Jonathan Gevisser
Origin
Born:
Location: South Africa
Father: Leslie Gevisser
Mother:
Wife:
Uncle: David Gevisser
Cousins: Mark Gevisser, Anthony Gevisser, Peter Gevisser, John Gevisser
Children:
Religion: Jewish
Education
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Secondary:
College:
Politics
Correspondence
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 8, 2009 at 11:15pm
Hi Jonathan,
Are you related to the South African Gevissers?
cheers,
Adam
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 9, 2009 at 1:10am
Indeed, Adam,
i am a SA Gevisser, of which there a few branches!
Which of us do you know and how?
cheers
j
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 9, 2009 at 1:27pm
Hi Jonathan,
I actually just began a dialogue with Bernie Gevisser whose father Issy Gevisser was one of the founders of Moshal Gevisser which I read owned a company called ACME Timber that apparently owned “huge forests” in Natal, South Africa.
When I heard that Issy also owned priceless land in Hafia Harbor, Israel I wondered what Bernie was doing living in South Africa and not in Israel; which is actually where my parents met up in 1972 while my dad fought in the Yom Kippur war.
How are you related to Bernie who I understand fought in the second world war?
cheers,
Adam
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 9, 2009 at 10:58pm
Yes, Moshal Gevisser was the family firm. My grandfather, Morris Gevisser and his brother-in-law, Sol Moshal, along with Issy, Morris’ brother, were the founders. Bernie and my dad, Leslie, were first cousins and worked there almost all their working lives until it was sold under the table to Natie Kirsch who did the first asset strip in SA, dismantling in a few months what had taken generations to build..
Both Bernie and my dad fought in WW2. Bernie was a pilot who flew Spitfires. Wonderful man. I went to school with his kids.
Bernie lives in Melbourne now, near his daughter Kathy.
Where/who/how are you… and what’s your interest in all this??
Ciao
Jonny
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 11, 2009 at 8:58am
Jonny,
I am actually interested in getting to the bottom of how the US allowed the Apartheid regime to stay in power for so long.
Even though there were many Jewish people who lead opposition to the Apartheid, there were a great many Jewish people especially here in the US who were open supporters of the Apartheid regime beginning with Charles Engelhard Jr.
David Gevisser’s Bio
http://www.whoswhosa.co.za/Pages/profilefull.aspx?IndID=2993
While doing some research into Engelhard, the name David Gevisser came up beginning with him being named CEO of Engelhard’s South African operations in 1970 but there is no mention in David Gevisser’s bio of what he did before that led to him becoming CEO.
What is your relationship to David Gevisser? Would you know if David Gevisser was in fact connected to Moshal Gevisser?
Cheers,
Adam
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 11, 2009 at 10:21am
He is my uncle and worked at Moshal Gevisser at the start of his career. Yopu should contact him directly if you want more info. I don’t feel comfortable talking about him ‘behind his back’, asit were. Suffice to say, however, that he was an advisor to Kader Asmal when he was Minister of Water Affairs and Forestry in the first democratic government after 94.
Cheers
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 11, 2009 at 2:09pm
Interestingly enough I came across this email communication online between a Mark Gevisser that mentions Moshal Gevisser Group; is it correct to assume that Mark is DavidÂ’s son?
—– Original Message —–
From: Tefo Mohapi
To: Mark Gevisser
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:16 PM
Subject: Gevisser’sMark,
Knowing very well that what I’m about to ask you is most probably none of my business, I was just curious as to how much Thabo Mbeki knows about your family and it’s history.
More especially The Moshal Gevisser Group of Companies.
As I said, I’m just curious being a South African and knowing you to be quite articulate from reading what you have written.
Kgotso! (Peace)
Tefo Mohapi—– Original Message —–
From: Mark Gevisser
To: Tefo Mohapi
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Gevisser’sHi Tefo
Not quite sure how to take your question, or why you are asking it. I doubt Mbeki knows –or should know– anything about Moshal Gevisser except that his mother bought her goods wholesale from them for her trading store.
Mark
Mark Gevisser
Assuming this is DavidÂ’s son, Mark seems to be distancing himself and his father from Moshal Gevisser.
You say it was an “under the table” deal which is curious because it seems to have taken place a year or so before Mark’s father started to become very rich and then it turns out, based on additional reading that David Gevisser became the executor of Charles Engelhard’s estate when he died on March 2nd, 1971.
Apart from you, do you know why the Gevisser family would not want to talk about this major “stripping of assets”? Could it be that Engelhard had something to do with that “under the table” deal?
Do you know how can I reach David Gevisser?
Kgotso,
Adam
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 11, 2009 at 9:30pm
lots stories i grew up with re MG’s demise, replete with conspiracy theories, most especially around natie kirsch and sol moshal. i don’t recall an engelhard link though. my dad and Bernie were broken by the collapse of the firm and found themselves on the street, caps in hand looking for jobs. they never could get to the bottom of it.
old history, old wounds, that resulted in much suffering in our small branch of the family, shadowing our childhoods hugely.
lots to love!
onwards ho and kgotso indeed
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 12, 2009 at 9:20pm
I would like to send you some photos that I think you would appreciate.
Do you have a yahoo or gmail account that I can send them to?
Cheers!
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 12, 2009 at 10:13pm
adam, please desist.
seems you know gary well and so your knowledge of the family, especially bernie and david is probably similar to mine even greater, as gary has made a study of the chequered history, specifically around the sell-out of MG that badly efected his and our branch more than most…yet you made out you knew nada..
i’d rather call this quits, thanks.
good luck.