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Rian Geldenhuys

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In 1902 land ownership in SA was:

Black people 7%

British lords 93%

Boers 0% (all their land was confiscated during the war)

Over several decades after 1913,  Afrikaner Boers BOUGHT land (mostly dry land nobody else wanted) from the British lords. They were forbidden from buying in the fertile tribal areas by the Land Act. They found ways to farm, digging canals by hand, and paid off the bonds over 20 to 30 years.

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  • Winnie Smith
    Thank you for sharing this!shows you and they keep saying the land was stolen from them what they want is freebies were they can sit on their buts and do nothing

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    • Malohle Mampane
      Winnie Smith Go on and share the hell out of it. I’m sure you don’t even care whether it’s true or not.
      I’m still yet to hear anyone dispute what is written in this book, which is a complete opposite of what is posted here. 

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    • Malohle Mampane
      Winnie Smith did you get a stroke before you could finish your reply to my comment?
      I see you only tagged my name. Like


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    • Schalk Burger
      Malohle Mampane I don’t understand your issue. The blacks have ample land and the Afrikaners didn’t steal your land. Even if the Afrikaners have to return land, the Gauteng area would be returned to the Tswana, not the Zulu, Xhosa or any other tribe. As a general rule, i think the Tswanas are generally more peaceful than the rest, so the Boers probably wouldn’t mind them. Like


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    • Malohle Mampane
      Schalk Burger what are you responding to with this comment? Like


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    • Schalk Burger
      Malohle Mampane i just don’t see what you are doing in this thread. It not your war, wasn’t your war, and there was no sin against you? Yet you are trying to force your narrative in here. Like


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    • Malohle Mampane
      Schalk Burger Do you understand the thing called history? Don’t you know that some people have passion for history of all nations? That fact can’t be difficult to fathom. Like


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    • Winnie Smith
      Malohle Mampane I feel it’s not worth going into it you believe what you want I believe what I want AND NO I DIDN’T HAVE A STROKE Like


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    • Malohle Mampane
      Winnie Smith Yep. Go on and believe any drivel you want, it seems to be your preference unsurprisingly. There’s absolutely no hope of you ever believing facts that can be backed up with references. Like


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  • Ferris Jenvey
    I like this post!

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    • Malohle Mampane
      Ferris Jenvey fake news. There was actually a doctoral thesis I once read about how the Afrikaners received reparations after the war. Which was contrary to the common practice where the vanquished ( like Germany at the treaty of Versailles) were made to pay way reparations to the victor. 

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    • Schalk Burger
      Malohle Mampane you’re s real hater!!!! The Germans initiated the war by colonizing the countries around them.
      In the case of the Afrikaners, they were the Victims of British colonization.
      The British came with very unethical solution to murder and conquer the Afrikaners. For instance murdering their woman and children, as well as burning down their farms.
      The Afrikaners also had to privately fund their own war-effort and many must have been going bankrupt especially after the British burned their crops and slaughtered their cattle.
      What price is high enough to pay for your dead family?? Like


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    • Malohle Mampane
      Schalk Burger what does this have to do with the article I posted? Where in the article do you see my personal opinion that convinced you I’m a hater? Like


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    • Active      Rian Geldenhuys
      Malohle Mampane simple – you equate the Boers with Nazis – meaning you are a hater. Sies. Like


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    • Malohle Mampane
      Rian Geldenhuys another one. Were the Nazis in existence at the time of the Treaty of Versailles? Me mentioning the German Empire and the subsequent Weimer Republic was by way of an example of how the Afrikaners were treated in comparison to other vanquished nations like the German Empire which was on the contrary made to pay Britain. I really didn’t think that such would be difficult to understand by any barely literate individual. Seemingly I was wrong. Like


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    • Active      Rian Geldenhuys
      Malohle Mampane Britain was roundly condemned for what they did to the Boers. They initiated the war and invaded. INVADERS that burn down farms and houses must pay reparations. In fact courts were set up to determine exactly who damaged what during the war. To get reparations one had to jump through many hoops. Boers had ZERO land ownership. British owned the land. Plus you seem to think the BITTERENDERS were “vanquished”. They were not. They were still fighting when the “Vrede van Vereniging” was negotiated. A bilateral peace treaty was signed. Your hatred of Boers and love of British cloud your judgement. Like


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  • Glenda Kruger
    Thank you for the information. Like


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  • Cobus Smith
    They don’t understand it. They don’t believe in facts. They believe themselves.

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    • Malohle Mampane
      Johny Basterd You guys are so funny. Am I right in thinking there’ll probably be no need to research this further? Eureka, a guy on Facebook typed up stuff from his head with no effort to furnish references and it’s the gospel truth you have been looking for all along? 

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    • Active      Johny Basterd
      Malohle Mampane I knew about the British before hand and I knew they had by far most of the land…. And what do you know..? Fake propaganda by the Anc?? Like


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    • Malohle Mampane
      Johny Basterd Shame man I’m sure that’s the furthest your brain can propel you (the hurling of insults). That you refer to this drivel as ‘information’ speaks volumes about your brain capacity. Here is the Treaty of Vereeniging. Have a look. Not sure if you’ll comprehend it though. 

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    • Active      Johny Basterd
      Malohle Mampane so??? I know about the payment, all belonged to the British… Nothing about land there…… Like


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    • Malohle Mampane
      Johny Basterd You mean you can’t actually read? Wow I said it tongue in cheek when I said you might not be able to comprehend the document. I didn’t think you’ll prove me right. Let me mark it for you. 

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    • Active      Johny Basterd
      Malohle Mampane you all about my thinking ability…… Offcause the boers had land but they paid for it from the British… Nothing was just given for mahala…. That idea that the boers came and just took land is one big lie 

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    • Malohle Mampane
      Johny Basterd They bought it from the British that gave them £3 000 000 in aid for reconstruction? Do you really believe what you just said? Can I see your references? Like


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  • Schalk Burger
    Waar kry jy daardie info? Also? Are you talking about the Freestate, Transvaal or Capetown? Like


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  • Themba Mdlalose
    This post is obviously not true. Does the author want us to believe that Afrikaners owned no land in the Boer republics?????

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    • Daniel Le-Khosi Koka
      Rian Geldenhuys what happened after the Boers won the war. When they went to war they took blacks with them promised them land after the war with British what Happened? Like


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    • Frederik Burgers
      Daniel Le-Khosi Koka Boers lost… Lost every thing! That is Why some immigrated to Argentina, and one off the fundamental reasons for the Rebellion. Few realize the the GRA (GENOODSKAP vir die regte Afrikaner) was foundend in the same year as the ANC, why would that be? Same oppressor, maybe? And yet we CHOOSE to honor them in conversing in their language, strange.

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    • Themba Mdlalose
      Rian Geldenhuys After post war peace was signed Boers went back to their vast farms . Their only problem was livestock. It is Africans who had no land but livestock. They became sharecroppers on Boer farms. The 1913 land Act helped to dispossess Africans of their live stock. Blacks were told they were no longer welcome on white farms but they did not know where they were allowed to go. So they became wonderers with Boers following them on horseback not allowing them even to rest or bury their dead. They ended up offering their livestock almost for free to the Boers.Sol Plaatjie was an eye witness and wrote a book about it. He was the first secretary general of the ANC.

