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Robert Oppenheimer speaking at UCLA 5/14/1964
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@garygevisser1262
3 years ago
Notice the mention of General Smuts that appears to go over everyone’s head. Would anyone like to know more?
@thomasbertrand8204
3 years ago
I’m not one to pass up this chance to learn more on the topic
@pharaohgarmar5611
1 year ago
Very good, Gary, I noticed it also. His name was mispronounced.
@nikkivens9812
5 hours ago
Still waiting
@garygevisser1262
27 seconds ago
Title: Answer would have to be given soon [Word count 1846]
@nikkivens9812 , I only now saw your “Still waiting” which you posted up 4 hours ago; the same with @thomasbertrand8204 who wrote 3 years ago, “I’m not one to pass up this chance to learn more on the topic”, and @pharoahgarmar5611 who wrote a year ago, “Very good, Gary, I noticed it also. His name was mispronounced”.
Knowing every last detail of General Smuts would mean getting inside his head, while remembering man is not good at keeping secrets, and smart people like Smuts understood this perfectly without feeling the need to elaborate.
So why do good people write their autobiographies, or at least cooperate with their biographer?
Actually the greatest of the human specie know better; they don’t produce an autobiography, aware that if the truth be told, they would be killed before the first print got off the press, most likely; or, they would be quickly written out of the history books by the victors of wars who write the history books, and see to it that our nice sounding institutions geared towards the betterment of humanity actually do the exact opposite.
In late December 1972, 15 years of age, I had the opportunity to answer Mossad head, David Ben Gurion’s good question, “What have learned during your 4 month Ulpan-Gadna [military youth training]” which took place at his kibbutz Sde Boker, with the following, and I delivered it without hesitation, even though I was quite surprised by the question, “Those who know, don’t talk; those who don’t, do all the talking; once you tell a secret, it is no longer a secret.”
Today I’m 51 odd years older, and I believe no less wiser; helped greatly by my change in diet, all thanks due to my “gift from God” wife Marie Dion, before I hit 50 when my physical health was no less than well above average, plus the fact that no one convinced me it makes more sense to tell secrets when people are driven by money, rather than morals.
That doesn’t mean because people’s God is money that God is a fool for creating this no mistake human who is too busy racing after the money than seeking truth and knowledge.
If you take the position that God exists then you have a better chance of seeing God at work than assuming the wrong case, that God doesn’t exist.
For starters you will pay that much more attention to coincidences that are impossible to predict.
The more you learn the benefits of staying in the moment the easier it is to see God’s hand in everything.
That would mean when you notice a garden snake swiftly move in the vicinity of a resident lizard who you can’t see because it has either been eaten or is in hiding, instead of asking yourself if the snake is conscious of the lizard, having picked up its vibrations, but rather the obvious; namely, God has placed both the snake which is visible to your eyes and the lizard who is only in your imagination.
It is an exercise each of us can do, and it is not only fun but makes the drudgery of life, the mass psychosis of stupidity that is increasingly prevalent, worth living.
Marie Dion ~ People with little intelligence have great difficulty feeling stupid!
Upon death man has plenty of time to sleep unless God decides it is best punishment for the voyeurs and stagnant wimps to be returned as potted plants into the care of those too busy to give it clean, healthy water, the right amount of sunlight, and positive encouragement.
It is quite the coincidence that Smuts, the only signatory to both World War peace treaties, died on 11 September 1950, 51 years to the day prior to 9/11.
222 days prior to 9/11, Israel’s Jerusalem Post published my first of 4 articles that strongly criticized the treason pardon of terrorist financier Marc Rich on 42nd Commander In Chief, President Clinton’s last day in office, 20 January 2001.
One has to have a lot of knowledge that is so contrarian to the standard belief that Rich simply bought Clinton with a promise of further Presidential Library contributions in order for Israel’s most widely read English newspaper to not stop with the first, an “Open Letter” to Israeli-Soviet-American spy Jonathan Pollard, now into his 16th year of solitary confinement in a US maximum security prison, and the first 32 word paragraph spelling it all out, word perfect:
The pardon of Marc Rich eliminated not only an opportunity of justice being served but it would have allowed the public to view the role that oil brokers play in furthering terrorism.
In the course of the past 22 years, 5 months and 11 days, the silence of all those profiting from the wrong history taught in the high school and university history text books and which the teachers and professors espouse to be much more truthful than anything written in scripture which could only come into being if the current strongman dictator saw it as beneficial to holding on to the reins of power, has not managed to convince me I was wrong.
