Cause and effect – “Font of the line in the search for truth” [sic] -: Revisit I don’t like your type -: Slaves to History
From: Gary2 <gary@2facetruth.com>Subject: Cause and effect – “Font of the line in the search for truth” [sic] -Re: Revisit I don’t like your type – Re: Slaves to HistoryDate: July 7, 2022 at 6:46:42 PM PDTTo: Mark O. Hackner
Oscar,We covered a lot of the bullshit of economics before we even began our university studies but still it was hard to imagine the total bullshit that came out of the professors’ mouths, and your consistent rebuttal, quiet as it was, “Just accept it, it will make your life much easier”.But we never once spoke about the pricing of the money.It changes everything.Imagine though if there is God and God is watching all this playacting.What if it is true, that God exists, it makes you think more.More than that you realize that you cannot be that bright to have missed the price fixing of the money that makes all the laws starting with the inheritance laws total bullshit.How can you believe anything in a corporation’s or individual’s balance sheet?That has nothing to do with God. This is all manmade total bullshit, the price fixing of the money.Earlier I posted the following on my facebook group chat-symposium, “Forgetfullness” [sic where your mom and Vera Dubin are longtime members:Excerpt from chapter 2, My family – Growing up in Durban (South Africa) of The Unlikely Forester,autobiography of David Gevisser [1926-2009] the “male heir” of mineral-banking monopolist, German-American Charles W. Engelhard Jr.,[1917-1971] the central character of Professor Edward Jay Epstein’s epic 1978 non-fiction book, The Diamond Invention [Chapter 18 – THE AMERICAN CONSPIRACY]@Hilary Hackner, did you and @Vera Dubin receive yet a copy of my email broadcast from yesterday, “Front of the line in the search for truth”?Notice when you do that the “r” is missing in the word “Front” in the Subject line, and with the “sic” at the end, it fits in perfectly with the threads before “Revisit I don’t like your type” and “Slaves to History”:“Font of the line in the search for truth” [sic] – Revisit I don’t like your type – Slaves to History.I will make sure your youngest son, my school and university close mate, Mark Oscar Hackner gets a copy.
Oscar, there is added clarification in one paragraph which I now show in parenthesis:“Cause and effect” is so fundamental to all life you don’t need to ask, “Who created the Creator?” because it is obvious there is a creator to all this logic that doesn’t have a hint of randomness which would be the case if there was no Creator; you feel hungry because your body is hungry; and [you are hungrier, constantly hungry] the more out of shape you are from lack of exercise resulting from poor nutrition, starving your body when eating things like meat that kill you slowly by the proliferation of cancer cells, and the examples are endless while not forgetting that if you talk shit you feel like shit right after.In the course of the past 2 decades I have mostly honed my carpentry skills which doesn’t mean this is a profession I wish to pursue or that I have lost my knowledge of the Wall Street game.
However you respond you will know that predicting the future is going to be that much harder with exponentially increasing numbers of people hearing of my knowledge that shuts everyone up from the top, Nicholas Oppenheimer, down to the very bottom of the barrel.That is not a healthy proposition if you are on the side of the people who are manipulating everything without forgetting there is this “blind spot” fixed pricing of the money and the minerals that the smartest all about the money people which is all of Wall Street and then some have missed entirely.Nor do they need to go to church or synagogue or a mosque or meet with the Dali Lama to seek guidance on this abysmal state of affairs. Their imagination will tell them everything.
Yes it is bigger than any matter brought before the politicians in the past more than 100 years if not to the beginning of man-woman seeking guidance from each other.I am also sure that you can see that this whole separation of Church and State that dates back to when the slave trade was the most lucrative big business, shipping slaves all over the globe and no less big business, indigenous Americans-Canadians were being massacred to bring them into a manageable size, remains a distraction.Cheers,Gary[Word count 749]
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From: Gary2 <gary@2facetruth.com>
Subject: Font of the line in the search for truth -Re: Revisit I don’t like your type – Re: Slaves to History
Date: July 6, 2022 at 7:32:00 PM PDT
To: charles ivie <cheevesivini@gmail.com>, Gordon Torr <gordontorr@gmail.com>
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Essakow” <michelle@zanzibarcafe.com>, “Tzipora Malka \”Tzipi\” Livni” <zlivni@knesset.gov.il>, 2015 Steve Linde – South African-Israeli Editor in Chief of Jerusalem Post – I’m not saying anything about anything – July 31 <steve@jpost.com>, Maria Nickole – No longer fb friend <Phxgal2253@yahoo.com>, Norma-Jean Garza <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com>, Rabbi Luke Ford – First to out South African-American Rabbi Abner Weiss <lukeisback@gmail.com>, Rabbi Feigelstock <rabbifeigelstock@gmail.com>, “Joseph Steinberg – Chief Executive Officer of Luecadia National Corporation.” <jsteinberg@sprintmail.com>, “Tony Leon – Fomer head of the South African Oppostion Party to the current ANC regime. Now the ANC South African Ambassador to Argentinia. Tony wrote praising obituaries for both Harry Oppenheimer [1908-2000] and David Gevisser [1926-2009]” <southafrica@bigmedia.co.za>, Israel Prime Minister Bennett <nbennett@knesset.gov.il>, Ernest Rady <erady@americanassets.com>, Camille Vasquez – Johnny Depp’s lawyer <cvasquez@brownrudnick.com>Charles and Gordon, why not be quiet?It is so provocative.Replying to @GaryGevisser and @elonmuskBut the niggers do?!You were responding 4 hours ago, 1:16 PM Calif. time to my Tweet to Elon Musk back on January 10th. That is a full 177 odd days ago.