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    • Schalk Burger
      Rian Geldenhuys why? Like


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    • Schalk Burger
      Themba Mdlalose Before the war the Boers also had to buy their land with bank loans. It make sense that they went bankrupt during the war, as thy couldn’t buy the installments and then British Lords picked up the land for cheap.
      Regarding the share-cropping. It sounds terrible and I’ll definitely read up on it, but then again, the blacks did spy on the Boers on behalf of the British and as far as i know it was the British who promised the Blacks land, not the other way around.

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  • Emmanuel Tong
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    And I agree because of what I have as a local Investigation Activist .. Rian Geldenhuys I love you .. that’s why you and I we are chosen . Power most people don’t no about this

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    • Emmanuel Tong
      Malohle MampaneHell yourself I know my right … U don’t do the right thing there after u think we follow you say moer . I flow with the right channel Civil and Civic Movement , Gaan Poe’s yourself , because you don’t no yourself Like


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    • Malohle Mampane
      Emmanuel Tong OMG. It’s getting worse and worse. 

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  • Active    Michael Bain
    Explain how the native lands act of 1913 which limit Black African ownership to 7% and displaced people worked, if in 1912 it was already 7%?

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    • Active      Rian Geldenhuys
      It was aimed at stopping black chiefs from selling to White people. The gvt was worried they would end up with nothing

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    • Active      Michael Bain
      https://www.gov.za/issues/land-reform
      The 1913 Natives Land Act saw thousands of black families forcibly removed from their land by the apartheid government.Yes I know this is pre-apartheid – but if they are misreporting history they should be taken to task 

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    • Active      Rian Geldenhuys
      Michael Bain that is true. Squatters who settled on destroyed farms during the war were forcibly removed from Free State farms. It was quite sad. Sol Plaatjie wrote about it.

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    • Active      Michael Bain
      Michael Bain the act did not ‘limit’ black ownership. That is a mythIt seems pretty well documented that land ownership was restricted by race Like


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    • Active      Rian Geldenhuys
      Michael Bain land transactions between races were restricted. Black areas were reserved to stop White people from buying all the land.
      I don’t like the act because it is racist. But it limited White expansion Like


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    • Active      Michael Bain
      WRONG – quoting from the act
      1.(1) From and after the commence of this Act, land outside the scheduled native areas shall, until Parliament, acting upon the report of the commission appointed under this Act, shall have made other provision, be subject to the following provisions, that is to say:-Except with the approval of the Governor General -(a) A native shall not enter into any agreement/or transaction for the purchase, hire, or other acquisition from a person other than a native, of any such land or of any right thereto, interest therein, or servitude thereover: and(b) A person other than a native shall not enter into any agreement or transaction for the purchase, hire or any other acquisition from a native of any such land or of any right thereto, interest therein, or servitude thereover.

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    • Active      Rian Geldenhuys
      Michael Bain what is ‘WRONG’? Like


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    • Emmanuel Tong
      I agree with Rian . And some information people don’t no .. force removal was made for the sake of traditional affairs bill operation

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    • Active      Michael Bain
      A native shall not enter into any agreement/or transaction for the purchase, hire, or other acquisition from a person other than a native”the act did not ‘limit’ black ownership.”These two statements are mutually exclusive 

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    • Active      Rian Geldenhuys
      (b) is what it was all about. Stop people ‘other than a Native’ from buying Native land. In practice black people bought more land.
      1912 7%
      1936 13%
      They bought from gvt

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    • Active      Michael Bain
      It says there in black and white, without approval of the governer – may not purchase land from anyone other than a native.That ownership increased was incidental to the act limiting ownership rights based on race, it was still limited Like


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    • Active      Rian Geldenhuys
      But it doesn’t make the whole thing any less racist. Before 1913 Boers and Natives farmed together

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    • Active      Rian Geldenhuys
      Until 1913 what happened in practice is that White ppl bought big pieces of land far from mines. Black people used that money to buy small stands near mines

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    • Schalk Burger
      Rian Geldenhuys it wasn’t sad, it was opportunistic. Like


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    • Schalk Burger
      Michael Bain I don’t know the fact as well as Rian Geldenhuys, but on the otherhand: why was the blacks in the ZAR? Because their economical and sexual culture built up pressure in the bantustans.
      Also: South Africa was never one country and the Afrikaners were victims of colonialism, not perpetrators, so on what basis were they not allowed to limit black ownership of land in their one and only country? Like


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    • Thamsanqa Manceda
      Rian Geldenhuys these are lies 

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    • Schalk Burger
      Thamsanqa Manceda I don’t understand your issue. South Africa was never a united a-racial country. The blacks had the main responsibility to educate the African children, not the whites, as the whites were struggling to educate their own children. The empoverishment of Africans were also happening to Afrikaners before the Angloboer war, with much the same dinamic as black empowerishment. Like


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    • Schalk Burger
      Thamsanqa Manceda and in any case, after the 40’s the Afrikaners spent millions on black education, but the result is still the same. Like


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    • Thamsanqa Manceda
      Schalk Burger
      We dont care about it, your race benefited from that education, they needed blacks to learn a bit so that they give them whatever shitty position they thought was good enough for their survival.
      So please stop acting like you guys are mad here. You guys know facts and know very well what we have went through. Did we deserve to be beaten for not carrying a fucking pass?

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  • Active    Gary Gevisser
    Why is it that people ignore that in war the land and the minerals beneath are grabbed without payment and yet what then takes place such as payment using either government monies issued by the winners or the minerals previously stolen using the pointed barrel of a gun become gospel and spoken about incessantly?I’m not talking morals here, only common sense logic.Let’s no forget that when all hell breaks loose what is previously bought or won in battle comes down to the next war-battle.Do you think it is all poor schooling or stupidity or a combination of both?

    Let me ask some of my other Facebook friends what they think and maybe this will go viral before the earth runs out out oxygen.

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      Judy Edelstein, a better way of expressing it is, “I agree with you.”Only an insane or corrupt person would disagree with my observation which should have everyone recognizing how extraordinarily easily they have been fooled and to do the logical next step and question all those silent as well as those who talk up a storm of how good, how intelligent they are.With the power of the light speed Internet we could end this mass psychosis in the next instant other than ugly, mean people have big egos and would rather die than let go of their ego. 

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      Judy Edelstein if you are choosing your words so carefully, how come you didn’t say I wish I had the common sense to figure out these most important facts of life that have escaped all the philosophers, economists, industrialists, philanthropists, politicians etc.Ego right? Like


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      I would like to make note of the following.Judy Edelstein who I tagged alongside 8 other fb friends has removed all her comments starting with the first at 9:22 AM Calif time, “i have to agree w you”.This had me responding immediately; “Judy Edelstein, a better way of expressing it is, ‘I agree with you” … 

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      At 9:37 AM, Judy Edelstein responded, “Gary Gevisser, please don’t choose my words for me. They are chosen w much care to express what I wish to say, not what you wish me to say”. Like


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    • Schalk Burger
      Gary Gevisser i think she blocked you. Like


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    • Schalk Burger
      Judy Edelstein what do you mean? Like


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    • Active      Gary Gevisser
      Schalk Burger, it is now 2:05 PM Calif. time, and if you are in South Africa which is most likely, it is 12:05 AM Tuesday, 18 January 2022.

