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Subject: President Roosevelt was given little choice ~ they return to their pitiful lives

Date: May 20, 2019 at 12:51:49 PM PDT

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Give them something to hate and they’ll be happy

It takes the focus away from the pitiful lives

It prevents them from hating themselves; but it is only for a few minutes and then they return to their pitiful lives

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Jason Nelson

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The #1 cause of divorce is capitalism.

Denise Ward, Neal Jones and 33 others

59 Comments

Tommy Simpson Nope. Marriage is.

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Kelly Schaefbauer It seems like you blame everything negative on capitalism.

Andrew Osagie replied

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William Dechant most marital arguments are over money. <3

William Dechant replied

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Bill Ashton Another stupid post

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Sears L Barnett Jr. replied

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Duane Czaicki In my realm every divorce that I know of has been because of infidelity. Good marriages handle financial hardships but they rarely get past someone who cheats.

Duane Czaicki replied

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Cathy Heyworth Harris Probably correct

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Nataliya Mulyar Please stop posting provocative posts! Capitalizm is not a state of any country

Peter Van Elslander replied

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Charles Howard Hartman Give us a ’25-words-or-less’ definition, Jason Nelson, please?

Jason Nelson replied

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Harold Velez Maybe but not much. It’s our fucked social values.

Ben Stillwell Oh, I thought it was marriage.

Jim Anderson Without capitalism, I would be living with my parents.

Jason Nelson replied

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Michael Webber Your primary premise is questionable.

You have assumed that all relationships need to last a lifetime and that if they don’t something is wrong. …See More

Kyle Meyer Isn’t that the main reason for marriage to

Gary Gevisser Title: Test reasoning skills

Jason Nelson your initial thing is on the mark but then you move off on tangents

It is always good to know if the people involved in a discussion about money-economics have been formally schooled at an accredited university in the study of economics.

Have any of you received such training?

Often people feel stupid that they didn’t attain from a group of economics professors such information which would allow them in their youth, as I did, the chance to test their professors as well as their own reasoning skills.

By the time you turn 25 when your mind has yet another half a dozen years to mature and you have not had such an experience, it is very difficult to get your self-confidence back and this lack of self confidence can stay with you the rest of your life

It is exacerbated if you are over say 25 and find out that the professorship establishment has got you totally fooled.

So don’t despair once you find out that great professors of economics such as Friedman and Samuelson got it all wrong and so did the rest of them who guide students of economics.

All you have to do is set your ego aside for just a moment and once you have the knowledge, if you have held on to your pride such as your looks and body you can approach any professor of economics and have them quiet in the next moment and then move on to your children, grandchildren and great grandchildren letting them know you are one of the first pioneers to get the ball rolling.

So let’s start with everyone being intellectually honest with their professional credentials in the study of economics and then for those who don’t already know I will direct them [to] Professor Edward J Epstein’s The Diamond Invention book and when Epstein realized who he was talking to he shut down.

Jason Nelson My credentials: 10 years of economic issuance and distribution. To be clear, that’s not 10 years of education. It is 10 years of real world experience.

Lonnie Warren Sr Jason Nelson I love that!

Gary Gevisser Page 2 ~ Test the reasoning skills

Jason Nelson, you were clear.

Let me bring in my good friend, economist Dr Rodney Smith Phd who was schooled in economics at one of the best schools, University of Chicago where I believe Nobel winner Milton Friedman was one of his professors.

In addition to his stellar academic credentials Dr Smith Phd has the ear of the world’s most sophisticated money-oil-water billionaires, the Bass Brothers of Texas.

That does not mean Dr Smith Phd is unaware of his way around the Experimental Economics Department at very rich private Chapman University here in Southern California whose head Dr Vernon Smith Phd is the 2002 Nobel prize winner.

Nor was it because Dr Rod Smith Phd thought either myself or my exquisite F-C (Française -Canadienne) wife Marie Dion who jumped 2 classes in high school, not because of her perfect straight long legs but because of her over the top command of mathematics-logic, were totally stupid that he invited my wife and me back in May 2015 to meet with Dr Vernon Smith Phd and his top professor echelon.

Another credential of Dr Rodney Smith Phd besides for us working intimately over the past 18 years where our negotiation skills as well as integrity have been put fully to the test as we also have exposed the top politicians here in California who went on to commit voter fraud in the upcoming November 2002 California Gubernatorial elections which had incumbent Gray Davis “winning” another term, is that not long after getting his academic credentials behind him, he joined America’s most prestigious military Think Tank RAND Corporation which no matter your bias they do not hire fools.

