more options than you currently conceive.
3 Dec. 1:36 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Sunayana Devi ok, which organization are you donating to, perhaps I can help them, I can also help spread the word…
3 Dec. 2:06 PM
Sunayana Devi
Jerry D. Smith
I offered free professional counseling for more than 15 years prior to shutting down my nonprofit during the pandemic. I give time and services, not donations. I’m a single mom with disabilities who operates on about 25k/yr joyfully. Co-creating the world I live in.
3 Dec. 2:12 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Sunayana Devi you are doing your part and more! You are earning every bit of your life! I’m all for helping people that help themselves…
3 Dec. 10:33 PM
Sunayana Devi
Gary Gevisser
Jerry D. Smith, after reading, “One big happy family”, do you understand how insane is the thinking of “universal income” or do I need to explain?
7 Dec. 1:02 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Gary Gevisser I didn’t read One Big Happy Family,. It’s obvious how naive that concept is… I believe others in this thread could use enlightenment. Good luck…
7 Dec. 7:44 PM
Gary Gevisser
Jerry D. Smith naive, I’m naive?
8 Dec. 12:02 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Gary Gevisser those that endorse and support universal income are naive. I don’t know your opinion on the subject.
8 Dec. 2:20 Pm
Sunayana Devi
Jerry D. Smith
Natural; unaffected; innocent?
I mean: yeah ok.
I do have two Bachelors degrees, a Masters degree, plus an MBA, and I’m 5/7 of the way through my dissertation, earning my doctorate.
Label it whatever you want.
8 Dec. 3:43 PM
8 Dec. 3:44 PM
Gary Gevisser
Jerry D. Smith would you say it is naive to think the minerals market is not rigged?
8 Dec. 4:13 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Sunayana Devi education is part of the problem, you have been conditioned to believe the liberal propaganda. Experience provides a better education of how the real world works…
8 Dec. 6:26 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Gary Gevisser what does this have to do with universal income?
8 Dec. 6:27 PM
Jeremy Bryan Smith
lol, good luck everybody on getting Jerry to see reality. He has spent his entire adult life working for the military industrial complex and has been thoroughly indoctrinated. I doubt he is even capable of seeing anything from any viewpoint other than his own severely limited and biased perspective.
8 Dec. 6:52 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Jeremy Bryan Smith I understand the liberal perspective, I just don’t agree with it.
8 Dec. 7:08 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Experience vs modern education..,
8 Dec. 7:10 PM
Sunayana Devi
Jerry D. Smith whatever gave you the idea I don’t have experience? You have no idea what I have done in my life. Rather presumptive though. I’d argue that operating on assumptions to the degree that you do removes you from rational as well as logical discourse.
I came to enjoy the view of the progressive lens by way of a rather right wing conservative path. T’was profound depth of experience that softened me and cracked my heart wide open.
You can keep your generalizations.
This conversation, from my end, is over.
8 Dec. 8:31 PM
Gary Gevisser
Tanya Syaroff
Economist Dr Rodney Smith Phd
9 Dec. 10:36 AM
Title: Crypto rollout [Word count 244]
Jerry D. Smith once the minerals market which includes raw war materials to support the global military industrial complex is rigged, it makes giving everyone a basic “universal income” nothing more than false hope in the short term.
How can you think it is smart to play stupid, and that your brain won’t suffer?
When you earlier wrote that you didn’t read, “One big happy family” which was a very coherent response to your very confusing writings, your goal was two-fold; first to preserve whatever was left of your shattered ego; and second, plausible deniability.
I could easily have reeled you in slowly, as one would when hooking a fish – the selfish return as fish – but I changed my mind.
Would you like to change the subject to talk about the rigging of the minerals market which makes all the wars a farce, and how the SA Oppenheimers, who also control the flow of Elon Musk’s parts for SpaceX, TESLA, Neurolink, Boring Company and Twitter as well as the sneakers his son X wears to walk around San Francisco and the future rollout of Central Bank Cryptos giving everyone a few Cryptos into their bank accounts to get started while all their other cash, money instruments like gold and silver have to be converted into the now regulated Cryptos to end all the money laundering, drug and weapons trafficking?
Btw, do you think his father Errol Graham Musk has forgotten why he praised me?
9 Dec. 11:45 AM
Jerry D. Smith
Gary Gevisser what specifically do you wish to debate? My objection to the post is that I believe each of us are responsible for ourselves and are not entitled to receive “a living from the government”.
9 Dec. 4:06 PM
Gary Gevisser
Jerry D. Smith which post of mine do you object to?