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      9 odd minutes have now elapsed since I made everyone aware of the time in California as well as South Africa which had Mr. Schalk Burger responding with a “thumbs up” without saying what else is keeping him awake at this hour, assuming he is in South Africa.Also during this passage of time which can never be made up, more people will have seen what got Judy Epstein’s attention.No less important, unless we can read her mind, is that Schalk Burger’s question, “Judy Edelstein what do you mean?” could have triggered her desire to wipe the slate clean.Mr. Burger, let me ask you, are you able to see on your computer screen Ms. Edelstein’s comments?

       

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    • Schalk Burger
      Gary Gevisser yes. I can see her responses Like


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    • Schalk Burger
      Gary Gevisser but also…it is over my bed time so i have to sleep now. Like


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      Schalk Burger are you saying that this Judy Edelstein is still active on facebook, only that she has managed to block me from seeing her two responses? Like


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      Gary Gevisser she is not active but she did block you, yes. Like


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  • David Douglas
    They earned it Like


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  • Jeffrey Zikhali
    Have been in the West Coast and saw how Afrikaans farmers are changing a semi desert into a garden.Have friends in Vredendal who told me wonderful stories of the canal that was built over 300 years ago and is still a lifeline.”Any nation that can change a semi desert into a garden, is surely blessed by God” ~ Jeffrey Zikhali

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  • Malohle Mampane
    The Treaty of Vereeniging is pictured below. On top of the Afrikaaners retaining their land, they were paid £3 000 000 in reparations by Britain. Stop believing anything that shows up on Facebook. Much of it is absolutely rubbish. 

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    • Schalk Burger
      Malohle Mampane so what is your issue? Technically the Vrede van Vereniging has nothing to do with you? Like


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    • Malohle Mampane
      Schalk Burger another one. What are you saying? That the Iran-Iraq War didn’t concern me means I’m precluded to enter in to discussions about it? Are historians supposed to study only the history that affects them directly? I wonder why we were convinced that white people received superior education in apartheid years if this is its products. Like


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    • Schalk Burger
      Malohle Mampane yes you are precluded in a discussion about it if you try to push a false narrative for your own personal gain Like


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    • Malohle Mampane
      Schalk Burger what is false about the document ( The treaty)I posted? The only person who posted falsehood here is the creator of this thread. Are you unable to comprehend even that simple and straightforward fact? Like


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    • Schalk Burger
      Malohle Mampane there is nothing false about it, but
      1) it has nothing to do with you.
      2) and 2 i get the idea you are desperately wanting to use the Sterling 3 mill as proof of some kind of Afrikaner privilege.

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    • Malohle Mampane
      Schalk Burger I read history of all nations of the world. And I’ll continue to do so. Whether you like it or not is something that doesn’t concern me, it concerns only you. Still shocked at what I saw tonight. I’ve met dumb people before but you have just been a totally new revelation to me. Like


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      Malohle Mampane not a broblem. Then go well then. Like


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    Rian Geldenhuys, are you removing my posts as I provide a backup of what Judy Edelstein has removed, in order to confuse the reader? Like


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    Rian and everyone else watching this board, and let’s not forget the others who I initially tagged, this conversation I consider of great importance, as distressing as it is for those with a big ego.I have now made a backup of this wall and will repost it on my fb wall as well as elsewhere including my BLOG on 2facetruth.com. 

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  • Active    Gary Gevisser
    Rian Geldenhuys, I see now that my posts following Judy Edelstein removing her responses, have now mysteriously reappeared.That is good. Like


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  • Active    Gary Gevisser
    It is now 1:16 PM Calif. time, 17 January 2022.I will shortly be providing more commentary. Like


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    While we wait for Schalk Burger to respond to my earlier question,”are you saying that this Judy Edelstein is still active on facebook, only that she has managed to block me from seeing her two responses?” just 5 odd minutes ago, and it is now 12:30 AM in South Africa and Schalk might be already asleep, we should pause and analyze what is going on. Like


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    Everyone here who has commented along with those just playing voyeur hoping to get more information-knowledge without revealing who they are, knows that what caused this Judy Epstein who I believe is from Montreal, Quebec, Canada, at least that is what I remember seeing in her fb profile before she hit the block, to go “ape shit” is what bothers everyone.A chicken with its head cut off can still move around until all its nerve endings finish their decomposing.Us humans are decomposing from the very beginning, and as our bodies atrophy we think that we are getting smarter with age when in fact it is clearly quite the opposite.You are all only finding out in the past few hours that all trade comes down to weapon systems.

    Who is in control of the weapons changes all the time because people die, get sick, and they are replaced by others who also can think for themselves even if they have to follow orders and execute the orders they don’t agree with.

     

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    The fact that no one here has commented on what it means to them personally that they have got everything wrong about the conflicts throughout the globe, starting with those in South Africa is not insurmountable, but you do have to deal with your ego which is harder to control when you have committed yourself to a certain narrative that is totally wrong. Like


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    How can you possibly explain to yourself that you never figured that those who profit from war on militarily weaker peoples to steal the land and the minerals wouldn’t insulate themselves by pushing an educational curriculum that fails to encourage questioning? Like


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    It is now 2:42 PM California time and I will write as if Ms. Judy Epstein is still watching like the rest of you.Moreover, those of you who need to sleep, should get their sleep in, but that doesn’t mean they should assume that my audience here is getting smaller. Like


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    Title: ChildrenJudy Edelstein, it would have been better, much better if instead of “blocking” me, removing your two responses, as well as unfriending me, that you had simply taken a deep breath.Best of course would have been to express yourself clearly why you felt so strongly, “i have to agree w you”, although as I pointed out, you could simply have said, “I agree with you” followed by, “I am quite literally shocked out of my mind that I had never thought about all this trading in real estate being a bunch of hogwash and no less comforting that it is the entire, global, human population, from the poorest to the richest who have got it all wrong; and so why not convene a meeting of everyone including all the clergy to figure a way out of this mass psychosis that makes us so ugly and mean!”.Again, you could simply have taken a deep breath awaiting this follow up.

    More than 5 hours havepassed since my earlier response, “…Ego right?” at 9:40 AM Calif. time.

    Before I began speaking again at 12:57 PM, “I would like to make note of the following …”, that more than 3 hour time gap must have seemed like a lifetime for Ms. Judy Edelstein and everyone else watching.

    Mark Zuckerberg, unless he has had a stroke, would be paying attention, as would fellow South African, Elon Musk, given my previous, time prescient writings on social media which didn’t emerge from the vacuum of empty space.

    There is cause and effect for everything.

    Just as important we know there is no such thing as empty space, only space that we cannot see with our limited eyesight, and our scientific instruments also have limitations, and nor do all of them such as radiation therapy do the body always good, because they mostly do great harm.

    Medical doctors even in a best case scenario only extend life a few years; and the big question is what are we doing here; and second, why are we doing so much harm when we have the clear option of doing everything right?

    Doing the smart thing and getting the initial education about wars right, which would mean identifying all those who profit the most from the wars which is not the poor of the world, can only result in good for the planet and the overwhelming majority of its inhabitants including the other animals and all sealife; not just the politicians whose job is to instill fear, distrust and to leave it to them to administer war, drugs, justice and the monies.

