Murdered family
From: Gg
Date: January 23, 2012 8:49:34 AM PST
To: Shaul Preskel – שאול פרייסקל
Subject: Re: Have you asked your mother anything about her first cousins who were murdered?
I will now begin sharing with the world starting with my immediate family your most unbelievable story that I do not believe for one moment, at least the important aspects dealing with what your mother recalled when you told me she was of sound mind and then you went deafeningly silent
Send me now the communication where you have previously told me that your mother had no recollection of her murdered first cousin Pessiah Gevisser who would have been around 50 at the time the Nazis and their Vilnus Lithuanian collaborators murdered her and her entire immediate family all the while your mother escaped somehow from Vilnius and when the killing forests right outside we’re still damp with their blood your mother returned to Vilnius for another 20 years where she gave birth to you and no attempt to even write the story when it was so fresh in her mind let alone try and contact Pessiahs brothers in south Africa who were feeding all of them through a trader in kosnvo until of course he too may have been compromised
So important that we treat each moment as our legacy
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On Jan 21, 2012, at 1:43 PM, שאול פרייסקל
Look Gary!
You write me crazy stories.
I wrote you half year ago,and telling you last time,that my mother don’t remember
who is Pessiah Gevisser or Issy Gevisser, and for sure don’t know anything about lands.
Maybe my uncle,mother’s brother knew something,but he died 2 weeks ago.
Please disconnect yourself,and stop to disturb me and my children
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Gg
Did any of them survive the holocaust?
Have any of my family contacted you?
Are you aware of your mother having any role to play in the theft of her first cousin Pessiah Gevisser”s pricell Haifa harbor land which my grandfather Israel Issy Gevisser purchased before WW II and put in his sister Pessiah”s name?
If you heard that an Israeli lawyer stole the property and went to jail for the crime would you stop at that?
What if your daughter in law had as tight a bond as it got with ben Gurion who at the time of the theft was very much in charge of everything?
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November 6, 2010Gary Gevisser
Are we related?
My grandfather was Israel Issy Gevisser?
March 20, 2011Shaul Preiskel
My grandmother was Musia Gevisser.
As I know,she had relatives in South Africa
March 20, 2011Gary Gevisser
Your grandmother and my grandfather Israel Issy Gevisser were first cousins. Issy came to South Africa in 1904. I am the 4th child of Bernard Gevisser. I left South Africa for the US in 1978, one week before my 21st birthday. I will be 54 in 2 days.
I live with my French-Canadian wife in Del Mar, California. I am “sumwhat” (sic) of a writer.
What is your story?
March 20, 2011Gary Gevisser
Bernie who became a Fight-Bomber-Pilot during WW II, is the 2nd child of Issy who was married to Kate Sher who died at age 50 on June 8, 1945, just 54 days after my father completed his 71st dive-bombing mission in northern Italy.
March 20, 2011Shaul Preiskel
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March 20, 2011Gary Gevisser
I agree a picture tells a thousand stories. Where do you live, and what do you do?
March 20, 2011Shaul Preiskel
i am 63,married twice. I have a sun 34 years old,and a daughter 28.
I am in Israel almost 40 years. My mother Sara is 92 years old,and she is well yet. I had a sister,she died 10 years ago
I am construction engineer,and for last 3 years working in Moscow.
Every second weekend I am flying home.
2 month ago we visited our friends are living in Irvine,just your neighbors , How did you find me?
March 20, 2011Shaul Preiskel
i am 63,married twice. I have a sun 34 years old,and a daughter 28.
I am in Israel almost 40 years. My mother Sara is 92 years old,and she is well yet. I had a sister,she died 10 years ago
I am construction engineer,and for last 3 years working in Moscow.
Every second weekend I am flying home.
2 month ago we visited our friends are living in Irvine,just your neighbors , How did you find me?
March 20, 2011Gary Gevisser
We are both members of the Moshe Gevisser Offsprings Facebook site.
Where were you born?
Have you run into any of us Gevissers on your travels?
My mother Zena lives part of the year in Netanya.
I am in the process of publishing a book about “money” that is a little different to most.
March 20, 2011Shaul Preiskel
I and my mother were born in Vilna.
From 1920 my mother,2 brothers and grandies lived in Kovna(Vina then became Poland) After WW2 they return from evacuation to Vilna. Before the war in lithuania lived 220 th.jews. After the war left 16 thousands.