While thinking about how smart it is to treat each day that this is the day you are going to die, and we will get more into that later as I recount some of what I wrote earlier to Errol Musk who you avoid all mention of, and so he must be on your mind all the time, let’s look at that January 10th Tweet:@elonmusk, you know from reading Professor Edward Jay Epstein’s The Diamond Invention book things like tax base, budgets (surplus or deficit), trade balances (positive or negative), armies, different politicians and media mean absolutely nothing to the South African Oppenheimers.Charles before moving on to your two earlier responses on Twitter to “Reincarnation”, you do realize that there is every possibility in the world that Elon Musk will break the hold of his “captors” just as there was every possibility that Moses was talking to a burning Hemp Bush and completely out of his mind by the time he regained consciousness to proclaim “… God is One” which set the world on the Jewish people before they had even begun, so to speak; and third, Mohammed had this dream which collected most all of the Arab world and then some; and fourth Jesus Christ proclaiming he was God and most of the world still follow him.So your thinking is that there is less chance Elon Musk will fall on the sword.You may be right.I could care less.I know you are wrong.Bear in mind, you are preparing for the ant colony but that doesn’t make me a rabbi, because I am not a rabbi, just a simple Jewish person who can reason.Back on to your earlier Tweets today, 8:00 AM and 8:01 AM that stem back to Elon Musk’s personal friend, Marc Andreessen of Netscape who didn’t want to hire Elon Musk, as best I recall, saying how great are Harvard MBAs and I think if Andreessen had his life over again, he wishes he had met me sooner, but no less successful given how his work did good bringing us to this point. The truth for some reason always makes you feel happier, you must think!:Replying toMost everyone is corrupt that steals-money, I take none! same rhetoric & diatribe from your “privledged-life” [sic]. yes, very-happy, highly-accomplished and don’t consume, lie,cheat, kill, suck & pollute like most of the planet. any creator would just shake his head and have nothing toReplying todo with the homo-erectus-sap who was to be reincarnated to sapiens-sapiens, but is obviously incapable!Charles, you haven’t been helping Andreessen or Elon Musk out of their misery; you may have made it worse for them; but I see a clear way out for both.
Neither of them are dead yet, and the human body can take a serious toll before it dies completely; so they can first of all change their diet to a healthy vegan diet and that will only improve their thinking which is what they are mostly about.
Your 65 odd word, again Twitter response, once I throw in the “sic” after your misspelling, “privledged-life” [sic], has your ego all over it.BTW, you and Gordon Torr are two peas in a pod. It is not good to cry wolf, play victim.
Just as bad, for you, and all those who think the same, is that you are hurting those who most suffer, the poor, the rest of the animals, including the 60 billion killed annually to satisfy the deep craving of SOS [Salt Oil Sugar] which is nothing less than a Molotov cocktail when combined with meat and liquified meat (dairy), your favorite.Moreover, Elon Musk has proven that his new friends BOMM [Big Oil Money-Monopoly] who were his competitors from the start, have a sharp steel blade hanging over his head, but unlike the French guillotine, this one turns off all his assets in the next instant and the people won’t blink an eye. They don’t like this “foreigner” South African with the accent.Can you explain how suddenly his Twitter number of followers has suddenly stopped count?Musk held on longer than anyone else including all of you who are his fake friends and who only like him if they can make money off him.I would choose Elon Musk over anyone on the planet to make things right. And it is not because his father Errol Graham Musk would agree with me.I can see Musk having a revelation, waking up tomorrow morning and decided he has had enough playing stupid and to begin by saying,Do you really think that I am that stupid, that ill-informed, when I have studied everything there is to not know about Spinoza, that I don’t know of the mental and physical dangers of space travel just short distances like to the moon? How could you think I wouldn’t go at least once by now to the International Space Station? Do you really thin(k) I give a hoot about what my insurance coverage will allow, the same with my board of directors!!!Nor is Musk a spring chicken. In his moments of quiet he knows that his body is far from the shape it was in when he climbed trees and church steeples with the greatest of ease.Much crazier things have happened. There is the Jewish prophet Elijah who shows up at every Passover dinner, eats nothing, says nothing but all the Jewish people around the table accept that he is there but they are so busy talking and thinking of what next to say to make them appear smart, and money constantly on their minds especially the kids standing to inherit so long as they behave.Again, the Muslims have the prophet Muhammed having a dream, and Jesus Christ came with all sorts of miracles none of which touched sides with the entire creation of this universe.But taking the cake is our Moses who spoke to a burning bush and it changed the course of history.Just the words, “… God is One” still sends chills up the spine of the Pope, assuming he is conscious.How have us Jewish people managed to survive so long with traitors amongst us up the kazoo?They have run out of news and Musk buying Twitter will not bring him any friends even if he flips it to Peter Thiel for a $1 trillion or folds it and gets the tax write-off.It is amazing how a computer chip is made.Its amazing that people have high blood pressure and their brain doesn’t tell them, don’t eat meat.Money is pulled out of thin air and first given to the biggest bastards who promote themselves and their philanthropic organizations; and the most revered are the real estate moguls.Remember it is Elon Musk we want to convince the people don’t care.If they don’t care, why should he, unless he wants to be different.He didn’t have the worst childhood, but it was certainly better than most broken homes.No one likes to be thought of as a sellout because you got to pay with your soul.Charles, in your bad concoction you show that your poor financial condition didn’t bring you any humility, much like only half-black Barack Obama, despite shaking hands once with “Liberal” Ted Turner and sharing a plane ride with “Liberal” Senator Ted Kennedysoon after his brother Robert was killed in ’68 which had Ted strutting down the aisle of the small civilian aircraft where he and the pilot were smoking a joint, and Kennedy speaking clearly of his fear that he will be assassinated next.Not a single word of praise for me.What is wrong with you?How come you and the Pope didn’t know about the cold shoulder reception Senator Ted Kennedy received in January 1985
from the still enslaved first peoples of the world?Let’s say the Pope was too busy with a dignitary, there are Cardinals all over Africa like Archbishop Desmond Tutu to explain to American, Canadian and British who must first of all speak English, so in fact there are many other people around the globe who speak English that they must think it is a conspiracy that Ted Kennedy was able to keep his very unsettling visit to mineral rich South Africa during the height of the Apartheid Regime’s brutal war against the black majority South Africans, a secret.Should I put it another way for clarification purposes?Why not.How come the PBS radio and TV stations, the BBC, American networks etc etc as well as 9 odd years later when Mandela and his ANC were brought to power in 1994, there was no support for those very brave black South African protestors telling Kennedy they were on to his game?Can you imagine all the liberal arts students on the left and the right finding out in January 1985 that there is no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats as there is no difference between the far left and the far right; it is all far right.I just asked you to imagine that. I didn’t say this is all that should be talked about today because Im only now saying it.That is to tell you the power of the SA Oppenheimers throughout the globe. No one else even comes close.Archbishop Desmond Tutu presided over the fraudulent Truth & Reconciliation Commission which resulted in the assassination of my classmate and cousin, Sandra (Moshal) Jacobson [1957-1997] just 3 years into Mandela’s rule; and Sandra a member of the armed wing of the ANC, umKhonto who were fully compromised from the start, as you would expect.