    Really, how much good has the human done since it’s arrival?

    Logic must apply at all times, even if it turns out that all humans are the most illogical specie to have ever been created, and prefer the path of self-destruction rather than tend to their unhealthy, oversized egos.

    No other specie has intentionally killed itself off in pursuit of money.

    And while it fixates on buying and selling perfect grammar applications in order to get the best speaking job, to top off this insanity money at-all-cost pursuit, most all of them don’t know the first thing about the money because they are totally ignorant of war.

    How can you explain everyone never thinking that the money was dictated by success or failure on the battlefield?

     

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    Page 2 – ChildrenCan you imagine a 12 year old who is still playing with toy soldiers getting it wrong?What about an adult playing Monopoly. Didn’t it occur to them that this board game is all part of the indoctrination, not to question logically?Wouldn’t it make sense to promote successful real estate developers as the epitome, the crown jewel of the capitalist system victory over socialism and communism?

    If you notice, my former long time client, multi-billionaire Solly Krok with whom I share 221 odd facebook friends, has not untagged himself, or for that matter unfriended me.

    When he first hired me back in 1989, he knew that I was not a fool just because I was articulate and only spoke when I had something important to say.

    He was 60 years of age at the time, one of the most visible, if not the most visible South African on the international scene.

    I was 32 at the time, and more than capable of picking up the phone to any Captain of Industry without having to talk much to their personal assistant.

    Schalk Burger, I see that you haven’t gone to sleep. Let me read what you have just this moment commented.

     

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    Children – P3Schalk Burger, I see that 3 minutes ago you wrote, “Gary Gevisser she is not active but she did block you, yes.”Let me then ask you, are you able to messenger her and to ask why she is so bothered by the truth? 

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    Children – P4Today, Solly Krok is going on 93 and Im going on 65; and more importantly, I am no less healthy than I was at age 32 when I was in pretty good physical shape, as it has been more than a decade since Ive been vegan and for more than a decade before that I was vegetarian until discovering that dairy-liquified meat-cheese-milk was worse than than poison meat.Maybe if we teach the children to replace the word “meat” with “flesh” they will turn out much smarter.Now imagine how much smarter Solly Krok would be today if he turned vegan when in his mid-50s, better yet if he had never once digested flesh.

    The fact that 2500 years ago the first and greatest mathematician-philosopher, Pythagoras who discovered the Right Angle Triangle Theorem, warned us that the killing of other animals would lead to the death of humanity doesn’t mean that he was wrong, and therefore we should ignore everything he had to say.

    Instead being a rational specie we should learn from our mistakes and simply improve the educational system beginning with the curriculum that makes us all so stupid which leads to resentment, ugliness and meanness of the highest order.

    If we can’t accomplish that then we must consider that us humans are not in control, period.

     

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    Children – P5Let me be equally clear on the importance of not being able to predict, either perfect nature or coincidences of perfect nature which should not only have us all humble, but on the same page to fix logically the problems of the world, versus relying on people whose job is to create problems and point fingers away from themselves.Another humbling experience should be of how impossible it is to predict the original Big Bang some 13.8 billion years ago; and from this impossible chaos to comprehend comes the emergence of mathematics to lend itself to the study of physics, and all the rest of this exquisite order we see all around us; and it is pleasing to the eyes and our inner soul that we can make sense of it because we are supposedly a conscious animal, eager to make rational choices.But we go for ugliness and mean; our biggest kicks when the ugliness-meanness is directed at the good sharing important knowledge.

    So of course you have to ask yourself whether people like Boris Johnson, Macron, Merkle etc and their predecessors as well as successors, are either totally stupid or the greatest actors as they each feign they are representing the best interests of their constituents.

    Everyone knows that Hollywood is systemically corrupt as the actors have to bend over from their first audition, but at their ceremonies they dress up on monkey suits and heap words of praise toward one another and their prose is no less convincing, all because they are money rich and you haven’t questioned previously who dishes out the money?

    Money indicates to you credibility, and you would expect how you feel towards people rich as part of the initial planning, along with pushing patriotism along with disliking people who are different to you in their looks, language, culture, especially if they are poorer and have nowhere to run from the dictators we place in charge of their exodus towards refugee status.

     

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    Children – P6It would make sense that I would choose the study of economics, have to purchase expensive and heavy text books, not always great for the posture, and knowing that contained within was total crap from start to finish, given my background, heaped in the knowledge of the very little known to the masses outside of South Africa, German-South African Oppenheimer family whose patriarch, Harry Oppenheimer was my first client after graduating from the University of Natal-Kwazulu where I wasn’t the dumbest economics student, far from it, even though I knew from the very first moment I opened the economics text book at the first lecture of Economics I, it was going to take monumental concentration in order to listen to the rubbish coming out of the lecturer’s mouth; and fully aware that this would go on for another 3 years.BTW, that first lecture took place in early 1975, having matriculated from high school just months before, and still 17 when many of my classmates, who didn’t make it to university, were in basic training before participating in the SA Oppenheimers’ orchestrated, most bloody 27 odd year Angolan War which ended in 2002, before the founding of both TESLA and Facebook.Why is that important?

    When you wage war on the people you have a plan such as commerce when it ends.

    Perhaps I should explain the above with less words, “… plan … when it ends.”

    Logically thinking, you would expect the plan to bring in also war-propagandists, masked as peace and justice advocates who argue, “All men are created equal …” that in turn breeds debaters on both sides of the argument.

    But amazingly, impossible to predict amongst all the talkers, all is quiet when it comes to the SA Oppenheimers who continue to gauge the behavior of their subjects, and they remain pleased.

    How do you explain why it is that over the course of more than 17 odd years since breaking my 24 year deafening silence with the SA Oppenheimers, not a single person has been willing to confront the SA Oppenheimers who are most prominent in Professor Edward Jay Epstein’s epic 1978 non-fiction book, The Diamond Invention

    https://edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/prologue.htm

    which is free on The Internet – just click on the link above, start reading, and welcome to the real “Dog Eat A Dog” [DEAD] world.

     

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    Children – P7So please don’t direct your anger towards me unless your goal is to please the SA Oppenheimers and their shills.Let me give you very quickly my pertinent background; namely, my decision to wait 24 years once leaving the inner sanctums of SA Oppenheimers-De Beers-Bank of England is because I could predict the behavior of the people when going one-on-one and talking to small groups of people who would be more likely to stab me in the back than if I was able to reach that many more who wouldn’t want to be the last one to hear the truth.The previous paragraph matches the succinct manner I turned upside down the world of every financially rich as well as educated person in my writings earlier.

    Moreover, each of the minuscule number of people who were most likely the first to read, “Why is it … ego” that was followed by Einstein’s ingenious assessment of the little knowledge-imagination human, have the ability to start a chain reaction, were it not for your egos.

    What if you could get spectacularly rich organizing a worldwide gathering and also know that you are doing the right thing?

    Probably not, because your ego is simply too big and you would prefer to stand on the sidelines acting disinterested, not expecting anyone to move.

    We are experiencing a lack of rational thinking which people like Albert Einstein and Afrikaner Jan Christiaan Smuts and their friend, Mossad head, first Prime Minister of Israel, David Ben Gurion would have likely predicted, but it is unlikely they would have conceived of The Internet.