Do you disagree that the minerals market is rigged because if you agree then it makes your job at Raytheon completely bogus?
Remember, I can assure you that outside of a very recent and severe stroke, former RAND CORP. official, Professor Dr Rodney Smith Phd is following, and like Israel’s Mossad, RAND Corp lead the United States into battle.
Of course if you disagree with any of that, let’s debate it.
9 Dec. 5:21 PM
Gary Gevisser
Israel Air Force Pilot, Lt. Colonel Tomer Tene; also Israel’s largest organic produce farmer
9 Dec. 5:23 PM
- Jerry D. Smith
Gary Gevisser Any market can be manipulated, I’m not familiar enough with the mineral market to have an opinion. Is there a specific mineral you’re concerned about? I will do some research and we can debate…9 Dec. 6:05 PMGary Gevisser
Jerry D. Smith I provided you with a link to Professor Edward Jay Epstein’s epic 1978 non-fiction book, The Diamond Invention.I also made you aware that I was recruited directly out of university in early 1978 by Harry Oppenheimer whose family have owned the world’s drilling industry since the turn of the last century; that is all minerals, water, uranium etc.9 Dec. 6:08 PM Gary Gevisser
Title: Contrived wars [Word count 266]Jerry D. Smith, my response to you, “… let’s debate it” at 5:21 PM Calif. time and it is now 5:44 PM which was in reply to your “… living from the government” at 4:06 PM when I was on a couple of hours hike, was followed by tagging my fb friend, IAF Pilot Tomer Tene who as you would expect from an IAF pilot, is perfectly fluent in English, and he too would be following.One example of my clear thinking that is incorporated in my writings and which is very pertinent to how each of us makes a living in this Dog Eat A Dog DEAD world which could be not only a whole lot fairer to the children as well as the children yet to be born and who are going to face increasing less wilderness which brings us the needed oxygen, but also to the health of the planet which doesn’t benefit from contrived wars, are 4 articles the Jerusalem Post, Israel’s most widely read English speaking newspaper, published immediately following the treason pardon of terrorist financier, Marc Rich by outgoing President Bill Clinton.Should you wish to see those articles, and the first was an “open letter” to American-Israeli-Soviet spy Jonathan who was now into his 16th year of solitary confinement, you just have to ask.Moreover, you wouldn’t need to take my word for it, those articles remain the most controversial, while perfectly accurate, in the 90 year history of the Jerusalem Post.BTW, are you still refusing to acknowledge that you have read my “One big happy family”?9 Dec. 5:49 PM
Gary Gevisser
Title: Business has no country [word count 1681]
Jerry D. Smith, I was wondering when you were going to next show up after a 46 day silence.
Now talking religion, asking on my fb wall, “can someone provide a concrete example of using religion to harm animals…” and my answer which you will see posted in reply at the exact same time, maybe a couple seconds difference, to what I write here; since Christianity has its origins in the Jewish Old Testament, aka Torah, the answer is in numerous places starting with Abraham sacrificing an animal rather than killing his son Isaac, who may very well have been retarded.
Then there are the Jewish Kosher laws which the Muslims have also embraced; and the distinguishing of meat versus dairy that is liquified meat, makes clear that whoever wrote Torah and/or interpreted Torah and/or modified the original writings of Torah which were written when us Jewish people were slaves in Babylon, with swords over the heads of the Jewish scribes, was making very clear that God unjustly condones the eating of the animals.
If you eat animals, you are harming them.
Moreover, each and every other animal specie as well as insects, do not financially profit from war machines such as Raytheon who pay you the big bucks, certainly more than the homeless person who works for a living begging.
So we come back to your “fowl play” [sic].
At 6:05 PM Calif. time on 9 December last year you wrote to me on Jeremy Bryan Smith‘s wall, “Any market can be manipulated, I’m not familiar enough with the mineral market to have an opinion. Is there a specific mineral you’re concerned about? I will do some research and we can debate…” which was 16 minutes after I had written, “Contrived wars” again, 5:49 PM Calif. time, and which you ignored.
But you didn’t stop there.
My response at 6:08 PM, 3 minutes after your nonsense, continues to be met with your silence.
To repeat:
“I provided you with a link to Professor Edward Jay Epstein’s epic 1978 non-fiction book, The Diamond Invention.
I also made you aware that I was recruited directly out of university in early 1978 by Harry Oppenheimer whose family have owned the world’s drilling industry since the turn of the last century; that is all minerals, water, uranium etc.”