Charles, you show the sort of manipulation we witnessed on the stand and after in TV interviews with Amber Heard.BTW, how much of a vote do you think Mandela had amongst that foursome?
I’m not calling you narcissistic but I am saying it is illogical to think that G DNature is non-existent because you have no fear of G DNature which again automatically means that if you believe in any Superior Being-Creator, different to bullshit, then there is an afterlife, reincarnation if you will.One thing we know for sure, no one has yet to say that they look exactly the same and think identical to someone who has passed.Let’s come back to yesterday’s Reincarnation:Title: ReincarnationCharles – @CharlesIvie8 – your big ego, manifested in your “incoherant” (sic) rants focuses everyone on the price fixing of the money which you, “Andreesson” [sic], Musk, Bezos, 99.99999% of the population including the soldiers never even thought to question.For every weak action there is an equal and opposite positive reaction.Moreover, all the foolishness and lies doesn’t invalidate the truth.You can’t possibly consider yourself enlightened or above anyone in terms of spirituality if you fail the most basic common sense test.My quantitative skills are not in question given how I am the first to spell it out.The fact that I’m humbled by the presence of a Higher Energy Reaction (HER) which is all that can explain the across the board stubbornness, ugliness, cruelty of the highest order is yet another blessing on top of my quantitative skills and most positive disposition I was born with; to mention little of having as my lover, confidante the woman of my dreams is also not something I take for granted.Not many of us are even fortunate enough to have as their soulmate someone who also places a high priority on eating little but as healthy as possible and relying on the sun’s dominant hydrogen atoms to do the rest.There is no need for charity when the poor are continuouslysqueezed by the rigged pricing of the money.Why can’t you bring yourself to admitting that you were fooled like everyone else.Try practicing in front of the mirror.You know that practice makes perfect.Have you been preparing yourself to meet up with [our] Creator?Since neither of us have anything better to do, why not share your list of questions; it can only be cathartic.How boring to live the remainder of your life in denial and expecting different results.That is insanity.It only makes sense that given how much it bothers you that you would now want to take center stage, that your first question has to be, “What is the point of obscuring from all our imaginations the question of how the money is priced and at the same time giving all this gun-money power in the hands of the most ruthless tyrants who hide behind their politicians, their corporations and no less bought opposition groups like the ACLU, Amnesty International, ‘Dictors Without Borders’ (sic), World Council of Churches and you know the rest?”.Charles, it is a colossal mind f**k cluster which cannot be explained outside of a HER.The lack of human intelligence is transparent, so why do we make such a big deal about it?Logic tells me that it bothers you that Elon Musk’s father, Errol Musk’s very public, most precise praise of me; otherwise you wouldn’t ignore it.Spirituality implies reincarnation.Are you happy with the fate you were dealt and if not why risk returning as ant?Charles, put aside for the moment that you have seen the one reaction, “Powerful” to “Reincarnation” on my fb wall that we all know gets read by more than my 2605 odd fb friends far short, however, of your rapid growth now 3752 – do you ever look up – instead let me share with you that I have continued speaking with Errol Graham Musk about Royal lineage and how very shaky are their finances; and it would be fair to say that Errol would in all probability consider my writings “En forme”.When reading what I last wrote to Errol Musk just before noon today, 11:54 AM to be very precise, realize that he does not suffer from jealousy towards his eldest son, far from it, in fact, Errol Musk is by far Elon’s staunchest supporter, forget providing the critical seed capital that mushroomed into Elon being the richest person on paper, his political clout right now worth more than everything tangible on this earth, and only cares about Elon’s wellbeing at the same time Errol Musk knows that like everyone, he agrees 100% with my findings on the absurdity of the money system which no one else comes close to covering, but he is the very first person to publicly say so.That is quite unusual.It is logical that you would agree with Errol Musk, but you don’t want to acknowledge my contribution; quite the opposite in fact?Perhaps you want to read more before I share those writings now going on 6 hours ago.Remember his son is under the hammer of the criminal enterprise SA Oppenheimers-Deutsche Bank-Auschwitz-I G Farben.Here they are:Btw, a series of coincidences.Your daughter’s father in law, Guy Thomas Steuart, II died on October 10, 2020, the 72nd anniversary of my parents’ wedding, 10 October 1948which was the same day Smuts’ beloved son Japie died of a 24 hour illness.Point being, given how deceptive, ugly, wicked, and cruel are most all humans, one should live one’s life as if you are going to die today and therefore that means for your body to be as pure as possible, something missing greatly with all the Popes and the rest of the clergy.Remember all the fraudulent money-Cryptos that the clergy and Wall Street missed, or did they?There is good reason why everyone hangs on to my words.Don’t forget I qualified to be Harry Oppenheimer’s replacement, and which I was happy to oblige, and then once in the pound seats I was going to expose all of them from the top down, but G DNature had other plans and I took mysteriously ill, which gave me the good excuse to go my own way and never looking back, over my shoulder, nothing to fear because I never opened my mouth.Nor have I ever talked crap.It is my enemies who show they are not smart.For