Their silence also confirms that man is not a good animal as much as he protests he cares about life, liberty, and the pursuit of justice for all.
The pursuit of happiness, we can all agree is rather subjective.
So what does it mean?
With that as a backdrop, let’s dive into the so small, easy to miss mention of Smuts in the 1 hour, 15 minutes, and 36 second, Robert Oppenheimer speaking at UCLA 5/14/1964.
46 minutes in:
General Smuts had been wise before …
1 hour, 9 minutes and 38 seconds, give or take, after Physicist Oppenheimer had mentioned “demand for an open world”, Robert Oppenheimer elucidates:
“If we had acted, wisely, and thoughtfully, in accordance of what he [Bohr] said, we might have been freed of our rather blasphemous sense of omnipotence, and our delusions about the effectiveness of secrecy, and that we might have turned our society toward a healthier vision of a future worth living for, an increased dedication to knowledge and to truth.
With the development of the arms race and its intensification, the bitterness of the Cold War, and the multi-megaton warheads and rockets, Bohr turned more and more to what he knew he could do, international cooperation in science, good communication, understanding, friendliness, reasonable institutions, great goodwill…”
Skipping a little, 1 hour, 12 minutes and 51 seconds, R. Oppenheimer continues, “Bohr often spoke with deep appreciation of mortality, mortality that screams out the mistakes, the failures and follies, that would otherwise encumber our future, that makes it possible what we have learned and proved itself be transmitted for the next generation.”
He trails off into the boring subject of “Atomic control”.
Those reasonable institutions do not exist.
None of them, including the OECD [Organization for Economic Cooperation & Development] headquartered in Paris, France, which also houses the Nuclear Energy Agency [NEA] are doing their job to make the world a more peaceful and safe place for people to be free to about their lives, makes money, practice their religion freely, without fear, be charitable, if they can, and the such.
On the contrary, the former principal economist for the OECD-NEA, Dr Geoffrey Rothwell Phd, has confirmed that his employer wiped out all opposition to nuclear weapons development, and he made this shocking announcement back on 25 June 2013; his 2 short emails, 8 minutes apart, containing the smoking gun of high crimes and misdemeanors of the Nth Degree.
BTW, you can safely assume that well prior to Rothwell, whose previous job was senior lecturer of economics at Stanford University, a position he head for 27 odd years, had thoroughly studied my 4 articles in the JP.
R. Oppenheimer who, was completely clueless about the money-mineral game, unless he was the greatest actor of all time, and still he wouldn’t have been able to fool Harry Oppenheimer or his son Nicholas who has the goods on everyone, including Putin and Pregozhin, along with others bleeding Ukraine dry, talks about Bohr’s desire to see the world free of “provincialism, free of the military orientation and preoccupation of NATO.”
BTW, I have been from the start of the Ukraine war, 24 February 2022, in full support of NATO giving Zelenskyy the west’s most advanced weaponry which would end the war within 24 hours with far less risk of Putin-Russia introducing nuclear weapons on to the battlefield when compared to the increased risk by every moment’s delay in the total defeat of the Kremlin elite.
Bear in mind that Bohr, who was communicating with Smuts on his death bed, back in June 1950, and that correspondence speaks clearly to their tight friendship, trust and respect, travelled to Russia shortly before his death; and it is not because Bohr had a love of communist dictators, or for that matter any politician who is bought by the military industrial complex who justify backing all sides to war when they cannot possibly lose on the basis that they are bottom line driven; have a duty to their shareholders, employees, contractors, in house lawyers, private security personnel, personal physicians, current wife, household staff and their families, plus their own children, step-children, grandchildren, and the such.
Note also R. Oppenheimer commenting on Bohr not retiring to a life of leisure following WW2:
“He travelled extensively to this country [USA], England and Israel”.
If you don’t already know, Israel has long been a super-nuclear power.
R. Oppenheimer did not however mention that General Smuts was known to his Nazi enemies as “Jew King”.
In fact Smuts, who within 2 years of his death began being written out of the history books, was the best friend of the Jewish people since Moses; responsible for saving half of European Jewry during the Holocaust. An important kibbutz, Ramat Yohanan is named after Smuts.
Wikipedia which purposefully gets a lot of things wrong, gets this part right:
“Upon graduating high school in 1940, Yitzhak Rabin [Prime Minister of Israel] joined the kibbutz’s Noar Ha’oved (Working Youth) training program.”
So how close were Smuts and Bohr?
As close as Master Spy Catcher Smuts was to Ben Gurion.