Below is a link
https://www.2facetruth.com/contrive/
to the entire discourse on Jeremy Bryan Smith’s wall.
Why don’t you stick to the business you know; business has no country; and no business is more lucrative than the war business which has the SA Oppenheimers’ handprint, backing all sides to war, all over it, going back to the turn of the last century.
It is not like either a war profiteer and/or a Phd to be so quiet, let alone this long passage of time had to be eating away at you, I would think.
“Is there a specific mineral you’re concerned about? I will do some research and we can debate…”
So what did you come up with?
Did you figure which minerals that make up at the Patriot air defense system which Raytheon manufacturers, markets and distributes do you think come courtesy of the SA Oppenheimers’ banking-mining cartel that includes Monsanto who has a significant negative impact on the health of the humans, other animals and insects and the environment that we all share?
When you were studying all those years at university, did you ever get out in the wild and notice that the construction of houses and commercial properties to cluster ever growing numbers of human rats in the cities all the while depriving them of oxygen flow to the brain, and the high rises blocking in addition to the oxygen, the sunlight from reaching the ant human inhabitants who weren’t getting healthier, was also contributing to the exponential extinction of wildlife or are you like most unconscious and seeing forest fires as the most dangerous to property and human life to be protected at all cost, unless to be used as cannon fodder to greatly assist the revenues and profits of the warmongers, and that not only increases their respective GDP, and in turn the relative value of their currencies, but keeps more people out of prisons making it difficult for mercenary contractors like Wagner Group to recruit prison inmates and when sent first to the frontlines without sufficient armor as well as night vision helmets, their deaths save on having to feed them as well as build new prisons?
BTW, do you understand why celebrated Israeli Special Forces Commander, and future prime minister of Israel, Ehud Barak who I mentioned in my first article published in the Jerusalem Post immediately following the treason pardon of terrorist financier Marc Rich by outgoing President Bill “Rhodes-De Beers Scholar” Clinton, 42nd Commander In Chief of all US Armed Forces, commented that if he was born a Palestinian Arab he would likely be a terrorist?
Could it be that you have long realized the reach of the Oppenheimers’ tentacles that include on their payroll former Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff, 4 Star General Richard Myers, which explains your quiet as well as distracting writings?
You sound no different to the ultra orthodox religious sect-cult, ChaBAD sic
whose principal business is to promote the monies of the SA Oppenheimers-Central Banks-Cryptos and to snitch on their fellow Jewish brothers and sisters.
Nor should it comfort you if either our mutual fb friend Eric Martinson or all the remaining 8 billion humans prefer to side with you rather than choosing the truth.
Nor should you feel that you are any better than the murderous Putin who predicted well that the western alliance’s military industrial complex, including Raytheon, would drag their feet in getting Ukraine the critical air defense that would have stopped his invasion of Ukraine in its tracks, long before 24 February 2022.
When a human knows it is smart and everyone else is stupid it would be wrong to change course and follow the stupid to hell.
Again everything about this universe is totally ingenious including the genius single “mistake” human which of course logic-truth concludes is no mistake.
Earlier today at 10:09 AM Calif. time I covered this important point rather well when writing to Caroline Pettis on Mike Busby‘s wall:
Caroline Pettis what if, since there are no mistakes in this universe, other than the illogical human who couldn’t figure out that the morally reprehensible, insanely illogical, Gross Domestic Product economic index is the cause of the spending of the earth since the introduction of the asinine GDP economic index in 1934, that all of scripture, is geared towards flushing out first the hypocrite religious, followed by the politicians who we have come to expect talk out of both sides of their mouths.
You get used to trash talk long enough your brain knows no better; the same with you are the company you keep as well as the food you eat.
So then the question is, what are we all doing here just taking up space, producing children who are no more conscious, and there is still no loud outcry to protect the innocent human children from the abuse of being fed cancer causing meat-dairy (liquified meat).
BTW, while the atrocious GDP went over the heads of each and every economist and all the 92 who received Noble laureates since they first started being awarded in 1969, were grossly inept or bought, I thought it a good question to ask mineral-money monopolist, South African Oppenheimer (1908-2000) at the very start of my year long orientation into his mining-banking empire De beers-Anglo American Corporation (DAAC) which today includes Monsanto, whether economist and fellow Jewish person, Milton Friedman was on his payroll, and Oppenheimer laughed before speaking clearly, “They are all too dumb, full of themselves!”
Those 255 odd words will have already been read by a great many more than the 605 who clicked on they “like” Busby’s post.