anyone to want to distract me is very ugly.There is no news other than those who have my knowledge about the corruption of the money and the Cryptos as intellectually feeble as it can possibly get.It makes sense for there to be so many idiots who are confidant that there is no consequence for their deceit and this is a “reason” universe from the very beginning and therefore the end must be no less orderly, there must be something super intelligent having this “reason” being think and act wrong when it knows what is the right thing to do.Your son in law Guy Steuart IV might already be reading all my writings.Do you trust him because he married your daughter who hasn’t accepted my fb friend invitation.When everyone is silent it becomes obvious what they all have in common.It is not like they are on a rugby team and working together.It is very common their reaction.That makes for very strained dinner as well as phone conversations.My grandfather Issy Gevisser could have owned the entire real estate market in South Africa but that would have made him a thief and that didn’t sit well with him.Issy’s elementary schooling didn’t have him thinking it was okay if you had the price fixed money to steal the land of the previous owners who prided themselves on the collective ownership of the land and of course they fought amongst each other and the victorious tribe enslaved the loser, but they weren’t fighting over the likes of the Green Back or thinking that money printed out of thin air, and Cryptos remember taking the cake in terms of massive mental disorder, could be used to purchase the land and the new owner to enslave the sellers.So we [are] edging towards the crux of the matter, when did the Roman Catholic Church-Inquisition become benign and worse how did this important question escape the mind of the so full of itself human being.So I’m not impressed that this Steuart family started their real estate investment business in 1904 the same year my paternal grandfather Israel Issy Gevisser (c. 1890 – 24 February 1970) arrived in Durban and it wasn’t long before he moved up from pushing a wheelbarrow picking up unbroken bottles off the dirt streets to his prized possession, a horse-cart.Not to mention, Issy’s nephew, the traitor David Gevisser who was so jealous of my father Bernie writes explicitly in his 2006 autobiography, THE UNLIKELY FORESTER of another family member, Sam Hackner’s treachery when first trying to steal my grandfather and his brother Morris’ customers, “and then for good measure, tried to burn down their warehouse”.Note, not “warehouses” but their one warehouse.We are talking about family doing the dirty on the best Jewish family to arrive in South Africa and not speaking a word of English, but they had manners.Moreover, David Gevisser has no problem naming the relative “Sam Hackner”, just to tell you all this political correct bullshit is just that, total and complete bullshit.Charles, you are not alone in thinking it possible to just spend worthless money buying up someone else’s real estate rather than having to build an army, kill the strongest defenders and corrupt the survivors when not enslaving them.When you have a military commander like former Virginia Senator Dick Black who is capable of making sense of a military battlefield but clearly clueless of “military economics” talking economics out of his backside, we must get back to the rocket business.You would also expect Mark Zuckerberg to be following along should you think Elon Musk has heard of me and why it is that his father speaks publicly so well of me.Do you see the repetition as helpful?The fact that Senator Black talks about money needing to be backed by production doesn’t mean he understands what he is talking about.
He equates an increase in the production of wheat, which will cause the price of wheat to drop, if the demand remains the same, to the production of money; namely if you produce too much money the value of the money will fall.Charles you wouldn’t fall for that, would you?We are not only talking about one grown man, we are talking about most all of you; and you have got the information.The crypto exchanges are here to stay and not one person can explain it other than the people were fooled and are unwilling to admit they have been fooled.It is just about controlling the population who don’t have.
No doubt Senator Black has also heard of me because the people around him have now shut down.
So can you figure out his and their game?Remember the difference between this and the game of rugby or soccer or American football or ice-hockey?You are counting on each of you not to speak out.Cryptos which have no barriers to entry and zero ties to the production of anything not even the cow methane that comes out of your rear end after eating a dead animal such as a turkey, chicken, fish and egg, is in fact the ultimate brainwashing of the human; and you all know that you would have got away with it were it not for me calling you out.
Just the fact that anyone can start their own Crypto and drive demand should have been the first thing covered in the Harvard MBA program just to make sure that the students in the lecture hall weren’t bots.
My lifestyle was most privileged beginning and ending with having “won” the best mother and father imaginable; their team effort was nothing less than exemplary.You though want to misguide everyone into thinking that it was money that brought me knowledge and humility.How many times did you write and rewrite your atrocity in order to get your main point; namely, you don’t like the fact that you have a big, out of control ego, and you would expect to at least enjoy the wealth of the richest Wall Street players, and why not top billing?Again, it is your out of control ego that has you doubling down to avoid acknowledging that you missed the price fixing of the monies and its disastrous impact on the ever growing venture capital market where it was already over-crowded in 1929 when Sir Ernest Oppenheimer, the price fixer of price fixers, took complete control.
