Origin
Born:
Location: South Africa
Father: Leslie Gevisser
Mother:
Wife:
Uncle:
David Gevisser
Cousins:
Mark Gevisser,
Anthony Gevisser, Peter Gevisser, John Gevisser
Children:
Religion:
Jewish
Education
Primary:
Secondary:
College:
Politics
Correspondence
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 8 at 11:15pm
Hi Jonathan,
Are you related to the South African Gevissers?
cheers,
Adam
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 9 at 1:10am
Indeed, Adam,
i am a SA Gevisser, of which there a few branches!
Which of us do you know and how?
cheers
j
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 9 at 1:27pm
Hi Jonathan,
I actually just began a dialogue with Bernie Gevisser whose father Issy Gevisser
was one of the founders of Moshal Gevisser which I read owned a company called
ACME Timber that apparently owned "huge forests" in Natal, South Africa.
When I heard that Issy also owned priceless land in Hafia Harbor, Israel I
wondered what Bernie was doing living in South Africa and not in Israel; which
is actually where my parents met up in 1972 while my dad fought in the Yom
Kippur war.
How are you related to Bernie who I understand fought in the second world war?
cheers,
Adam
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 9 at 10:58pm
Yes, Moshal Gevisser was the family firm. My grandfather, Morris Gevisser and
his brother-in-law, Sol Moshal, along with Issy, Morris' brother, were the
founders. Bernie and my dad, Leslie, were first cousins and worked there almost
all their working lives until it was sold under the table to Natie Kirsch who
did the first asset strip in SA, dismantling in a few months what had taken
generations to build..
Both Bernie and my dad fought in WW2. Bernie was a pilot who flew Spitfires.
Wonderful man. I went to school with his kids.
Bernie lives in Melbourne now, near his daughter Kathy.
Where/who/how are you... and what's your interest in all this??
Ciao
Jonny
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 11 at 8:58am
Jonny,
I am actually interested in getting to the bottom of how the US allowed the
Apartheid regime to stay in power for so long.
Even though there were many Jewish people who lead opposition to the Apartheid,
there were a great many Jewish people especially here in the US who were open
supporters of the Apartheid regime beginning with Charles Engelhard Jr.
David Gevisser's Bio
http://www.whoswhosa.co.za/Pages/profilefull.aspx?IndID=2993
While doing some research into Engelhard, the name David Gevisser came up
beginning with him being named CEO of Engelhard's South African operations in
1970 but there is no mention in David Gevisser's bio of what he did before that
led to him becoming CEO.
What is your relationship to David Gevisser? Would you know if David Gevisser
was in fact connected to Moshal Gevisser?
Cheers,
Adam
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 11 at 10:21am
He is my uncle and worked at Moshal Gevisser at the start of his career. Yopu
should contact him directly if you want more info. I don't feel comfortable
talking about him 'behind his back', asit were. Suffice to say, however, that he
was an advisor to Kader Asmal when he was Minister of Water Affairs and Forestry
in the first democratic government after 94.
Cheers
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 11 at 2:09pm
Interestingly enough I came across this email communication online between a
Mark Gevisser that mentions Moshal Gevisser Group; is it correct to assume that
Mark is Davids son?
----- Original Message
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From: Tefo Mohapi
To: Mark Gevisser
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:16 PM
Subject: Gevisser's
Mark,
Knowing very well that what I'm about to ask you is most probably none of my
business, I was just curious as to how much Thabo Mbeki knows about your
family and it's history.
More especially The Moshal Gevisser Group of Companies.
As I said, I'm just curious being a South African and knowing you to be
quite articulate from reading what you have written.
Kgotso! (Peace)
Tefo Mohapi
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Gevisser
To: Tefo Mohapi
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Gevisser's
Hi Tefo
Not quite sure how to take your question, or why you are asking it. I doubt
Mbeki knows --or should know-- anything about Moshal Gevisser except that
his mother bought her goods wholesale from them for her trading store.
Mark
Mark Gevisser
Assuming this is Davids son,
Mark seems to be distancing himself and his father from Moshal Gevisser.
You say it was an under the table deal which is curious because it seems to
have taken place a year or so before Marks father started to become very rich
and then it turns out, based on additional reading that David Gevisser became
the executor of Charles Engelhards estate when he died on March 2nd, 1971.
Apart from you, do you know why the Gevisser family would not want to talk about
this major stripping of assets? Could it be that Engelhard had something to do
with that under the table deal?
Do you know how can I reach David Gevisser?
Kgotso,
Adam
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 11 at 9:30pm
lots stories i grew up with re MG's demise, replete with conspiracy theories,
most especially around natie kirsch and sol moshal. i don't recall an engelhard
link though. my dad and Bernie were broken by the collapse of the firm and found
themselves on the street, caps in hand looking for jobs. they never could get to
the bottom of it.
old history, old wounds, that resulted in much suffering in our small branch of
the family, shadowing our childhoods hugely.
lots to love!
onwards ho and kgotso indeed
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 12 at 9:20pm
I would like to send you some photos that I think you would appreciate.
Do you have a yahoo or gmail account that I can send them to?
Cheers!
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 12 at 10:13pm
adam, please desist.
seems you know gary well and so your knowledge of the family, especially bernie
and david is probably similar to mine even greater, as gary has made a study of
the chequered history, specifically around the sell-out of MG that badly efected
his and our branch more than most...yet you made out you knew nada..
i'd rather call this quits, thanks.
good luck.
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