Someone such as Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk can figure out quicker than most because they are compelled by logic to keep their organizations on track or risk becoming incoherent idiots with people concluding at best, “this happens often to creative geniuses like Van Gough” but then Van Gough could have easily succumb to the lead poisons in the paint.
Not to mention, Elon Musk gave testimony in court yesterday or the day before that is totally nonsensical and yet neither he nor the bought media, just like the corrupt politicians have yet to call him on it.
That doesn’t mean his 150+ IQ father, my fb friend Errol Graham Musk with whom I share 57 odd facebooks is unaware of the gross display of logic because soon after he had written to me on another matter, I asked him about Elon’s testimony; and I have yet to get an answer.
Of course it bothers you as it does everyone playing it fast and loose that the brilliant engineer father of the richest and most accomplished person on the planet has this to say about me:
Gary, You need to write a big hard-cover book on the history of the past 100 years and on how humans interacted in this period and still do!”
Later he followed up:
Gary, you should definitely write a book because of your extensive true knowledge of the 20th century, even up to now.I’ve ‘read’ a book on the ‘Origins of Mankind’, written by a USA professor, given to me for my birthday. that was lauded as “amazing”. What a load of crap. A matric pupil could have written it! It should be easy (but hard work). You just start from the beginning.
Nor would Elon or any reasonable person find fault with those 100 very precise words.
BTW, did you think when studying economics at university and lugging around Milton Friedman’s and the other idiot economists’ text books that because of their weight and expense that they therefore made sense?
What bothers you more, death or living?
1:09 PM. Tuesday, 24 Jan. 23
Jerry D. Smith, 56 minutes ago, 1:35 PM Calif. time, 24 January 2023, you responded on my fb wall to Business has no country with the following:
Again Jerry D. Smith, I understand that PhDs in particular don’t like simple answers to solving the problems of the world, which is why there are so many of you wasteful people, who of course serve their purpose just like ants turning humans into their highest and best use; namely, compost.
What it comes down to is that the rich human who has most profited from the spending of the earth does not want peace if it affects their lifestyle.
That is the logical conclusion.
2:53 PM
Jerry D. Smith
Gary Gevisser you need to focus on one topic at a time. Your use of Ad Hominem is revealing. Stay focused on the topic of this post.
4:49 PM
Gary Gevisser
Jerry D. Smith Phd, there is no need to attempt showing that “they” [sic] only thing you can now offer is a little vocabulary.
Remember your credentials are not that of a theologian. You are most expert at the weapons development and distribution business which is not friendly to cannon fodder.
It is to be expected that the unconscious humanoid would dive into religion, and that worked much better in the past.
Jerry D. Smith
Gary Gevisser sorry to disappoint but I’ve never worked in the defense segment of the business. True I am not a Theologian, Im a student of the Bible and I read it daily.
6:18 PM
Gary Gevisser
Dr Jerry D. Smith Phd, are you saying that you don’t work for Raytheon?
Why didn’t you say so much earlier, unless you are not telling the truth?
Your fb bio says, “Project Engineer at Raytheon Technologies”.
Is this Raytheon not the developer of the Patriot system?
6:38 PM
Jerry D. Smith you and I have been talking a lot on my fb wall today.
In all your deflecting you haven’t mentioned why you have been quiet here for the past 46 days, why is that?
You preach like you are a Holy man, a Man of God, have your purposefully continued to ignore, One Big Happy Family which I posted up on 7 December or were you simply lying because lying comes easy to you?
BTW, how would you know to ignore it, without reading it and at the same time continue to converse with me.
Could “you” [sic] diet be contributing to your problems or do you think you were simply born this way to be deceptive when it suits your agenda?
7:06 PM
At 7:49 PM missionary Dr Jerry D. Smith Phd writes on my fb wall:
Gary Gevisser review my reply. Raytheon has many business segments that aren’t engaged in missed development…
Jerry D. Smith you probably meant missile development, although the Freudian slip sounds better that you missed the nexus between real estate development being the critical arm of weapons to destroy infrastructure that also achieves the goal of shell-shocking the people to remain timid, fearful and easier to manage.
At 7:50 PM and we are still talking Tuesday, 24 Jan. 23, Jerry D. Smith
continues:
Gary Gevisser getting of subject again, stay focused…
At 11:25 PM and it is now 11:51 PM I responded:
Title: Forgive them for they do not know [word count 1024]
Jerry D. Smith you are like these 6 people on this CNN large TV screen, talking about they know nothing.