An ego in the vastness of this very orderly universe which Jewish Spinoza took to the highest level, and so aggravated The Inquisition’s corrupt Jewish priesthood who issued the harshest harem-excommunication on this greatest rabbi, possibly of all time, including our first rabbi Moses who could easily have been fictional which makes the story of the burning bush that much more interesting to say the least, is not a healthy move for your body-mind; and sex you know is the ultimate joy once reaching the highest levels of spirituality, and a total downer if you have forsaken your body, no erection on call, and left before taking your last breath before being instantly reincarnated, questioning if both mental and physical atrophy is the punishment for lacking the intelligence to figure out the price fixing of all the markets including real estate once the pricing of the money is rigged.“Cause and effect” is so fundamental to all life you don’t need to ask, “Who created the Creator?” because it is obvious there is a creator to all this logic that doesn’t have a hint of randomness which would be the case if there was no Creator; you feel hungry because your body is hungry; and [you are hungrier, constantly hungry] the more out of shape you are from lack of exercise resulting from poor nutrition, starving your body when eating things like meat that kill you slowly by the proliferation of cancer cells, and the examples are endless while not forgetting that if you talk shit you feel like shit right after.Spinoza was a smart man and courageous, but nor was he stupid. His writings went over the heads of the ruling elite who were one and the same as the clergy who had their own rankings and the poor clergy still don’t dress up like the Pope or the Pope’s generals.
Charles don’t give a speech about all the ants you have been counting since reading “Reincarnation”.Nor is it enough to write, “Okay Gary, you win”.Try as difficult as it may be to keep up with me and if your inclination is to stick to your pitiful dribble, so be it.
To the consternation of the Church officials Spinoza looked at everything from a rational perspective without even being aware of Quantum Mechanics and its precision, including the inexplicable Double Slit experiment that only began in the early 1800s long after his death, aged 44, on 21 February 1677 which was a good decade before Isaac Newton [1643 –1727] came out with Principia without recognition of Spinoza’s contribution which didn’t escape the attention of Albert Einstein some 2 centuries later when Einstein jumped right over Newton in his acclaim of Spinoza who put “reason” above all else; meaning to have rational thought in the first place when the rulers are hell bent on confusing the masses with ridiculous entertainment where the people have fun laughing their heads off and so disconnected from the wars all about theft of land and resources, is the last thing the Ruler-Church wanted to hear; not to mention, Spinoza born a decade after the death of Galileo [1564 – 1642) who was condemned by the same Spanish-Portuguese Inquisition, would not have been oblivious to the treachery of the church which with God as its beacon should be at the front of the line in the search for truth.So why isn’t this taught in seminary school as well as university?Copernicus wasn’t there to object.Now with the Church acknowledging that the sun is the center of our solar system and the universe much more expanse, it still doesn’t make the Roman Catholic Church and all those they have corrupted, the people to go to for the truth.Why do the media make a big thing about the people who visit with the Pope?Wouldn’t they be the last people to get counsel with given how they have previously gone after, Copernicus, Galileo and Spinoza to name only 3?You do know that Einstein was denied a Noble Prize for General Relativity which puts to shame Newton?No Einstein, no GPS. No satellites. No Hubble to confirm all Einstein’s predictions.Please confine your answer to the important question above, why isn’t this taught in seminary school as well as university, unless the others ones interest you.Bear in mind two things.
First, the pomp and ceremony of the Royalty and the most visible are the British-German Royal Family is a distraction from all their stolen wealth; and the thinking is that the more they display their wealth without giving a detailed listing of all their assets and how they came into their hands, makes their wealth that much more earned.
Second it is only the Queen ant that produces offspring and therefore your focus can only be in finding a space to sleep while being so confined, no more than one body away from the next who is on top of the next and the next.Your continued ant rant is obviously, given how exceedingly imprecise, slutty is your writings, has you preparing for how frustrating it is going to be communicating with humans who you are directed to get their attention while acting indifferent, and your look couldn’t get more alien.Earlier I sent a text message to left of left wing lawyer King Golden Jr. Esq. who unlike you is a licensed attorney and top of his graduating class at the Gentleman’s Law School, University of Virginia Law School where Robert Kennedy also graduated, not to mention UVLS have the motto inscribed on their one masonry building, “We don’t lie steal or cheat” except in this statement.It has always been the far right in control, and they simply manipulated those on the left.Do you remember the exact day you realized this?It must have been traumatic.Surely you have discussed it with your children because why wait to be reincarnated when it will be frustrating not to be able to express yourself saying you are sorry and them finding out the truth when reading my writings, which could also take place were you to have a stroke like Kennedy.Btw did you see the “powerful“ response to “Reincarnation” on my fb wall yesterday?Only one, but it only takes one.Let’s move on to Elon Musk now in the past few hours talking about flatulence in space that has been known since man first went to the moon in ’69 stinks up the rocket human capsule and not lost on all those who have been to the International Space Station, without forgetting how they have been hiding all the physical and mental deficits that come from even short distances of space travel, explaining clearly Musk’s trepidation.Now you know yourself being a meat and dairy eater that it is a stench far different to someone who eats healthy vegan avoiding the SOS [Salt Oil Sugar] needed to camouflage the taste and smell of rotting animal carcass.Do you think Musk is not paying attention to me because his father is in regular contract with me and just wrote me yesterday about an intimate family member being “wicked” and he wasn’t talking about Elon?Who do you think he was talking about?You are now into showing scantily dressed women selling their bodies on your fb wall. So much for your intellectualisms; so I adjusted.Below are Elon’s most recent Tweets, bearing in mind again that his exponential recent growth of followers drew to nothing after his birthday, some 8 days ago, stuck at 100.3 million:Humanity will reach Mars in your lifetimeWithout a common goal,humanity will fight itselfMoon brought us together in ‘69,Mars can do that in the futureNo later than 4/20/1964 when bought Mandela gave his disgusting nauseating sickening “I am Prepared to Die” speech from the dock of the Oppenheimers’ South African Supreme Court which was of course prepared by his bought lawyers, including his corrupted Jewish South African lawyers, the world should have immediately woken up to the fact that this world has been ruled by the far right who unashamedly declare “Might is Right” when not rewriting history as this one person told me earlier on fb in relation to the indigenous American first peoples who didn’t want to trade their lands or women with the white settlers from Europe wanting to enjoy religious freedoms:Gary Gevisser mostly they were armed by the British. That alliance ended poorly.They had allied with the French against the British and lost in the 7 years French/Indian War. They allied with the British in the American War for Independence and lost. They allied with the Confederacy against the Union and lost. They were armed every time.