    So imagine if Albert Einstein were still alive today and as sharp as he ever was, would you listen to him?

    Would it matter to you if he was not the richest person in the world?

    Of course not.

    Let me then ask each of you, is there someone out there who you respect so much that you would like to hear them debate me?

    Yes, the human is clearly the Alien Invader (AI) of this amazing space capsule Mother Earth which most recent modern man has destroyed at an exponential rate over the past 3 decades, and it all beginning at the turn of the last century when sensitive women took to the streets of Trafalgar Square, London protesting the British vulgarity, imprisoning and starving to death in concentration camps Afrikaner-Boer women and children as well as tens of thousands of native, black South Africans who had thrown in their lot with the Boers, many of whom turned to their Bible, “hewers of wood and drawers of water” as justification for the theft of their darker skinned relatives’ ancestral lands which had no border fences.

    That is not to suggest the indigenous peoples weren’t mean or didn’t fight amongst each other before their white relatives returned with only 2 things; a gun; and second, less pigmentation in their skin having traveled north away from the equator in search of greener pastures.

    Rather my point being that the returning whites were barbaric hypocrites to suggest that they would now be civilizing their former close relative “children”.

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Olive LG couldn’t you think of a better question considering the knowledge you have learned about the drilling industry that you protest on your wall, and knowing you have missed the mark entirely with Shell Oil?

A more than very smart woman who also happens to be the most beautiful woman I have ever met, and I was surrounded from birth by the most beautiful woman in the world, explains, “People with little intelligence, have great difficulty feeling stupid!”.

If you would like to share your email with me, I will forward you the email I sent moments ago to an official at my Alma Mater, University of Kwazulu-Natal, titled, “Full of order” and copied in the cc and blind copied section is a statistically valid sampling of the world’s literate population.

Thank you for contributing.

 

    • Gary Gevisser
      Olive LG repeat, Friday, January 20, 11:53 AM.I didnt read that.Did I read that?

      Sometimes I forget.

      I wont read it again though, just in case.

      Plausible deniability, don’t they use that a lot. It must be the popular word and gone up exponentially over the past few years.

      And I’m an intellectual midget, I’m, I’m.

      Not to lose the thread, and its worth studying the Love That Pink – Revlon Make Up Job cartoon of 1 October 1999 and its consequences to this very hour, 10:48 PM Calif. time, 22 January 2022, 22 years, 3 months and 21 days ago:

      Tania Steyn
      Sharon Fleischmann – my goodness. Is this man in an Institution?

      Thursday, 20 January – 12:59 AM

      Olive LG
      Tania Steyn or needs to be institutionalized. Seems he misses the concept of engagement. Nobody really reads monologues

      Thursday, 20 January – 7:55 AM

      Gary Gevisser
      Tania Steyn how many times have we heard this one when they have no brain power, intellectual midgets?

      We are not interested in dating you or your bathroom routine or making money out of you, selling you something.

      Thursday, 20 January – 4:59 AM

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      Olive LG what do you talk about anyway?
      It is not like you have an original thought.

      Thursday, 20 January – 5:02 PM

      Gary Gevisser
      I didnt read that. Did I read that? Sometimes I forget. I wont read it again though, just in case. Plausible deniability, don’t they use that a lot. It must be the popular word and gone up exponentially over the past few years.

      Friday, January 20, 11:53 AM.

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Gary Gevisser such verbosity! Remember King Solomon, who said “the conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard is : Fear the true God and keep his commandments.”
(Ecclesiastes 12:13).
Simple.

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    What is being discussed in this post is… the consequences of lying, aggession, fear, greed, cruelty, betrayal and every other sin under the sun.
    Trying to justify it, deny it, hide it and prolong it and continue doing it ad infinitum.

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    Oh just blame it on seperate development. Like they try to blame every thing else.

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      Radebe Timothy Nhlanhla oh so dingane is a liar. But never mindnthat. You can not oun land (neither can I) thenland belongs to the planet Earth and when you and all your people (and me and mine )are long dead and forgoten the land will still belong to planet Earth like it or not

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    Do you want to continue blaming each other, hating each other, pointing fingers at each other, wrestling each other in the mire… and God forbid, even killing each other?
    OR.. do you want to understand what happened in the past, and how it can inform us and lead us all to a better life?
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    • Sharon Fleischmann
      Gary Gevisser I no longer dabble in this lunacy! People need to get Educated about their Roots, and Move On!!! Blacks and Whites were Colonizers. Khoi-San were the Indigenous people of South Africa. I won’t argue with Uneducated people. – Like


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      Sharon Fleischmann, it is now [Wednesday 19 January 2022] 10:19 AM Calif. time, 8:19 PM your time in Johannesburg, South Africa.47 minutes ago you posted up here, “Gary Gevisser I no longer dabble in this lunacy! People need to get Educated about their Roots, and Move On!!! Blacks and Whites were Colonizers. Khoi-San were the Indigenous people of South Africa. I won’t argue with Uneducated people. -” which I find quite shocking given how at 9:08 AM Calif. time I wrote you the following:”Harry [Oppenheimer] and his father did not ‘deny’ they were Jewish.I’m going to wait 60 seconds before explaining more to see if you can hold your horses.”

      You didn’t give me the opportunity to explain, instead you went into a long discourse, seemingly oblivious to me writing to you, “I’m going to wait 60 seconds before explaining more to see if you can hold your horses.”

      One of the things people do on facebook-Meta is remove their writings when it gets too embarrassing, and why I continuously make backups which I post up elsewhere on The Internet, including my website, 2facetruth dot com which you are familiar with, because you previously sent me a link to my mother Zena’s most interesting BIO which I keep asking if you have read it.

      https://www.2facetruth.com/zena-r-gevisser/

      Following this post I am going to be making another backup.

      So at around 9:32 AM my time, which was after you wrote in reply to my question, “Are you still there?” which was at 9:10 AM after counting off 60 seconds, and providing you the countdown, you wrote,

      “The Bottom line is, he renounced his Judaism, and became an Anglican because it was not particularly commendable to BE Jewish because of Anti-semitism. Politically Expedient. – Those were days when Jews were Banned from entering The Rand Club!”

      To repeat; then at 9:32 AM you jumped in here for the first time, and knowing it is a very public forum, plus I’m surely not the dumbest person you have ever met either in person or on social media, “Gary Gevisser I no longer dabble in this lunacy! People need to get Educated about their Roots, and Move On!!! Blacks and Whites were Colonizers. Khoi-San were the Indigenous people of South Africa. I won’t argue with Uneducated people. -“

      At 9:55 AM you followed up on fb messaging the following 6 paragraphs ending, “… dangerous territory. -“:

      The Oppenheimer don’t impress me one way or the other. They made their money from Mining. Harry wasn’t Einstein!! Ultra Rich people have Investors working for them. I don’t get impressed by names. I’ve known, met and lived with French Royalty. The Wife a French “Duchess”, the husband an International Attorney. They lived in the 16th Arrandisement in Paris, – for the Rich and Famous. We dined with government every night. I’ve met the President of S. A. and many of our Wealthy politicians, in my work. Big Deal!