I now understand that all you know about is the construction business and could care less about the weapons side of Raytheon making a profit that affords you to keep your seat warm.
I’m surprised that your PhD didn’t teach you of the close connection between construction and weapons that destroy infrastructure, leaving future construction crews such as you to simply bury the rubble and the bodies, and then while you out and about on foreign soil singing songs, drinking whiskey and wine to pick out your next vacation home.
46 days you are silent, busy thinking how you could be so stupid to write that you have decided not to read One Big Happy Family once you have read it.
All your social skills you learned from watching TV.
Plausible deniability works for the politicians who stay in business because weapons developers such as Raytheon make enough profit to employ people like you who try to make out on social media that you are a bigwig, and an intellectual to boot.
You know of course that when the British Minister of Defense announces, “We are with Ukraine for the long haul” what he and the rest profiting from war on the poor are really saying to Zelenskyy is, “A quick end to this war means going to waste all this ramping up of production that builds our respective GDP that provides jobs that spend the earth just as war lays waste to the natural environment making clearing away the ugly sight of the rubble and holed apartment complexes to be replaced with spanking new and the forest-less open lands replaced with spiraling concrete roadways, a breath of fresh air; and all the sorrow talk lasting no more than a generation with families on both sides once again intermarrying and moving on to the next adventure.
But the loss of the extinct wildlife and natural forests is not good. It is wrong. It is bad.
Of course we all know the Russian forces can be eliminated with a squadron of F-16s just doing a flyby over the Russian tanks, maybe firing a few rounds just in case, without the need to take out the entire frontline of the Russians at the same time destroying every Russian artillery battery that cannot hide from orbiting platforms and satellites who are monitoring each and every piece of Russian military equipment just as closely as their nuclear weapons including Soviet nuclear powered and armed submarines whose commanders know that we have a torpedo up their backside the moment they launch one of their nuclear tipped missiles; and in the event they hit one target, then Russia will turn to rubble.
If I had known that you are a military neophyte I would have focused on how you know about the Russian Ruble being as price fixed as every piece of metal and electronic device that goes into weapon systems as well as consumer goods such as an Apple laptop.
Also let us know when you learned about this?
If the research is going to require you more time off from work, don’t feel the need to let us know, just speak to your boss.
Earlier in an effort to encourage the masses not to fall victim to violence and fall into the trap set by the Raytheons of the world who would be nothing without the necessary cannon fodder, I produced a 3,093 word essay.
Should you be curious, and Im not saying that I think you are intelligent, because I think you are a fool which you already know, to learn why it is that no one asks me questions as to how I knew so much about terrorist financier Marc Rich who received the treason pardon from Bill Clinton on his last day in office as the 42nd Commander In Chief, 20 January 2001, 234 days prior to 9/11, and my knowledge none of the world’s journalists had the first clue about, you can click on the lick below taking you to my last email broadcast titled, Fog of the Ukraine-Russia war that is addressed to a mathematician Professor at my alma mater, University of Natal-Kwazulu, South Africa.
https://www.2facetruth.com/fog/
Here is a 62 word preview:
My group chats-focus groups on facebook, take the cake.
They have achieved results that now scare the living daylights out of Madison Avenue-Hollywood who the small family SA Oppenheimers have owned since September 1938 when Harry Oppenheimer journeyed to New York City and won over Mr. Lauck who was just following a script his and Oppenheimer’s bank Morgan Bank had prepared prior.
Philosopher Jerry D. Smith, while it is tough that you weren’t taught if lacking the common sense to enquire further on your own when entering high school how the minerals market worked but you didn’t and the embarrassment has you running around like a chicken with its head cut off, doesn’t mean we should allow this war in Ukraine to continue a minute longer.
Why can’t you simply admit that all you have is your bullshit PhD that has you trained to keep repeating how much your lack of focus has cost you in your personality development from the time you first began sprouting your nonsense.
Again, 46 days you have been plotting and you come back with religion that if you have studied on your own, you have a bad teacher.
What sort of human, let alone a Phd cannot see that eating animals is harmful to the animals that are eaten when not sacrificed with the sacrifice replaced by today’s barbecues “burnt offerings” resulting in the animals now blessed and none of the evil spirits like cancer cells will be passed on.
Tomato sauce colored red sweetens the dripping blood.
You need attention, and Im giving it to you.
Did you read Professor Epstein’s The Diamond Invention book, or will it take you 40 years wandering in the desert to first learn how to read hieroglyphics?
11:55 PM