Charles, when did you wake up to this search for “religious freedom” being total bullshit?
Do you think it occurred on the trip of the Mayflower or before, at the University of Leiden?Do you think Isaac Newton over in England, a very short hop to Amsterdam and Leiden, didn’t speak about Spinoza’s work?Shall we move back to South Africa which the Dutch East India Company based in Amsterdam grabbed in 1652, just 4 years before Amsterdam living Spinoza was excommunicated on 27 July 1656?The superpower were the Dutch traders who could see even without the help of the Dutch-Sandwich that having their politicians throughout the world fight amongst themselves, their great lifestyles would continue on so long as we can still all breath the air.
In the course of the past 58 years, 2 months, and 16 days since Mandela explained how his speech saved his neck during his treason trial at the Supreme Court in Pretoria, South Africa and allowed the Apartheid Regime to kill off all of Mandela’s black and white opposition throughout the globe, there has been a lot of political and economic talk and not much has been accomplished other than the destruction of the earth, lots of animals killed to keep feeding this glutinous human who cannot rationally think.Elon Musk likes the date 4.20 [April 20] as well as 69 for he was born 69 days after 4.20.1971, June 28.Charles who do you think came up with the concept of separation of Church and State before it got spoken about in the Bill of Rights First Amendment to the Constitution ratified on 15 December 1791, not 1971?Slave owner President Jefferson spoke about it, according to Wikipedia:Thomas Jefferson’s correspondence to call for “a wall of separation between church and State”, though the precise boundary of this separation remains in disputeCharles it is difficult to determine really anything concrete other than love in this confusing world that is only confusing because the thing we are most focused on, the money, is something we have never really given much thought to.But that is the past. We can choose to set our egos aside or not – CLICK HERE.BTW, I think there is a much better chance of Elon Musk choosing reason than all the miracles of scripture combined, and if not the world continues as is with everyone waiting for the next person.
Now that is a very boring way to spend the remainder of your life.[Word count 5863]
On Jun 29, 2022, at 7:29 AM, Gordon Torr <gordontorr@gmail.com> wrote:I genuinely don’t know what you’re talking about, Gary.I would be very happy to stay connected but I need some kind of indication of what you expect from me beyond trying to just write as honestly as I can about the stuff that interests me.
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 1:51 AM Gary Gevisser <GaryStevenGevisser@gmail.com> wrote:Revisit “I don’t like your type”.Are you sure you don’t want to join any of my fb group chats-symposiums?What troubled you most about “I don’t like your type”?Do you feel that the evidence in favor of reincarnation is too weak for you to bother?Do you think you would feel worse about yourself if you had studied economics at university rather than psychology-philosophy?Would you feel disappointed or traumatized or indifferent if a Creator does in fact exist and acts accordingly?Do you think it is only right that I keep reminding you that you have consciously decided to avoid responding to “I don’t like your type”?[Word count 112]
On Jun 28, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Gordon Torr from My English Traits <myenglishtraits@substack.com> wrote:
“What you do in this world is a matter of no consequence. The question is what can you make people believe you have done?”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, A Study in Scarlet, 1887
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Original message:From: Gary2 <gary@2facetruth.com>Subject: I really don’t like your type – Re: Boring – Re: The Redistribution of InnocenceDate: June 24, 2022 at 6:44:28 PM PDTTo: Gordon Torr Kill Yourself & Count to 10 Gordon Torr – author <gordontorr@blueyonder.co.uk>Cc: rest; Solly Krok <sollykrok@gmail.com>, Geoffrey Rothwell – immediate past principal economist for the Nuclear Energy Agency-OECD <geoffreyrothwell@yahoo.com>, Megan Ellison – Film producer and only daughter of $60 billionaire Larry Ellison <contact@annapurnainteractive.com>, “Gary Firer [1957- ] – Carmel College Durban South Africa. Now living in Switzerland-Germany” <garyfirer@gmail.com>, “Israel Air Force Lt. Colonel Tomer Tene – Also Israel’s largest organic produce farmer. טנא” <tene@arava.co.il>, Kathy-Louise Gevisser danziger <dkdanz@bigpond.net.au>, Neil Loose Lips Woody Gevisser <neil@rhymedisease.com>, Melvin Gevisser <mgevisser@sbcglobal.net>, “Emma Elliot Gevisser – new wife of Neil Gevisser. Emma is more than half the age younger than her husband. Emma manages the Airbnb listing of Neil’s home in Wiveliscombe that borders the cemetry.” <Emma@EmmaElliott.com>, Ayala Weisel – Israeli lawyer and Guardian of Zena Gevisser Zulman <ayala@ayalalaw.co.il>, “Deborah Sturman Esq – Inspired by Zena Badash-Ash Gevisser Zulman, played pivotal role in collecting billions of $ from remnants of Germany’s military machine during WW II, but stopped way too short when realizing it was so close to the home of the German-South African Oppenheimer clan whose Lloyds of London Insurance have never once attempted to hide that they are the money launderers or money launderers, and figured the common herd would think themselves too smart to have it all smack in their faces.” <info@sturman.ch>, “Feldmana1948@gmail” <Feldmana1948@gmail>,, Israel Prime Minister Bennett <nbennett@knesset.gov.il>, Ernest Rady <erady@americanassets.com>
Gordon, who in your family is responsible for teaching your children history and money?Did you give much thought, and if so how much, to ignoring “When replying, give us your thoughts on ‘Get everyone in the same room – fewer cockups’”.Do you check to see if my punctuation including proper use of English Quotation Signs conforms with proper grammar?How much effort have you put into sharing Professor Edward Jay Epstein’s epic 1978 non-fiction book, The Diamond Invention or does just the mention of the book cause you to implode and feel the need to up Amber Heard’s game?
