How come …? – Backup 2

Economists do it all the time. A couple of years ago my daughter did her degree in education at the UFS when one of their assignments was to research why some countries give free education and others not. She compared South Africa with New Zealand (about half SA’s population) and Japan (about 10 times SA’s population). Those two countries compared neck to neck on GDP per capita despite the difference in population numbers. Everything boiled down to incompetent governance, criminal nature of SA’s ruling party and a poor education system as reasons for a weak GDP. And she scored above 90% for her work. Much of it was based on the concerns of economists as was published in the media. And that includes everything, from absurd labour policies to political instability and everything in between. So, yes, a lot has been spoken out. But like I said, that knowledge is not what government is driven by…!?

Let me first say that I am very well university schooled in the study of economics.

Kobus, how did the GDP come about? Did it show care for the planet, in particular the green space which provides most of the oxygen and all of it when the sea dies?

I feel you are jumping all over the place.

What is your formal schooling?

Tha’s why you perhaps feel as if I am jumping around, for my focus is not purely on GDP as the causing factor of us killing the planet, but on the relationship the GDP has with the actual variables responsible for it.

The first place you look to when someone is all over the board on the subject of economics-politics Is their formal university schooling.

So I will ask it a different way. Where did you learn what you know about economics?

I also believe you purposely avoided answering my question from much earlier on about your knowledge of the origins of the GDP.

Even if you are well university schooled where if you “ate” [sic] conscious you quickly wake up to the horrors of the Gross Domestic Product economic index, it doesn’t prevent you from going to the library or asking Google.

What have you learned?

On your question about the origin of the GDP, no, I do not know, because I have not googled it..? However, I suppose the answer can be viewed from different perspectives, one that its origin is with the formation of our modern day economic model, or one that is as old as man himself if you consider trade a measure of a nation’s wealth, even if it wasn’t called a GDP back then..?

Perhaps you would like to enlighten me in this regard?

You haven’t named so far one individual who you say has a high IQ and has been speaking out against the GDP. Why is that?

You write that your focus is on the relationship the GDP has with the actual variables responsible for it.

What variables are responsible for the GDP?

Where do you get your knowledge about the Gross Domestic Product economic index?

Tomorrow will be the 49th anniversary of my first meeting with Mossad head, and first Prime Minister of Israel, David Ben Gurion who nearly 2 months later, as I was preparing to return to South Africa after a 3 month Ulpan-Gadna training, asked me for my assessment of what I had learned; and my answer, “Those who know, don’t talk; those who don’t, do all the talking; once you tell a secret, it is no longer a secret” had Ben Gurion chuckling followed by, “I may borrow your words in the future”.

Those were our last spoken words.

Kobus, your writings remind me a lot of my university economics professors who spoke a lot but said nothing that made any sense.

First, let me ask: What is your drift? Why is it so important to you that I name people with high IQ’s and exactly where I received my education? How is that relevant to the topic of discussion? Is the facts alone not sufficient?

When I write about “variables”as input, I refer to all labour and materials that produce the money value (outputs) we call the GDP. And as for this discussion about killing our planet and how it is connected to the GDP, input variables include what our planet” pays” to generate its monetary value, like excavations in mining and deforestation to develop expanding urban suburbs and industry…

Nevertheless, it looks like you are more interested in discussing me than the topic rather..?

People who have little knowledge have big egos and more likely to lie.

There wasn’t the Internet back then or anything close unless you were a leader of a superpower and willing to use your nuclear weapons to maintain the status quo which of course that hasn’t changed.

But we should not get ahead of ourselves even though going on 17 odd years ago, 11.11.2004 to be very precise I threw down the gauntlet for the originators of the insanely illogical, morally reprehensible GDP to come clean which followed my analysis of the arrogant human condition once discovering Professor Edward Jay Epstein’s epic 1978 non-fiction book The Diamond Invention which shuts everyone up; and it is free on The internet and you simply need to know how to use google to access.

You have yet to laugh it off with, lol, but you must be thinking of it.

I began 2 days ago, “How come there are so many people with high IQ and they are still destroying the planet?”

The character of a person is most important, and when they write trash, it is important to know what drives them.

Knowing someone’s background is critical in that assessment.

You may well be at the bottom of economic and intellectual pyramid, and yet given the power of the Internet you could very well influence the next generation to be even more stupid.

Let me now make a backup of this entire dialogue and place it up on my 2facetruth dot com BLOG.

As far as ego = 1/knowledge goes, it wasn’t me who boasted about my 46th aniversary with the prime minister and throwing down the gauntlet… I have been discussing the topic since the start. And now it is you who become offensive after I asked you why discuss me and not the topic..? I don’t know if you realize it makes you look like someone who made a statement on a platform where it is open for discussion, perhaps to make you look intelligent, but since you do not possess the intelect to debate the topic, you now play the man and not the ball..? And in that, I can quote Newton to you: We can calculate the orbits of heavenly bodies, but the stupidity of man even the gods struggle with!