      I also don’t argue the Land issue with Uneducated Locals in my country. The fact is, All stole this land from the Khoi-San. Do I care? Not a damn! Sad that people are “Stuck” in this -no progress. –

      I don’t investigate peoples Education either. Many Book Fools around, to my knowledge. Devrees don’t necessarily make you Educated. It’s far more complicated. Cultural too. Environment. Upbringing. Social Norms. Psychology. EQ & IQ. – all part of it. –

      Genetics too!

      My late Father was Brilliant. Was a fighter Pilot in the War, on return had a Stock Broking Company. My Mom, Very Beautiful Vivien Leigh look alike, but not well educated, but – immaculately Groomed, intelligent, poised. –

      I’m the Bright one that dropped out, ventured into dangerous territory. –

      At 10:13 AM I responded;

      “How many missions did your father fly?

      What aircraft did he fly?

      Do you have his logbooks?

      Also if you don’t care that the land was stolen by force, then you wouldn’t have a problem if force was used to get it back, not so?”

      Sharon Fleischmann, it took you 42 minutes before responding at 10:54 AM with the following:

      “I suggest you study the origins of each and every black tribe in South Africa, before we discuss anything” before going on to answer some of my questions regarding your father who was a fighter pilot with Squadron 92 during WW2.

      At 10:58 AM you followed up:

      “I would have a problem with Civil War, for whatever reason. I don’t see a solution to South Africa. It’s headed for Disaster, one way or the other. -“.

      At 11:05 AM, which was less than a minute ago I responded;

      I have studied; hence my question remains, “if you don’t care that the land was stolen by force, then you wouldn’t have a problem if force was used to get it back?”

      Why would you have a problem with Civil War but not a problem with force being used to get back land stolen using the pointed barrel of a gun?

       

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      Sharon Fleischmann, I am waiting for your answer to, “Why would you have a problem with Civil War but not a problem with force being used to get back land stolen using the pointed barrel of a gun?”I can only suspect that you are dumbfounded by “… if you don’t care that the land was stolen by force, then you wouldn’t have a problem if force was used to get it back, not so?”Suggesting that I need to “study the origins …” is deceptive.Sharon Fleischmann, don’t you think we should get back to why Harry Oppenheimer and his father Sir Ernest Oppenheimer who have always backed all sides to war when they couldn’t possibly lose, did not deny they were once Jewish, as well as why they were not disheartened when not able to finish off us Jewish people in Israel’s first war of survival, War of Independence [1947-1949]?

      Bear in mind this Margot Stewart who is also one of my fb friends and share 4 mutual friends versus 44 with you, is also totally out of her league, and that too I will share with everyone in due course.

      The need to talk is a human attribute, and more so if you are either not born a “Late Talker” which I was most fortunate to have contained within my genes or to have a curious mind that questions bullshit.

      What happened to rational thinking following the discovery of the computer?

      Everyone, and that would include Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk should pay utmost attention to Sharon Fleischmann’s “The fact is, All stole this land from the Khoi-San. Do I care? Not a damn! Sad that people are “Stuck” in this -no progress. -” as it represents the opinion of all horrifically educated people who have the biggest chip on their shoulders as well as my response, “if you don’t care that the land was stolen by force, then you wouldn’t have a problem if force was used to get it back, not so?”.

      I have a classmate and cousin, Sandra (Moshal) Jacobson [1957-1997] who ventured into dangerous territory when she joined the armed wing of the African National Congress [ANC], uMkhonto we Sizwe whose abbreviation, MK, is known to most South Africans, soon after matriculating at our Jewish day school in Durban, South Africa, Carmel College which was run by the pro-Apartheid Regime’s Durban North, orthodox Jewish Lazarus clan who openly supported, including have fund raises at their homes, this most violent regime, whose top officials such as John Vorster were imprisoned during World War II for their support of Nazi Germany.

      Sandy who was brutally tortured to death by members of the Malan Death Squad was directly involved in the most dangerous of the MK operations which took place on the evening of December 19, 1985 when the last remaining top echelon of the MK Commanders were decapitated, bringing to an end all opposition to the Oppenheimers’ Apartheid Regime.

      There was obviously an informer within the MK, and it was neither Sandy Jacobson nor the Commanders or their wives and children who were all executed as they prepared in neighboring Lesotha to reenter South Africa to conduct attacks agains the Apartheid Regime.

      Sandy of course was overmatched from the very moment she joined MK-ANC which was already fully infiltrated when Nelson Mandela joined in 1944.

       

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      At 11:21 AM, just 10 minutes ago, Sharon Fleischmann who can see that everyone watching is very quiet and figuring out their best options, wrote me back on fb messaging:”Are you then suggesting each and every country, bar a few, enter into civil war? Many lands have changed hands, Geographically, as did migrating tribes. Frankly I don’t give a hoot as to whom. The original Indigenous people were 100 or 500 years ago. The only possibility of progress was killed by Black Power, which is equally as heinous and as damaging as Apartheid was. Let’s not forget it was The British who invaded and Colonized this land, before the Afrikaaner settlers. And prior to the British were murderous. MIGRATING tribes. It’s a pointless debate. There are less than100,000 Khoi-San left. There is NO posdibilityuof a cohesive Govt., Like the rest of Africa, S. A. IS Headed for bloodshed, poverty and chaos. -Excuse Typos.At 11:23 AM I replied:
      I can excuse your typos but not your intentions.

      It is you who wrote, “All stole this land from the Khoi-San. Do I care? Not a damn! Sad that people are “Stuck” in this -no progress. -” and therefore if you DON’T CARE that the land was stolen by force, then you wouldn’t have a problem if force was used to get it back.

      We here are talking morals and logic.

      The fact that you are trying to change the subject which you started and you showed zero morals when writing, “Do I care? Not a damn!” before going to say everyone other than you and those who have the same opinion as you are stupid, “Sad that people are ‘Stuck’ in this -no progress. -” shows that you are the exact same as everyone who is deceptive.

      I notice that you are now quiet on Rian Geldenhuys’ wall where you find the “Children” story along with my clear, articulate response to your bad writings.

      Let us now keep the conversation there.

      The more people learn the truth of what makes the human tick, the less likely we will succomb to the wars and brainwashing of the SA Oppenheimers and their shills.

      At 11:31 AM Sharon Fleischmann did not take my advice that we keep the conversation going on Mr. Geldenhuys’ wall, instead she writes:

      “Gary, I’m leaving this country. Not interested. Majority of people are Uneducated, there is rampant ‘ reverse Racism ‘, for want of a better word. Govt., is corrupt like all countries in Africa. Still incredibly primitive. I don’t see a solution. – I don’t know what you’re referring to. Haven’t the faintest idea? What ‘ children’ article?”.

       

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      It is now 11:36 AM Calif. time and everyone can see that there is nothing remotely educated about Sharon Fleischmann or most all of you listening.She continues to write me distracting stuff on fb messaging, and for sure it cannot do her health any good.Sharon Fleischmann, I have now stopped responding to you on fb messaging, but I will provide you a backup of those important conversations, just in case.Moreover, it is not possible to follow your increasingly incoherant writings which again is standard operating procedure for those in denial and who have written the most ugly stuff, “All stole this land from the Khoi-San. Do I care? Not a damn!” while making out that they are so evolved.

      Sharon Fleischmann, If you scroll up here, the 7 page Children story can be read and also show it to your two sons and anyone else you have previously spoken your warped, illogical politics-economics.