Perhaps Dr Smith Phd will decide this is as good a time as any since none of us is getting any younger to join this conversation which, given my knowledge it is much more than possible it could go viral and shut down all other economic-political-military-religious even sex conversation.

So let’s see what encouragement the rest of you can give Dr Rodney Smith Phd

Jason Nelson What economic system did Dr Rodney Smith Phd create?

Gary GevisserTitle: Given little choice

Jason Nelson you are deflecting. You know that is not the right question you should be asking.

I didn’t come close to suggesting that Dr. Rod Smith Phd. or Dr. Vernon Smith Phd or myself for that matter created an economic system.

You should either be finding one well formally schooled economist amongst your FB friends or other friends and family members or you should be asking me questions, such as, “How can the author of a book such as The D I book which is so interesting reading and you never hear it spoken about by the ‘conspiracy theorists’ or the mainstream politicians-media and yet its author Epstein who writes editorials for the Wall Street Journal and has professorships at several of our Ivy League universities, shuts down? So please explain?”

Another possible question, “I have combed my FB friends looking for a seasoned economist to debate you but for the life of me I cannot get one of them to respond, could you Gary Gevisser explain to me and all of us why Epstein-DAAC would make this one of a kind book free on The Internet?”

Let me share with you I was born and raised for the first 21 years of my life in mineral rich South Africa and before I completed my university economic studies and almost immediately began, after immigrating to the United States on March 17, 1978, one week shy of my 21st birthday, my year long orientation into the monopolist of monopolists, banking-mining cartel De Beers-Barclays whose top officials laugh a lot when they hear the people-policiticians-media-left wing PBS-right wing Rush Limbaugh use the word “capitalism” because the business practices of De Beers-Anglo American Corporation-Bank of England-Lloyd’s of London-Barclays Bank make a total and complete mockery of “capitalism”, I had figured, without reading in a book or someone telling me, “Those who know, do not talk; those who don’t, do all the talking; once you tell a secret, it is no longer a secret.”

Those 24 word important facts of life is obviously not intuitive amongst the talkers.

It was getting towards the end of December ’72 when I was still 15 years of age and just completing a 4 month Ulpan-Gadna training, my words were first spoken to Mossad head, David Ben Gurion [1886-1973] who for very good reason is considered at height 4 feet 11 inches, the General of Generals by those who would know.

You cannot really pay much attention to people who don’t know and who don’t really want to learn and so they deflect, diffuse etc etc.

You can see that I have continued to add more people to this discussion and surely sooner or later someone who has studied economics at a reputable university would be willing to “stick their neck out”?

It is of course a very risky venture to present your economic qualifications in a public forum such as this and be totally certain that you won’t have a leg to stand on if you refuse to either discuss the business practices of De Beers-Barclays who have owned the world’s drilling industry since the turn of the last century following their victory in the Anglo “American” Boer War [1899-1902], where 90% of the transactions are “off balance sheet” and the remaining 10% are 100% influenced by the 90% and/or Epstein’s The Diamond Invention book which of course spells it all out rather well; and the few gaps in this page-turner book, for good reason I can fill in which has everything to do with why Epstein immediately shut down once he knew who I was.

Suffice to say, again for those who don’t know, my formal introduction to De Beers-Barclays who were the principal armament and financial backer of Nazi Germany

https://edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap9.htm

was directly supervised by their head Harry Oppenheimer, who you are made aware of very quickly in The D I book, chapter 1, A RELUCTANT TYCOON.

https://edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap1.htm

Of course President Franklin D. Roosevelt perfectly understood what Oppenheimers-De Beers were up to because the OSS, the forerunner to the CIA, made him fully aware of their open and egregious treason and Roosevelt tried, when he was given little choice, but to issue a Presidential Order demanding that the head of De beers-Anglo American Corporation [DAAC] Harry Oppenheimer’s father, Sir Ernest Oppenheimer stockpile 6.5 million carats of industrial diamonds on US soil which resulted in Oppenheimer giving Roosevelt, US Congress and at the US Supreme Court the “middle finger”; and nor did that stop the Oppenheimers from continuing to supply Hitler with industrial diamonds out of the Allied protectorate Belgian Congo using top officials of the Red Cross as couriers.