You are pretentious, dishonest, and please add other adjectives you feel best describe you.You were uncouth before calling me a snob.Who do you blame most for your lack of manners?If you can pin it on your parents, can you still see the “Hand of G DNature” given how there is obviously cause for you being born to your parents, the same applies to their parents going back to the start of the expansion of the universe, all perfectly covered by Spinoza who would have gone head over heels in joy had he been aware of the Double Split Experiment which proves again beyond a shadow of a doubt each of us is being watched 24/7 by a spectacular Higher Energy Reaction [HER].I would suspect that reincarnation doesn’t sit well with you at this time.
Bear in mind, you are no better in my humble, but seasoned opinion, than Amber Heard, “So says the lawyer of the man who convinced the world that he has scissors as fingers”.Will it help you to remember those precise words by counting those 17 odds words, back and forth. Try closing your eyes and if you get it the first time, test it again and see if it sticks; if not, then just right before going to sleep and then first thing when you wake up in the morning.More than me not liking you, you showed clearly your disdain towards me when removing yourself as a fb friend, thus preventing me from adding you to my group chats-symposiums on facebook, before wiping the floor with you.Not to forget you are the expert ad man who got the most coveted marketing-advertising job in the entire world.Global Creative Director of De Beers.I believe you are admitting to having written your profile on Wikipedia.You are proud of it.Your thinking is that it will bring you more readers; that you are a hot shot consultant to the richest and most powerful organization on the planet following their victory in the Anglo “American” Boer War [1899-1902].Your wrong thinking again is that if you keep writing multitude of stuff, at the very least you could plead either plausible deniability and/or insanity; what is your preference?In the meantime, I’m working on putting the finishing touches to my book where you will feature prominently like the rest on my 2facetruth.com $HIT LIST.Nor is the book about you all.It is a very uplifting book that will inspire future generations of children not to give way to hating.BTW, when you got to the line in Kipling’s IF, “And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise” did you think Kipling was talking to you or your hairdresser?The organization, beginning and end, of the book, along with the title and subtitle, have already been put to bed. In fact the first page rough draft has been shared with Errol Musk, and we await his response.Would you like to edit the book?Will it encourage or discourage you from throwing your hat in the ring by me sharing with you what Errol Musk, father of Elon wrote me at 11:55 AM Calif. time on facebook messaging?:While we’re busy saying nice things, Gary, you should definitely write a book because of your extensive true knowledge of the 20th century, even up to now. I’ve ‘read’ a book on the ‘Origins of Mankind’, written by a USA professor, given to me for my birthday. that was lauded as “amazing”. What a load of crap. A matric pupil could have written it! It should be easy (but hard work). You just start from the beginning.If you count with your fingers or just in your head and then check with Apple’s Pages for the most accurate word count, those words which must scare the living daylights out of you, amount to 77 odd.7, according to my super intelligent, super ESP mother Zena, is my lucky number.Bear in mind, that prior to those 77 odd words, Errol Musk had previously written me 2 words, and that was at 9:12 AM.Those 2 words required no response, and so I didn’t respond to them.The 77 odd, are a different story.Beginning at 1:20 PM and continuing until 2:24 PM I responded, ending with:Ask ElonYou are unlikely to have seen my filming of my perfect lady mother Zena in the spring of 1987 in Kensington Park, London, and again lasting all of 50 minutes and 51 seconds which has my mother Zena, ever so momentarily, but seamlessly transitioning to talking, not just politics, but her disdain of her former client, Indira Ghandi’s embrace of nuclear weapons which is what you wouldn’t expect necessarily from the Queen of Charm Schools, and that is because only a very select audience, which includes Errol Musk and South African multibillionaire Solly Krok have seen it.What do you think goes into being a Charm School teacher such as my mother who gets invited all over the world by the world’s richest and most powerful menand women?Do you think it ends with “make sure you check your slip”, and/or “Head up, shoulders back, stomach in, buttocks tightened”?Could you see my highly secretive British-English mother Zena, who was much smarter than all her teachers – CLICK HERE – identifying the most intelligent women in the world to serve as Ambassadors for David Ben Gurion?Imagine my mother’s most trusted Protestant private secretary Elizabeth Downey, moving to Israel and marrying a permanent member of the Israel Defense Force.Yes, none of my 3 grotesque elder siblings are likely to have seen it, or even knew about it, because only my mother, my father Bernie and myself knew this recording ever existed.And if they have, and again, it could only come from the less than a dozen who have been given the Youtube link, it will no less dampen their trauma or heal their broken hearts.A soulless human can never find redemption.What ultimatum, if you were advising mercenary Oppenheimer assassin Eeben Barlow, he present to President Putin to ensure Putin doesn’t dare introduce nuclear weapons on to the battlefield?Like you, after leaving the SADF [South African Defense Force] Barlow grabbed as his first client De Beers-Harry Oppenheimer.Don’t try and place yourself in the same category as me, “I’m as angry as you are”, that there is some sort of kinship.Our only similarity is that our atoms are identical but programmed differently.Your weak brain only has you wishing I was angry.I am at a very peaceful spot and it will not change once I