On October 28, Thursday, at 7:37 PM Calif. time I began, “How come there are so many people with high IQ and they are still destroying the planet?”

The following day, at 2:43 PM, I see that you piped in for the first time, “The ones with the high IQ’s are not the rulers and policy makers. They have been speaking out and advising ever since…”

Yesterday, Saturday at 1:46 PM I responded, “Kobus PJ Van Staden name me one who has spoken out against the GDP?”

So Kobus PJ Van Staden we are talking about the Gross Domestic Product which has you providing two conflicting stories.

Let me now make a backup, just in case.

Have you heard of South African multi-billionaire Solly Krok?

You know that he didn’t hire you in August 1989 to do a review of his international holdings.

There is also good reason why 16 years later, early 2005, Krok first said to me, after not hearing from me in a decade when I did in mid 1995, a second most important assignment, this time in South Africa, on his behalf, “Gevisser, I should have listened to you” and nor did I first begin, “Solly, this is Gary …” because I simply said before his very true words, “Solly hello.”

Kobus PJ Van Staden, you would agree that your educational background and work experience go a long way in determining one’s credibility.

You will eventually tire of your bullshit, but in the meantime, others not so full of themself will hopefully learn not to imitate your horsehit.

Would you like to know more about another fb friend of mine, Israel Air Force Pilot, Lt. Colonel Tomer Tene who is Israel’s largest organic produce farmer?

I do not care about my background, neither about yours! I only care about the topic of discussion, which you are not doing..?

After all, I guess intellect will reveal itself once you start participating, don’t you think?

No less important are the following:

First, you know you have got caught in your lies when writing two contradictory statements about the GDP.

All humans who speak and write English know what the word “orgin” means.

Your initial writings are impossible to decipher.

You recall writing, “my focus is not purely on GDP as the causing factor of us killing the planet, but on the relationship the GDP has with the actual variables responsible for it”, making out like you know everything there is to know about the GDP.

Those “actual variables” caught my attention in part because you didn’t spell out what those important variables are and second, who was responsible for them?

Then you write as I explore more your bullshit, “On your question about the origin of the GDP, no, I do not know, because I have not googled it…”

Were you in a university lecture hall, you know that you would be the laughing stock even if everyone else was dumb, but not as dumb as you.

How are you doing in your research of Harry Oppenheimer, his father Sir Ernest Oppenheimer and Harry’s only son, Nick?

Perhaps you saw this one ad of mine

Does it interest you to know the reaction of Harry Oppenheimer and others most familiar with my accomplishments?

Also let me know when you want me to move beyond you not able to name one person with a high IQ who has spoken out against the GDP which is exclusively responsible for the destruction of the planet?

You of course would expect fb officials in addition to those who are fb friends of mine who are watching these events very closely.

Can you hang for another couple of hours while I take care of other matters?

Let me know when you figure out who stands the most to gain from war, civil unrest, refugee crisis one after the next in mineral rich regions of the world such as South Africa and the Congo?

Is Afrikaans your first language, or would you prefer at this time to be quiet?

Proverbs ~ It is better to be quiet and let people think you to be a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

I will admit, however, that I have been miss reading “orgin” (sic) for “origin” as the correct spelling I assume you intended is “organ”…?

As far as the university lecture hall filled with highly educated fools go, I laugh twice as hard for them laughing about a source of information when they are not willing to engage in debating the information itself..?

And once again you play the man and not the ball? What are you affraid of? I mean, someone as stupid as me should not be much of a threat to your ego, don’t you think?

BTW, if you really are that curious about my education in physics, why don’t you go ask prof. Randall D. Knigt of California yourself? We had an interesting discussion once about a new rocket launch concept of mine which utilize electomagnetic propulsion and creates its own wormhole in repelling air molecules (plasma), not to rip it apart, as it is launched at about 10k km/h and reaches the height of the ISS orbit with momentum alone without a drop of combustible fuel, which I am sure Elon’s engineers are looking into, because I have also posted the concept on an engineering site and got positive feedback…

In all my life, egoism never comes to mind. Only fear from those who always wish (and suggest) that I keep quiet presents itself…

You also know that the teacher of a self-taught person is a fool.

Nor are you in the least bit interested in an honest debate because you know you have lost not only the debate but the spark of life.

You will now live the remainder of your life living in the past and dreading the future or another way of saying the same thing, “fearful of the unknown”.

Again, after a while you are going to tire from continuous repeat of your nonsense.

You are a coward, let’s face it.

Did you serve in the Apartheid Regime’s military or police forces?

Have you ever written anything about the SA Oppenheimers profiting more than anyone else from both their Apartheid Regime and the no less puppet ANC which followed?