Remember this – September 30, 2018, 4:21pm

Sonja Arnold Oh yes

Glen Lauwrens My favourite!

Alan John Goodall Used to love eating them

Carmela Kingsley-Jones Loved them

Catherine Palmer Loved them

Fred Moller

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Denise Ann Christianson spar still sells these.

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Marilyn Anne Du Plooy Loved them

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Rasheed Butler This ice cream was known as WAFER. ESKIMO PIE was chocolate coated. a luxury by the wafer standard

Wendy Payze Yes I do,we are visiting my son in Sussex and if you go to Aldi or Iceland not sure which supermarket you get a half chocolate/vanilla wafer .

Yatish Bipulprasad Loved it. Also Banana boy

Duncan Sanderson Eish

Sharon Ormshaw Oh wow yes!!

Cheryl Powell Loved it

Sandra Muller Look at the size too – yummy.

Gill Ramsden Wafer .. I preferred Eskimo pie it was coated on chokkkkie ….

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Melanie Jagger Mmmm love this

Gary Gevisser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X6syRw62Bc

Glen Sol Delish they just don’t make them anything like walls ice cream when I was a kid

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Gary Gevisser

Gary Gevisser Glen Sol, you have seen several other photos but not the one above, unless you have been very busy researching my writings which you also told me you had done many years ago.

Common sense says that you have not been sleeping all this time; and perhaps also thinking that I will move on to other things and forget our conversations including all the very public support you have been giving the Beare family of Durban.

You can see that I am now getting exponential growth of FB friends from this wonderful DDML.

I also know about “traction” which is important in monetizing a website, especially for “money me hungry” people which of course is most of the world and no doubt the overwhelming majority of FB users.

“Getting rich quick” is what all poorly conditioned children, both rich, poor and in-between, think is the way to happiness; and who wants to end up dead in the grave, 6 feet under, and only getting rich when the ants are done with you, and only then to begin enjoying the luxuries of life such as beautiful getaway castles dotted all over Europe, private game reserves wherever wild animals still run wild, fleet of Lear Jets and of course both a super giant yacht with its own helicopter pad.

BTW, have you thought that it is only a coincidence that the two single biggest names in gambling throughout the world are two Durbanites, my cousin Martin Moshal who controls at least a third of Internet gambling and, Sol “Gambling Czar” Kerzner whose parents’ Minorah Hotel is where my mother Zena and her parents first stayed at when arriving in Durban; and their first stop from England on the Southampton Castle had them staying for two weeks at the 5 star Mt. Nelson Hotel where South African General Smuts kept a suite where he met with his most private guests.

Imagine if your parents couldn’t afford toys or for that matter buying you friends to play with, and you also lived in Johannesburg, wouldn’t you go out either your front or back door and start playing on the gold dump sights dotted throughout the City of Gold?

It would be like ploughing down the great dunes of the Sahara or The Great Dune of Pyla

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Gary Gevisser

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Gary Gevisser After a while each gold dump looked alike, but still they would all be slightly different and each as much fun as the next.

As you got older, getting close to abstract age, about 10-11 for girls, and year or two later for boys, you might ask your parents and teachers, “Who owns these dumps, and why don’t they charge like an amusement park?”

Actually, you might think of another question.

When I first flew over Johannesburg on my first trip to Israel in May 1966

those gold dumps is what you saw as far as the eye could see and then when traveling elsewhere, I never saw anything like it, nothing even close.

When I heard that a “nobody” Natie Kirsh had bought Moshal Gevisser, a public corporation which my grandfather Israel Issy Gevisser ]c.1890-1970] owned the control block, along with my father Bernie who was also a director, and paid significantly less than the value of the company that again he simply “asset stripped” and which my grandfather and father could have just have easily hired a second rate, totally bum auctioneer to execute, I thought about the DAAC’s involvement especially since their “control partner” was none other Charles W. Engelhard Jr. who was not only our “strategic partner” in ACME TIMBER INDUSTRIES which is what we started, but Engelhard Jr. was very much alive, and unquestionably the richest and most powerful person on the planet and not one to let go of a very strategic asset.

Since I knew that my grandfather and father couldn’t fully explain what had happened, I saw fit to ask around the leaders of the Durban Jewish community, and at this time Jonathan Beare was also a “nobody”.

I chose not enquire amongst the poorest of us Jewish people or the poorest of the non-Jewish Durban community because that would have been stupid.

I went to the richest, starting with those such as yourself in real estate.

You mentioned that your mother owned country hotels for years and Issey Geshen was her partner and that she also owned race horses which were her passion, and how your parents became close personal friends of Charles W. Engelhard Jr. and his wife Jane as well as the Oppenheimers, Harry and Brigot and that you grew up with their children, Mary and Nick

who I have never met, but that didn’t mean his father Harry ever forgot me.

Don’t get me wrong. Im not suggesting that I went to you who when I began my enquiries in earnest back in 1972, you would have been all of 22 years age and nor was your name Alan Benn or his partner Gerald Hackner who was our next door neighbor.