It is also no secret that I know personally a great many more economists than Dr. Rodney Smith Phd and Dr. Vernon Smith Phd and his top team at Chapman University.

Remember the goal here is to make this discussion go viral which I am assuming you would want as much as me.

So why not join me in tagging people given how money-economics we can all agree fully takes over when the love has left the relationship and the money-love first in the relationship ESPECIALLY if you see one of the couple beautiful like the South African Princess of “Monarco” [sic] and her fat, ugly husband Prince Albert.

You can also imagine that our sun could burn itself out before anyone can mount a counterargument to my knowledge.

Do not however, be all that surprised if people in order to hold on to mind attempt to laugh it all off.

Stephen Talbot, Stephen Berkowitz, Steve Saylor, Denise Ward, Denise Garner Gibson, Dee Howard, Pierre Menard, Victor Silver who was on the 4 month Ulpan-Gadna training with me in ’72 at Ben Gurion’s kibbutz, Sde Boker, Negev Desert, Alec Boswijk still out in the wildness, Alan Brody South African filmmaker, Alan Kantor, Alan Movson, Alan Noche, David Azzini, David Goldman, Graham Bell, Mark Goldes, Susan Munro, La Casina Di Alice, Thomas Holmes former New York State Judge, Lawrence W. Nelson US Navy SEAL Commander.

Matt Schaefer, Matt Lavine, Christina Moritsch-Krall, Michael Ditz, Micha-el Frame, Gidon Frame, Nadine Fels Frame, Nick Sternberg, Tish Vorster, Erik Holman, Hazel Freed, Neil De Gouveia, Nina Senčar, Michael Rodd, Michael Burts, Marjorie Joanne Telasco, Roch Chouinard former head of acquisitions for the Canadian Federal Government overseeing 25 financial analysts, Kim Gerity Dolce, Kim Braman, Dennis MulliganDel Mar real state investor, Neal Jones, Beth Isaacs, Jane Beth Cantor,Lionel H. Phillips, Robin McMillen, Rich Nagan, Diane Aimar Hewson, Foster Gamble, an heir of the Proctor Gamble fortune and producer/director/actor THRIVE, Lt. Colonel Israel Air Force, still an active duty reconnaissance pilot and Israel’s largest organic produce farmer.

Matt Schaefer Gary Gevisser I’m a Capitalist, and I’ve never been divorced. Of course, I’ve never been married either!

Gary Gevisser Matt Schaefer I notice that you have spoken but yet to provide your formal training in the study of economics-money.

I take it that you are not the only person noticing that Im encouraging others to come forward and keep the conversation tight and to just say that you are a “capitalist” does not mean you know the first thing about capitalism and hence why I encourage everyone including those who I have studied and worked with to come forward.

Matt Schaefer Gary Gevisser then don’t tag me on your post. I owe you nothing.

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Gary Gevisser Matt Schaefer your answer you know would not win you top prize in a logic contest.

All you have to do is find just one more formally schooled than you student of economics to join this conversation and then there will be no need [f]o[r] either personal attacks or distractions.

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Matt Schaefer Gary Gevisser why did you tag me in the first place?

Gary Gevisser Matt Schaefer, I know it is daunting to find out when you already have gray hair or already balding that you don’t know the first thing about how the capitalist system actually works and yet the thing you have mostly discussed over your lifetime is money and all that surrounds the money such as government spending, raising taxes, court judgments, cost of food, housing, TESLAs, Musk’s rockets, government subsidies, sponsorship of help programs for the poor domestically and internationally.

Matt Schaefer Gary Gevisser nevermind. Goodbye.

Gary Gevisser Matt Schaefer, I do mind because your closed mind might reach others who decide that they not only want the knowledge but feel good about sharing it.

Martha Dixon, Anna Zaikin, Wendy Ann Boumanmy high school history teacher and former RAG queen, Colin Wight, Colin Schachat, Michele Aufrichtig, Ryan Aufrichtig, Bob Gilfoy, Linda Licht, Linda Rothbart Shein, Linda Cesari, Ben Brackeen, Vadim Xomenko highly educated internatioinal Russian lawyer, now an investment banker.

Vanessa Chris Sommerlad, Michelle B Dagan, Chemise Michelle, Jenny Tucker, Heidi Pretorius, Colleen Nicola Muskat, Larry Burnett, Andrews Peter, Tony Knight, Trent Hancock, Yvette Mason

Gary Gevisser Is everyone noticing that not only is time marching on but my FB friend count has noticeably increased since this conversation began in earnest?