Ask me your questions after first reading my latest BLOG, “Choosing change increases the chances of success” as well as my last posting on Symposium Getting to know your friend, titled, “Whoever screams the loudest”.
One further item. Check out chapter 24, Sombre Victory, page 436 of Sir W.K. Hancock’s Second Volume Smuts biography. titled:
Smuts
THE FIELDS OF FORCE
Scroll down, middle of second paragraph:
“He [Smuts] produced no answer to Bohr’s question [whether to share the Manhattan Project secrets with Stalin] but confined himself to insisting that the answer would have to be given soon.”
Sir Keith Hancock, a Rhodes-Oppenheimer-De Beers Scholar (1920), was a staff member of the British War Cabinet whose short list membership included General Smuts, who was also a member during World War I having performed admirably on the battlefields.
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Again, children are like potted plants; they need to be given clean, healthy water, the right amount of sunlight, and positive encouragement.
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“Answer would have to be given soon” ~ Smuts
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From: Professor Raymond Monk <R.Monk@soton.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: Answer would have to be given soon -: Choosing …
Date: July 13, 2023 at 3:45:52 AM PDT
To: gary gevisser <garystevengevisser@icloud.com>
Thank you.
15 May 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uGqrD8-hj0
Robert Oppenheimer: A Life Inside the Center – Ray Monk
Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton.
Marked as “subversives” by the FBI, all stemming from the “weak economy” following the totally contrived Wall Street collapse of 1929, and those students of Robert Oppenheimer’s who could get jobs, got low paying blue collar type work, student debt to pay, and no future, not in their field, anyway.
Get the people, especially acadamia in despair, inciting violence becomes profitable all down the line, and going on a century later we have Prigozhin and Putin sharing centerstage with the NATO bigwigs.
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Last I heard from philosopher-mathematician Professor Ray Monk, other than earlier today when he wrote “Thank you” in response to my email broadcast sent to my 10K+ email list, “Answer would have to be given soon”, was back on 13 October 2019, at 4:11 AM California time, when he wrote:
Hi. I’ve looked but I cannot find the source for my “fizzle” remark. Neither can I find any use of that word in my book. You say, “it contradicts everything that Oppenheimer said subsequently?” Can you give me some examples?
I did much more than “… give me some examples”; my response, one might argue, much more than the best selling book of all time, given that like all of “your” [sic], no dummy Professor Ray Monk, knows “best selling” is at best intellectually obscene, when the price mechanism is kaput, which is the case when the minerals market is monopoly.
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Neil Resnick just left. The time, 5:41 PM.
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@Neil Resnick, what didn’t you understand?
To repeat:
“He’s adding me back. I’m so important. I got him. I’m sure not going to block him. If I block myself I look stupid, like I can’t take the heat, or really, I like the attention, (can’t quite make up my mind. I also have Derrick Beare to think about. Does he think I can be trusted even if I do as he instructs, plus we have all talked about how Jonathan Beare’s most trusted right hand, Israeli Avi Lerner turned on him, and demanded a King’s Ransom to keep his mouth shut.
I’m game.
I will leave my mark. I can expect to be on the 2facetruth.com $HIT List and I will lose myself in the crowd; at least I think so, I pray so. I’m now going to shul to speak directly to God.”
So, the question is, what was contained not only in “Answer would have to be given soon” which had Professor Ray Monk responding positively, at the same time his being conspicuously alone in his praise exposing that much more the true colors of everyone else wanting to look good, at least compared to Prigozhin and Putin, unless you think highly of them as does former Murdoch employee, cackling Tucker Carlson who I believe is singularly interested in the money and would flip on a dime, but my response to Professor Ray Monk’s question 3 years and 36 months ago “… some examples” which began with Professor Monk conceding that he couldn’t “find the source for my ‘fizzle’ remark. Neither can I find any use of that word in my book”.
In other words Professor Monk made up the fear “fizzle”; in the event the demonstration to the Japanese of the power of the atomic bomb, “blew up”, as in the bomb “fizzled”, and this would have been subsequent to the success of the Trinity test, the Japanese would have come away laughing.
Nor did it come easy getting Professor Monk to concede that he made up the “fizzle” story that again defies logic.
When the money is corrupted and the people including the top of academia are clueless, it opens up a lot of excuses, none of which does the planet good.
It should be easy to see that if I can get all of you who have different money and love agendas to all go quiet, it doesn’t take rocket science to figure the entire literate population being no less silent.
This is logical extrapolation 101.
@Errol Graham Musk, do you agree with that?