Both Gerald and Alan as you well know by 1972 were the biggest players in Durban real estate as they were the main principals of Isaac Geshen, and probably, but not necessarily a connection with Issey Geshen.

Why look elsewhere when the grass all around you is perfectly fertile?

I would play the card game Klobbias every Saturday afternoon with Alan Benn all the way through my university years. Only once, shortly after I returned from a 4 month Ulpan-Gadna training at Mossad head, David Ben Gurion’s kibbutz Sde Boker, Negev Desert, did I ask Alan, “Why didn’t anyone put in a competitive bid for Moshal Gevisser’s mortgage free real estate that Natie Kirsh was paying significantly less than its value?”

Alan Benn didn’t answer, and I knew he heard my question.

I had also done considerable investigative work before asking that most important question, and I had a strong suspicion that he could not answer truthfully without dissapointing me; and I saw no reason to make him feel any more uncomfortable.

At 15 I was no longer playing in the sandbox, but I hadn’t forgotten all those gold dumps which all pointed to the DAAC.

The DAAC knew mining and timber, and so why didn’t people interested in getting rich quickly in real estate, just knock on Harry Oppenheimer’s door and ask for a low cost loan?

When I met Jonathan Beare for the first time in Los Angeles, just days after he purchased the most exclusive, most sought after Century City Shopping Center, bordering Beverly Hills and office towers housing the biggest brand name lawyers, accountants, real estate developers, etc etc, I did not ask him, “Why don’t you get your money from the DAAC and have someone like Natie Kirsh be your frontman?”

The first thing I did was say, “Nice to meet you” as I got into his small station wagon vehicle which was not horse-drawn because it was now in the very early 1980s and I had yet to move from San Diego to LA which only took place in 1982 when I got the cushiest job in the world working in Beverly Hills, just watching beautiful women buy beautiful garments which always look better on beautifully bodied women, Im sure you would agree.

As we move the clock forward 24 years to JB and my meeting in Beverly Hills on January 13, 2005, JB and I had many conversations and meetings throughout the world and the most notable was when I ran into him at the 5 star Regent Hotel in Hong Kong back in March 1989 on my first trip to the Far East when after Hong Kong I went on to mainland China which JB would have liked to join me, but he was traveling on a South African passport which was not considered Kosher by the communist Chinese.

Even at that last meeting when he became unglued and threatening, and never previously had we come close to having an argument given how JB valued my “risk assessment” skills, I never brought up, “Were you smoking Durban Poison in Amsterdam and thinking you weren’t being closely observed by the DAAC?”.

All I did was point him to one very small section of chapter 18 of The D I book.

Glen Sol, would you or anyone else like to know which section exactly?

BTW, for those of you, who are mostly South African, at least at this time, as this DDML is getting lots and lots of traction, and something people who are hiding prefer is limited to distracting political talk, porn, internet games and gambling, below are two hyperlinks taking you to very informative New York Times feature story of March 19, 1989, aptly titled, HARRY OPPENHEIMER’S EMPIRE: GOING FOR THE GOLD

https://www.2facetruth.com/harry-oppenheimers-empire…/

https://www.nytimes.com/…/harry-oppenheimer-s-empire…

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Diane Goldstein Lidl’s sell these with half wafer half chocolate

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Myfanwy Murray Now that’s the best of both worlds… Yum!

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Mike Scott-Hayward and the Eskimo Pies!

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Engela Swanepoel Was my favourit

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Anne Monk Ate the chocolate and vanilla and threw the strawberry away

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Lennox van Rooyen Yummy lekka Eskimo Pie

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Dawn Shawcross Oh yes.

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Sheila Mercer My favourite I wish they would make them again.

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Arthur Vorster Loved them

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Jenny Jagles A wafer Ice cream

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Isabella Ralphs Oneof my favourite ice creams also loved umbrella ice cream cant remember the proper name for it, such happy memories!

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DeAnne Dawson My favourite!?

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Brenda Watt That looks yummy remember this so well.

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Joanne Schmitt Yum

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Julie Pieterse Rowland My favorite

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Sonja Pernisch Philip Oh yes!

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Patricia Green I want one now

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Rosemary Lange Yes lovely.

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Justine Alley Didnt know that this was an SA thing. Must have been before my time. They still make them in NZ. Call them an ice cream sandwich.

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Diane Goldstein We get them here in UK

At a supermarket called Lidl.half wafer / half covered in chocolate so you get best of both worlds

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May Dorothea Margaret Jack We used to get these at Tes from the vendor there. My family used to laugh at the way I ate them. I would lick the ice-cream out from all four sides to form a little pouch and then nibble away slowly. Took an age to eat but it prolonged the treat.

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Jean Stubbs I know Wall’s made them but I can only remember them been vanilla flavoured ice-cream. Love them and Eskimo Pies.

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Athol Bremner When the wafer was wet from melted icecream it became chewy

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May Dorothea Margaret Jack Let the good times roll.