It will be nice to meet somebody from Gevisser family.
Mothers brother once built the root tree of the family. I need to find
at home that tree, and send you the copy
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March 20, 2011Shaul Preiskel
i am 63,married twice. I have a sun 34 years old,and a daughter 28.
I am in Israel almost 40 years. My mother Sara is 92 years old,and she is well yet. I had a sister,she died 10 years ago
I am construction engineer,and for last 3 years working in Moscow.
Every second weekend I am flying home.
2 month ago we visited our friends are living in Irvine,just your neighbors , How did you find me?
March 20, 2011Gary Gevisser
Are you familiar with this heartbreaking 2 page letter that was written by Shlomo to my grandfather on May 3rd, 1965?
Did you know Shlomo?
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March 20, 2011Shaul Preiskel
No,I am not,but I’ll speak with my mother. I suppose she knows.
March 20, 2011Gary Gevisser
Were you able to read that letter?
Do you know what happened to Issy’s sister Pessiah and the rest of the family?
How was your mother evacuated and not the others?
March 20, 2011Gary Gevisser
You can see what I have been doing over the past going on 11 years by reading first what I sent my father on his 77th birthday back on Oct. 18, 2000
and what I began broadcasting just before you contacted me.
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March 21, 2011Gary Gevisser
I see you accepted my invitation to be my FB “friend”. One of the things I find “interesting”, actually a little more than that is how no one in my very “busy body” South African family, who make out to the world that they are so “close knit” when in fact they are anything but that, have not sought you out and they are all very “active” on FB even they say they are, but then they don’t recall as well as me their behavior towards each beginning with all that was going on around us as kids growing up being so closely related to Issy Gevisser owned the “control block” of shares of an extraordinary multinational trading conglomerate which helped more than just his family Vilnius during the war and which is referenced rather clearly in that 2 page letter, but because Issy didn’t throw money around, left, right and center, they didn’t pay all that much attention to him, and nor did they think very much of his last job at Moshal Gevisser which was only second in importance to the job he had my father do, which was to be in charge of all the properties that Issy alone insisted be purchased for cash, which achieved a number of hugely significant objectives which I can get into if you are interested.
Can you tell me what you know about what happened to his sister Pessiah and her family?
Did anyone mention that Issy purchased priceless land in Haifa Harbor which he put in sister’s name when he visited with them in Vilnius back in 1929?
March 21, 2011Gary Gevisser
Shaul, I am only asking you what you were told about what happened to your grandmother’s first cousin Pessiah and her family that got wiped.
I am interested in any information no matter how irrelevant you might think it is. And if you don’t have any just let me know also. When you next speak with your mother you can ask her what she knows.
What I find most interesting is that a person who marries Pessiah’s daughter Divorah, made it his lifetime work to find out how each of them were murdered including his and Divorh’s baby daughter, and he remembered to thank my grandfather Israel Issy Gevisser, who had done more to help his family and a great many others which was not lost on those profiting from the murder of the 6 million, than simply allow his “favored” son to risk life and limb when volunteering to join Jan Smuts’ Air Force.
March 21, 2011Gary Gevisser
Do you recognize the shop?
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March 22, 2011Gary Gevisser
Shaul, are you still alive?
March 22, 2011Shaul Preiskel
I see the name,but Ican’t recognize the place. After the war everything became different. Is it in Vilnius?
March 23, 2011Gary Gevisser
It is Vilnius. It was taken at the same time as this photo below
when my grandfather Issy Gevisser visited Vilnius in 1929.
Do you remember your mother telling you anything about what happened to her first cousin Pessiah and her and Issy’s mother, Beila-Gitel who is seated in the photo?
Was there anyone else from the family who survived the Holocaust besides for your mom?
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March 25, 2011Gary Gevisser
On March 20 you let me know that you have known all these years that your mother had relatives in South Africa, which means you had relatives in South Africa.
You brought two children into this world. Did they never ask you what happened to your relatives in Vilnius who were not evacuated in time.
Was there a rift between the family?
Which side of the family cooperated with the Nazis, those murdered or those left behind?
Do have any idea what my family beginning with Israel Issy Gevisser went through when contact was lost and he assumed EVERYONE had been wiped out?