Is there anyone else here who considers themselves good at math, willing to voice their opinion?
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This “fear of fizzle” which you pick up clearly in the question and answer session following the 1 hour and 22 minute, Robert Oppenheimer: A Life Inside the Center – Ray Monk, flies in the face of logic.
If the bomb used in the demonstration “fizzled”, then it was also highly possible the first bomb dropped on Hiroshima would also fizzle, and that would place the United States and its Allies in no worse position.
If it fizzled, and the Japanese had one big laugh, the US-Allies could continue to pummel Japan from the air, until not a single brick could be positively identified.
How many Japanese would have to die before the decision was taken, “Enough is enough?”
Imagine how much more land, close to China and Russia, could be purchased by real estate moguls for pennies on the dollar?
Everyone is working towards making enough money at what they are best at and to invest any surplus in real estate, the best hedge against inflation and The Bank likes real estate collateral the most because they support stolen land acquistion as well as population growth in areas that are friendly.
Where they are not friendly, then we send in people like Prigozhin who is willing to take more losses in human life because the criminals and poor forced into mercenary Wagner only drain the resources of the state.
They kill Ukrainians and Putin-Prigozhin save a lot on prison costs, social programs to deal with alcoholics, drug addicts and the such, who are not counted once buried 6 feet.
If it fizzled in the test, and the Japanese went back to sushi bars, geishas, whoring as drunks are more prone to do, they will suffer less the physical pain in their comotase state, should Little Boy dropped on Hiroshima perform as expected following the Trinity success, with no advance warning, of course, to the Japanese.
So, in a nutshell, the success of Little Boy would be a win for the conscienceless military industrial complex and the loss being having to put up with all the celebration that the Japanese officials enjoyed from the moment the test “fizzled” until approximately 08:15 Japan Standard Time [JST], 6 August 1945.
How terrible would that be?
Bear in mind, the demonstration could have taken place in deep waters just outside Tokyo harbor at 07:15 JST, 6 August 1945.
In other words, most of us, ignoring the conscious sea life, would have put up with Japanese officials celebrating for 60 minutes.
I just picked 07:15 JST. It could have been much closer to 08:15 or why not the day before?
Who remembers the great Robert Oppenheimer crediting Smuts, “General Smuts who had been wise before …”?
Did anyone notice that I left out the “who” right before “had been wise before …”?
It is important to go on because we are talking today some 3 years and 36 months after I last heard from Professor Ray Monk who has continued receiving my volumous, worldly, highly informative communications whose content consistently attract those pretending to care and share fairly, unless they subscribe to the Peter Thiel-Nicholas Oppenheimer doctrine, “Competition is for losers”.
No one else, including our membership here as well as in the rest of my fb Symposiums, have spoken out.
Had the Japanese been convinced ahead of the first use of an atomic weapon against a heavily populated civilian city, then would the world be safer today?
Does anyone have an opinion on anything?
Let’s open the discussion to all topics.
@Neil Resnick, have you expressed yet to Derrick Beare why he felt the need to share his sorrows of being “poor little rich boy”, cash to burn on the most expensive property in all of Britain since 1066 Battle of Hastings, when he could simply have INVESTEC-NICK Oppenheimer set up a dummy corporation offshore with nominee shareholders and directors who paid his asking price; then flogged it off to someone like Mr. Bone Saw, House of Saud-Saudi Arabia or his Jewish American puppet, Jared Kushner, happy to be that much closer to King Charles?
Moreover, no one in the audience or for that matter, The Institute of Advanced Study’s Dutch Director, Robbert Dijkgraaf who introduced Professor Monk, picked up on this nonsense “fizzle” excuse.
Remember, the alumni of The Institute of Advanced Study includes both Einstein and Robert Oppenheimer who served as Director from 1947 until 1966. He died age 62 on February 18, 1967.
Director Robbert Dijkgraaf was Director from 2012 until last year, January 10, 2022 when he was sworn-in as Minister of Education, Culture and Science of the Netherlands by King Willem-Alexander; the same King who has just apologized for the Dutch East India Company’s success, transitioning from shipping slaves in conquered territories, to paying slave wages for those who survive the wars, polluted waters, poor diet, wretched poverty, and the such, without however saying he and his family were willing to trade their lifestyle with the homeless, not even for one day.
Would anyone like to have Professor Raymond Monk who remains one of my 3264 fb friends join us?
Let’s end today’s cultureless class with Churchill’s announcement, “We won the war because our Germans were better than their Germans”, coming at the perfect time in Professor Monk’s speech.
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