Look how easy it is for everyone to comment on pretty much anything that comes to mind and yet you all see that no one is even willing to hazard a guess as to why Epstein’s epic non-fiction book The D I is still available free on The Internet after future clients of mine Simon & Schuster first published it in 1982.

Tony Knight Bollocks!

Charles Buchan Money fights and money problems….I always thought it was marriage though. 😜

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Gary Gevisser Jason Nelson, I see you have removed my posts and those belonging to others. You will soon find a backup on the 2facetruth.com BLOG.

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Jason Nelson That’s fine. The format is not appropriate for my wall, you can do whatever you want with your version.

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Gary Gevisser Jason Nelson in what way is it not appropriate; the conversation centers around capitalism.

If you haven’t fooled yourself, you most certainly haven’t fooled the rest including those who are now our mutual FB friends.

Shame on you.

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Gary Gevisser Jason Nelson, do you have an email I can use to send you a backup?

I was also just about to add the following names to the conversation when you decided to play censor which was par for the course in Apartheid South Africa:

Ann Kroeber, Jennifer Bruyns Neethling, Henry William McCarter, Stan Milc, Stan Sarah Katz, Abdou Dampha, Shane Andries, Patricia Herrera, Patrick N. Mcguire, Meon Saor, Slade Vegas, Nicole Gawronsky, Hazel Rosen, Hazel Freed, South African-British solicitor Ray Oshry Esq. who was also on Ulpan-Gadna training in ’72 at Ben Gurion’s kibbutz Sde Boker, Jean Edelstein Gaylis, the same with Jean.

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Jason Nelson The format is not appropriate. Spam tagging and multi-paragraph canned responses and such. Change the format to something more conducive to the platform and I’ll keep the posts.

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Gary Gevisser Give me an example of “change the format”?

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Gary Gevisser Do you think any of our 18 mutual friends would be embarrassed by your lack of articulation-reasoning?

15m

Jason Nelson The format you are currently using is just fine. Well done.

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Gary Gevisser Imagine if all 18 and their other FB friends decided they couldn’t keep quiet?

What bothers you is that you can’t defend capitalism when you have such a powerful banking-mining monopolist able to give the President of the United States in the midst of the most bloody war the “middle finger”.

Andrew Osagie

Bonota Rbe Ubuntu Taruaeaki

Denise Ward

J Keegan Quinn

Joanne Kopp

Jodian Rodgers

Kerron Craig Walker

Kirsty Nicholson

Lydia Marshall

Mandy Moore

Mathew Eddy

Michael E. V. Knight

Natasha Melko

Nelson Guedes

Patrick N. Mcguire

Raymond Bayoud

Ryan Weeks

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Gary Gevisser Wait a second, Jason are you saying that “tagging” is what you have a problem with?

FB encourage tagging of one’s FB friends which is why they allow it.

You not only removed those I had tagged and you notice how quiet they are, and THEY ARE MY FRIENDS, and understand perfectly what is going on, but you removed my posts which explain so well both my credentials and knowledge.

How can that sit well with you as well as everyone else unless you are all totally corrupt and still you have to deal with the self-inflicted brain injury.

Again, check out my BLOG.

Gary Gevisser Jason Nelson, please reconsider your position.

You have a very long life ahead of you and this can only bring you regrets.

You are stopping the flow of critical information.

You are acting no different to De Beers-Barclays except that they are not yet paying you and increasingly unlikely to do so.

Gary Gevisser Jason Nelson, you realize that you still haven’t explained this nonsense “The format is not appropriate. Spam tagging and multi-paragraph canned responses and such.”

“Canned responses”?

You know that you are kidding.

Would you say my 4 articles published in the Jerusalem Post immediately after the treason pardon of DAAC terrorist financier Marc Rich was a “canned response”?

https://www.2facetruth.com/…/letters-published-by-the…/

Gary Gevisser Jason Nelson, I am not sure that I have as many other mutual FB friends with anyone else, and you can see how quickly that number would grow if you allowed it by simply letting the people learn from someone who has the knowledge and knows how to write.

Remember we are not FB friends.

[Jason Nelson then removed the page from FB]

President Roosevelt was given little choice ~ they return to their pitiful lives

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