      Are you ready to hear more about the German-South African Oppenheimers including Harry Oppenheimer who you began singing his praises, “No, afraid I did not have the pleasure of meeting Harry Openheimer” or were you being sarcastic which is not what I picked up; on the contrary, I thought you were impressed with him, and wanted me to know that.

      But it turns out that you detest the man with a passion.

      That would make you a hypocrite, wouldn’t it?

       

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      Title: Psychotic backstabbersSolly Krok, it is now 1:58 PM Calif. time, 11:58 PM in South Africa, assuming you are still in SA where the financially rich, all courtesy of the SA Oppenheimers, live far better than even during the height of the Apartheid Regime, and that progress is measured by South Africa having more private helicopters per capita than any other country, or so I have been told.You have to ask yourself, “Where exactly is the conscience of the world?”

      Solly you and I talk more honestly to each other than you do to all your children and grandchildren and that is because I make perfect sense.

      It is also doubtful that you are asleep at this time, and if so you will wake up to my writings; check for a backup in your email inbox.

      It is important to note the SA Oppenheimers have the same control with the desperately poor and all in between, not only in South Africa but throughout the world.

       

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    • Active      Gary Gevisser
      P2 – Psychotic backstabbersYet each of us are instinctively attracted to beauty, and why it is that people are so particular about the image of themselves they place up in their fb profile along with their photos of family members and friends; and what do you do if your family member is fat and ugly?You need that much more money to marry them off and produce offspring, and then hope for the best, and not much thought there because you will likely be dead.Most people don’t think when having children what they are bringing them into even though they look around and see that the depletion of the green space, and poisoning of the oceans, hasn’t improved the beauty of the surroundings over the past century when wars have been as popular as ever?

      If I am boring anyone, please let me know.

       

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    • Active      Gary Gevisser
      P3 – Psychotic backstabbersHow utterly disgusting to even think, “Still incredibly primitive…”The most interesting part is that the downtrodden have no less to fear from those on the left who talk like they care for the poor but are as sleazy, revolting as those on the right who mostly call on scripture to make their case; and how ugly for this intellectual midget, Margot Stewart to bring up King Solomon as if it has any relevancy to these conversations, all the while accusing me of something I haven’t done which would have every Jewish sage applauding for my courage to tell it exactly the way it is.

      The politics-economics of South Africa since the turn of the last century is the perfect spot to conduct the assessment of human devolution.

      How difficult was it to figure out that all the opposition leadership of the SA Oppenheimers’ Apartheid Regime were no less corrupt than the Apartheid Regime?

      Mr. Tony Leon, my lifelong pal, who headed up the Democratic Party [DP], starting in 1994 when declawed Mandela and the ANC were brought to power after 46 unterrupted years of the murder of the strongest opponents of Apartheid Regime, didn’t need to confide in me back in 1995 when I returned to SA for several months, “Harry Oppenheimer is the biggest problem in South Africa”, because it was obvious from the moment Oppenheimer won his seat in the rigged South African General Election of 26 May 1948 when the brilliant and increasingly enlightened General Jan Christian Smuts [24 May 1870-11 September 1950] who saved half of European Jewry during our Holocaust that ended just 3 years prior, was defeated.

      How in the world can one even use a word like “elected” when 93% of the population cannot vote because they are not white skins, and nor did the non-whites control either the purse strings or the land or the minerals that lie below?

      Yet everyone knows that it takes money to win elections and a lot of talk goes into who are the biggest donors and how important it is to avoid foreign nationals or foreign governments from influencing elections.

      The fact that a lot of money goes into the election process should be the clearest warning sign that something is patently wrong.

      Look how much bullshit history is argued not only on this wall by total neophytes from all the different races but by the media and the politicians.

      But again, if you lack common sense about the world as a whole then you simply need to look at South Africa which houses well under 1% of the world’s population.

      You haven’t forgotten about those helicopters.

      Tony Leon whose assistant, Ma’ayab Jowel -pa.tonyleon@gmail.com keeps writing me to remove her from my email list because she too is busy, was preceded as head of the DP by Zach de Beer, who was to the best of my knowledge neither a farmer nor a diamond prospector, but like Tony Leon’s successor Helen Zille steered well clear of criticizing publicly the SA Oppenheimers who single-handedly ran the entire show in South Africa following the death of their partner, German-South African Charles W. Engelhard Jr. who took his last breath on 2 March 1971 having turned just 54 the month before and which Mossad head, David Ben Gurion [1886-1973] knew would shake up all the world’s leaders as well as their respective intelligence gathering agencies.

      Yes, how in the world can you possibly talk either politics or economics if you don’t know the first thing you are talking about.

      I also doubt very much this mass psychosis of stupidity can all be blamed on the increasing smoking of pot.

      Of course most South Africans as well Amsterdam, Holland pot smokers are familiar with Durban Poison also abbreviated DP, and now even on the west coast of the United States they are hearing more and more about Durban’s DP.

      Until such time as you become very ugly looking and/or totally stupid it is beauty that sells until such time as you get your biggest kicks hurting good people which is logically more likely to come from the ugly looking and stupid.

      How many of you have either put on weight since your teens and/or keep putting on more weight, and then you quickly start losing all pride in yourself, and justifying your lack of willpower because everyone around you is fat but you are now rich?

      Lynne Karen Bentel, I haven’t heard from you in a while; why is that?

      How do we go from caring for our bodies as children, when our parents and other teachers are quick to offer immediate comfort, to “just get over it”?

       

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      P4 – Psychotic backstabbersIt is when the contrived money is introduced into our thinking by the very ugly parent-grandparent who dangles the inheritance monies at the end of their noses, and lying through their teeth when arguing, “I have worked very hard for my money so that you can live a better life!”.It is most important this despicable conversation I have been having with Sharon Fleischmann who is anything but rich financially, and only waking up now after spending going on 66 years on this planet, how the real Dog Eat A Dog [DEAD] world works, and nor is she willing to drop her arragance because she would be asking herself, “How can I get rich like Solly Krok and avoid having to make Aliya”, immigration to Israel, which began changing dramatically upon the passing of Ben Gurion on 1 December 1973.Who here needs help understanding chapter 16 of Professor Epstein’s The D I book, aptly titled, WARRING WITH ISRAEL?

      https://edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap16.htm

      Bear in mind, if I thought for a single moment that no Higher Energy Reaction [HER] or as Einstein says, “The Old One” [TOO] didn’t exist, then of course I would act like the rest of you.

       

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    • Active      Gary Gevisser
      P5 – Psychotic backstabbersSolly Krok, Sharon Fleischmann who I haven’t heard from in going on 4 hours may not yet realize that all charities including your, Keep The Wolves At The Door charity is just one more yoke on the shoulders of the poor, forget the ongoing killing of the planet.Clearly Solly, you wouldn’t be on facebook or any social media if you weren’t so bored and disgusted with your family members and the no less sickening Jewish orthodox ChaBAD sic rabbis surrounding you ever since you came into money, and who you now recognize don’t have a pious bone in their bodies which you first should have realized when they fail to take care of their body-temple, yet quick to tell other Jewish people that they should wear a Yarmulke, lay tefilin every day, and say their prayers and never forgeting the sanctity of the Sabbath day.

      Need I also mention why you don’t keep a running count of monies contributed by those who can afford it.