You know perfectly well I never asked you what your mother who you say is doing well at 92 knows, I am asking you what you know.
You also know that my father Bernie who is well into his 88th year is fully compos mentis even when he feigns otherwise. He should know about all this, don’t you think?
It smells very fishy, the theft of the priceless land in Haifa Harbor as well.
Your mother should be told that I am alive, fit and well, even if I end predeceasing you all, as this is your legacy and that of your children and relatives.
It is all about who knew what and when and what you did about it.
April 3, 2011Gary Gevisser
Have you had an opportunity to speak with your mother?
April 12, 2011Gary Gevisser
Do you know what happened to Shlomo?
Can you imagine what it must have been like for him to return to Vilnius and find his entire immediate family including my grandfather’s sister Pessiah and her daughter Divorah and his and Divorah’s young child, Bebele who was born in 1936, all murdered?
But he never mentioned anything about your grandmother, your mother surviving and then producing you?
Not that many of the Jewish people of Vilnius, survived. Why wouldn’t he have mentioned you all given how he wrote that heartbreaking letter on May 3rd, 1965 when you were all still living in Vilnius?
Look again at his words following the gruesome discovery,
“I then developed an obsession to find out what happened to every single one of them up to their last day and how each of them died. I made extensive enquiries from survivors and gathered details of each member of the family and how they met their end. Each detail hurt, but I undertook the task as a labor of love. Should I tell you here everything I learn’t? Are you prepared to hear it all?”
Shlomo, the odds are that Shlomo spoke to your mother.
I wouldn’t take any comfort in the silence of my South African family at this time and that includes all those 17 members of the Moshe Gevisser Offspring on Facebook, because I can prove to you that they are all about money, and not thinking for a single moment that you and your mother have suffered enough, as much as they might protest otherwise.
What have you told your two children?
April 12, 2011Shaul Preiskel
My mother lived in Kaunas up to 1940.
Then she married to Estonian jew,and relocated to Tallin.
In 1941 germans came not so quickly to the north,and she run away to east with my sister,3 month old.
Her father went to the army,and didn’t come back. After the war, in 1945 my mother came back with her parents Moshe Kantor & Musia Geviser to Vilnius. My mother have married again and I was born in 1948.
Gary!
Before the war in Vilnius and Kaunas every third person was a jew.
220-240 th. jews lived in Lithuania,and 16 th. left.
Most of them were murdered from the hands of lithuanians.
That what I told to my children.
I understand your obsession,unfortunately,the world tired to hear such storries,everyone want to live their life and forget.
I send you a part of Gevisser family tree,once was prepared mother’s brother and my uncle Boris Kantor.
It will help you understand little bit more our place in big family Gevisser.
Gary!
I can’t to send you a family tree 2 files.
Please send me your e-mail.
April 12, 2011Gary Gevisser
Have you asked your mother about Shlomo?
Have you shown her the photo of our 42. B.GEVISERIS 42 shop in Vilnius?
I care nothing about people who come up with the lame excuse that they are “tired”, because they are lying through their teeth. They are simply profiting from the murder of the best of us Jewish people. They should all be exposed, so that the next generation of children can be afforded the opportunity to start out on a clean slate.
My email address is gary@2facetruth.com
Ps – Allow me the opportunity to share my “findings” with both your children, and maybe they will have a greater sense of urgency knowing that despite the most unforgivable attempts to prevent me from getting the information out there, it is in their interest to understand that my information is getting out there, and those who have profited from the murder of the poor and most independent minded of all peoples, namely us Jewish people, are beginning to finally run scared as the crooks perfectly understand the problems of the world have nothing to do with race, color or religion but greedy and lazy people wanting to hold on to the information which is power.
Today, this very moment, that power is moving into the hands of the losers of this genocidal war on the poor, and in the next moment we can all experience peace and prosperity.
Each one of us has that light speed power to communicate as one and as we combine the bad will see themselves as the odd man out.
April 24, 2011Gary Gevisser
What is taking you so long to ask your mother such an important question, “Do you remember Shlomo or his wife Divorah and their child Bebele?”
May 25, 2011Gary Gevisser
It seems the past is too painful or unimportant for all of you.
I have asked your daughter, but maybe you are better qualified to help me set up my website 2facetruth.com in Israel?
January 21Gary Gevisser
Did you get my email?