pass on.You are only angry that you got caught; and your fall back position is always to pick up the phone to Nicholas Oppenheimer and say, “I did my very best to distract Gevisser”.So we have established that you went beyond dutiful participant in the brutal Oppenheimer’s Apartheid Regime militia where Eeben Barlow perfected his skills of murder on innocent victims, puppet Mandela’s staunchest opponents, while leaving the likes of you, who never went very deep in exposing torture camp Greefswald-Dr. Aubrey Levine MD because that would have got too close to home with the Oppenheimers who were obviously in charge of every aspect of the South African economy, if you had only a modicum of common sense needed to buy say a home in England.Im also not going to ask you either how to build a watch.With your qualifications, who do you think was, note past, no present, best suited to talk sense to President Putin before he ordered the very carefully orchestrated invasion of Ukraine to soften the ground for vetted real estate developers such as Jared Kushner?Do you think Trump is kicking himself for getting all caught up in the aftermath of the election being stolen?You know that all elections are stolen when the mineral monopolist De Beers-SA Oppenheimers-Deutsche Bank-IG Farben-Monsanto also price the currencies, including crypto currencies.So what went wrong with the Trump campaign? Who would you say is the rat?Faucci looks like a rat, and that might be giving him too much credit; rats are quite intelligent?GaryPS – Don’t forget all the thought that went into you deciding to call me a snob because I lunched at Roydonswhile you were already fully into alcohol, not so? Were either of your parents alcoholics and were they rough on you? How much alcohol do you consume on a regular basis and would you consider yourself an alcoholic?I really don’t like your type.[Word count 1564]
On Jun 24, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Gordon Torr <gordontorr@gmail.com> wrote:Hey Gary.The reason I’m writing this thing at all is because I’m more than a little ashamed of my historical ignorance. Hence the confession of the subtitle.At the time I didn’t know more about the Oppenheimers than anyone else did. It was a great job & I took it. I tried to address some of that legacy stuff in my chapters about Rhodes & the Boer War. But I’m not a historian. I can only skim the surface of the stuff that I inherited as conventional wisdom. I’d love to be able to have the knowledge, the time & the resources to dig deeper. And what is there to say about the Oppenheimers that isn’t in the public domain already? I didn’t get any special insight into the operation. I sat in meetings & made ads for diamonds. What do you want me to be writing about that isn’t as boring as you’re finding it? In general.There are also so many other historical & personal issues that I’m trying to get some kind of fix on. Should I, for example, be more ashamed of working on the De Beers business than carrying a rifle for the SADF, or working in the newsroom of the SABC at the height of its propaganda campaign to persuade the world that apartheid was fair, justifiable and necessary? Never mind all the personal family stuff that’s wrapped up impenetrable layers of British colonial & apartheid history. Never mind Estcourt High School. Where do I start? Where do I stop?I’m as angry as you are. I just don’t have any answers.Gordon
First message response to The Redistribution of Innocence:From: Gary Gevisser <GaryStevenGevisser@gmail.com>Subject: Boring – Re: The Redistribution of InnocenceDate: June 23, 2022 at 7:00:52 PM PDTTo: Gordon Torr from My English Traits <reply+1077c0&1928mp&&c4dbc9e62ce9ba7afffec4e684940e5c5f67910bda261a0a5de8805418286cca@mg1.substack.com>Cc: rest; Megan Ellison – Film producer and only daughter of $60 billionaire Larry Ellison <contact@annapurnainteractive.com>, Michael Tordu Awerbuch <michael@asasin.biz>, Alan Mark Zeligson <bigvan82@gmail.com>, “David Altman – Founder of Made In USA Inc.” <david.altman@email.it>, Martin Moshal Mike Behr – Daily Mail journalist investigating Internet Gambling King <mikebehr@mweb.co.za>, “- FRONTLINE-PBS SPECIAL United States of Secrets. Isikoff mentioned in Daniel Ammann’s King of Oil: The Secret Lives of Marc Rich Michael Isikoff – Chief Investigative Correspondent at Yahoo! News – Chief Investigative Correspondent at Yahoo! News” <misikoff@oath.com>,Tony Leon – Fomer head of the South African Oppostion Party to the current ANC regime. Now the ANC South African Ambassador to Argentinia. Tony wrote praising obituaries for both Harry Oppenheimer [1908-2000] and David Gevisser [1926-2009]” <southafrica@bigmedia.co.za>
Boring.Why didn’t you tell us when you were skirting the question of what you knew about the Oppenheimers that you were in charge of the De Beers account at JWT?De Beers stand so prominent in your Wikipedia profile:Biography[edit]Educated in Natal, South Africa, Torr covered the 1976 Soweto Riots as a journalist for the SABC, taught at St Joseph’s Minor Seminary in Lesotho, and was employed as a copywriter by Grey Advertising & Marketing in 1980. Torr joined the Johannesburg office of JWT in 1985. He spent three years as Creative Director of JWT Mexico, based in Mexico City, before transferring to London as Global Creative Director of De Beers and, subsequently, of Diageo, Kellogg’s and Vodafone. He was appointed Chair of the Worldwide Creative Council of JWT in 2003.Torr lives in the UK with his family and is currently writing several books.Did you provide the Biography?When did you first hear of Eeben Barlow of Executive Outcomes?When replying, give us your thoughts on “Get everyone in the same room – fewer cockups”.[Word count 178]On Jun 23, 2022, at 4:27 PM, Gordon Torr from My English Traits <myenglishtraits@substack.com> wrote:
Jules: [while cleaning the bloodied car] Oh man, I will never forgive your ass for this shit…
Vincent: Jules, did you ever hear the philosophy that once a man admits that he is wrong, that he is immediately forgiven for all wrongdoings? Have you ever heard that?
Pulp Fiction, 1994
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