      That doesn’t mean I have changed my opinion of you, because you remain in my eyes nothing less than a prince, which is different to a frog.

      You are not a frog and nor do I see you returning as a frog.

      I cannot say the same for any of your idiot children and grandchildren just waiting for you to die and then deleting your facebook account.

      The fact that you never picked up on the ugliness of the SA Oppenheimers is understandable given the ugliness that surrounded you, other than your very smart wife Rita; and yet you ended up with such losers as children and grandchildren; and yet to find a redeeming quality in any of them.

      Clearly we don’t pick our children and parents and therefore more reason to be smart in everything we do.

      Of course it is only the weak minded who have given up on South Africa.

      There is no such thing as bad press.

      Violence and violence talk plays right into the hands of the SA Oppenheimers who are only comforted by the fact that no one shows any backbone, instead they just keeping talking up a storm and that consciousness is all they need to feel human.

       

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    • Active      Gary Gevisser
      P6 – Psychotic backstabbersWhen you are betting on the SA Oppenheimers and their shills it is easy to see that you are betting on the Devil In Disguise.So what that they have silenced all their critics other than me and my mother Zena.

      How much uglier can it possibly get than that?

      Everyone who has read The D I book perfectly understands their control over the human population and the destruction of the planet no matter that they pontificate how much they are today environmentalists.

      You can see all these debaters on this wall as well as on my fb wall without forgeting their silence on my more than a dozen fb group chats-symposiums that I have got it down perfectly.

      So why wait for GoDNature to descend from heaven or send up another volcano that does more than rock the entire planet with again just one eruption like the other day in Tonga, when you can see clearly where the Devil resides but is still no match for good because they haven’t managed to blow up the entire planet so far and the prospects get gloomier for them with each passing moment as the information continues to get out.

       

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    • Active      Gary Gevisser
      P7 – Psychotic backstabbersA conscious specie has to make rational thought at all times unless it is sleeping.If us Jewish South Africans including Sharon Fleischmann don’t have the first clue about the thinking of the SA Oppenheimers because they don’t know their history of rewarding the weakest thinking Jewish South Africans, how can you expect the rest of the world’s population to think “We shouldn’t worry, Jewish South Africans kept the Apartheid Regime in check”?They sure are arrogant.

      What in the world are they doing talking about education.

      How dare anyone refer to as “primitive” the indigenous peoples of the world who are not responsible for 75% of the green space being eradicated over the past century and less than 24% remaining, meaning that not even Breatharians will be able to breath with death to the planet easily well within the next 30 years and that is without taking into account wars and the obesity epidemic which no one talks about, instead making such a fuss about the Covid and the need to save human life, blah blah.

      The SA Oppenheimers made their money not in mining but messing with the education system and then handing the money to their most obedient who were counted on to have the poor in their communities fight over scraps while also turning informers.

      How could you get rich investing in real estate in South Africa and also support your religious institutions whose clergy always talked out of both sides of their mouths just like the politicians?

      Remember we are not lizards looking for a warm spot on a rock and knowing that they are that much more exposed to a predator snake.

      We are incessant talking humans first preaching to our children the importance of morals.

      The fact that no logical argument has been put forth for taking away the human rights of non-whites in South Africa following World War 2, forcing them to carry passes in their ancestral lands and at the same time handing their lands to the most obedient white slave masters who didn’t bring money to the table, only the SA Oppenheimers’ guns, is much more than deplorable.

      It is against all logical reasoning.

      How easy it is in this very connected world to get every talker to go quiet is because it is preposterous this insanity thinking; and they continue to build places of worship as if God-HER-Too is a total idiot.

      Nor is Sharon Fleishman the only South African impressed with the wealth of big construction builders and real estate speculators all the while thinking they are educated and the rest all fools.

      Obviously she was impressed with French Royalty otherwise she wouldn’t talk about it.

      How totally stupid to dine with government every night and not come away rich while listening to all their crap?

      So why pick on me to show that you are no different to the filthy rich who have no conscience other than you are not as rich as them?

      But how can you explain everyone being a fool and quick to point a finger at the fools?

      It must all be ego.

      But ego is something that we can control unless it turns out that we are not at all in control in which case shouldn’t we all do our best just in case there is something smarter than us, even if it is every computer that is in control?

      Yes, is the correct answer.

      Could you imagine anything dumber than this talkative human who has an opinion on every subject and only cares about getting the money so that they don’t need to interact with anyone?

       

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    • Active      Gary Gevisser
      P8 – Psychotic backstabbersWho here remembers, and it is now 4:05 PM, what activity of man prices the cost of land, sugar, ostrich feathers, dental procedures, bribes and the such, and yet it doesn’t cost the SA Oppenheimers a penny? 

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    • Active      Gary Gevisser
      P9 – Psychotic backstabbersIt is as though the human race has been sleeping for the past 100 years. 

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      P10 – Psychotic backstabbersO, we are so enlightened, “I suggest you study the origins of each and every black tribe in South Africa, before we discuss anything”.Why do I need to study anything more than “… all stolen… I don’t care… I’m leaving this country. Not interested. Majority of people are Uneducated, there is rampant …Still incredibly primitive. I don’t see a solution.”

      Thamsanqa Manceda, let’s quickly revisit your earlier writings, “Did we deserve to be beaten for not carrying a fucking pass?

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      It is more insane than you thought.

      What total garbage, “he [Harry Oppenheimer] renounced his Judaism, and became an Anglican because it was not particularly commendable to BE Jewish because of Anti-semitism. Politically Expedient. – Those were days when Jews were Banned from entering The Rand Club!”

      Sharon Fleischmann, being as worldly as you are, and stating just as clearly that you haven’t been corrupted by the money, have you figured out, now that I gave you a link to Professor Edward Jay Epstein’s epic 1978 non-fiction book, The Diamond Invention that is free on The Internet, what steps the SA Oppenheimers’ took to finish off us Jewish people just as they did legitimate opposition to their Apartheid Regime?

      Why is it so difficult for everyone to apologise when you know that you have all got it wrong?

      How do you find comfort in such large numbers counting on the truth remaining hidden?

      After writing so much trash that conflicts with the previous trash and the next trash, one massive black hole of ignorance, garbage in, garbage out, they have the audacity to play teacher, “The only possibility of progress was killed by Black Power, … It’s a pointless debate … S. A. IS Headed for bloodshed, poverty and chaos. -“ before than politely, “Excuse Typos.”

       

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      P11 – Psychotic backstabbersRemember Sharon Fleischmann is just one crab scrambling over the next to avoid being eaten by a Manta Ray. Like


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      • Active        Gary Gevisser
        P12 – Psychotic backstabbersSeeking comfort in numbers amongst a herd of wildebeest works for wildebeest but not for arrogant man.So how do you live with yourselves not being able to understand why you act so irrationally, unwilling to debate logically, instead your oversized egos have you trusting in your government officials and their rich benefactors who see that you don’t care if real estate developers destroy the green and we keep building more powerful weapons to destroy the overpopulation who are mostly poor because the arrogant don’t want them any better educated.

        And yet most all of you want to save lives by giving vaccines to the children who have no choice and you could care less about the long term weakening of their immune system which is built up by healthy air and good food intake.

        You need intelligence to have morals.

         

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