To be honest ~ December 14, 2020 through January 26, 2021
Screenshot 4:28 PM Calif. time, January 26, 2021
FACEBOOK group chat, To Be Honest [TBH]
December 14, 2020; 8:48 AM throught January 26, 2021
You sent Today at 12:16 PM
What did we do before handhelds? What did we say to each other at coffee shops or at restaurants where you are supposed to enjoy both the company and the food?
You sent Today at 12:17 PM
You see how easily we are swayed by the easy stuff.
You sent Today at 12:18 PM
It is much more difficult to stay in shape not by pushing weights but much more importantly eating healthy than it is to change the color of your hair and wear bracelets on your arms to hide the fat swaying in the wind of the upper arms. Beverly-Anne Cooper Matus left the group.
You sent Today at 12:19 PM
Political correctness must of course begin with knowing the history of mineral rich regions of the world and quick to shut down most of all Jewish opposition.
You sent Today at 12:20 PM
Let’s see if Jewish South African Beverly-Anne Cooper Matus whose family owned, with investment I believe from Solly Krok, a man’s clothing shop in Beverly Hills, also had a nervous twitch. You added Beverly-Anne Cooper Matus to the group.
You sent Today at 12:22 PM
So what happens when you miss the fundamentals of something as important as the introduction of communism as a political movement?
You sent Today at 12:22 PM
Does it stop you from shopping until you drop?
You sent Today at 12:24 PM
Unlikely, because it is likely to exacerbate your consumerism because you are paying that much more attention to the TV telling you that consumerism is good for the economy and what is good for the economy is good for everyone according to trickle down economic theory.
You sent Today at 12:24 PM
How do you get the entire First World to ignore the contradiction of healthy economy and health of the planet?
You sent Today at 12:26 PM
First, you breed people like Steven Bailey and 8 billion others, concentrate them into cities and give them jobs which don’t require any thinking. Beverly-Anne Cooper Matus left the group.
You sent Today at 12:27 PM
Second, you tell them that their vote counts even if more than 50% of the population don’t vote.
You sent Today at 12:27 PM
Third, you get money into the hands of the most obedient; namely real estate speculators.
You sent Today at 12:28 PM
Why do you think it is that there are a disproportionate number of Jewish real estate developers?
You sent Today at 12:29 PM
Developers need architects as much as they do government officials willing to take bribes.
Why do you think there is a disproportionate number of Jewish architects, lawyers, medical doctors and the such?
You sent Today at 12:58 PM
Do you think us Jewish people are inherently stupid or that the “Powers that be” Oppenheimers focus on the least questioning of us Jewish people starting with our Jewish religious? If you are going to go I am told that kidney failure is like going to sleep slowly, much akin to a butaine release. Again check with your medical practicioner should it be of interest.
You sent Today at 1:00 PM
Again, any animal that cannot figure out on their own the absurdity of the GDP index that is so easy to get your head around, is most likely to miss the Big Picture of us being here.
You sent Today at 1:01 PM
Why do we keep asking what we are doing here as all we mostly see is the destruction of nature?
You sent Today at 1:02 PM
How can you begin to call yourself a conscious being when you see nature being dozed for excessive development to sustain a growing population to feed the GDP which promotes greater consumerism and overpopulation?
You sent Today at 1:03 PM
It must have something to do with you being told the moment you enter law school that you are smarter than everyone else. Y
You sent Today at 1:04 PM
So we are faced with the reality that anyone who missed the unconsciable GDP is not the smartest person to have ever lived.
You sent Today at 1:06 PM
Your thinking if you have money and property that affords you plenty of leisure time and only having to think if the people around you such as family and friends are there just waiting for you to die, is that you must be smart and those who don’t lie, steal and cheat are simply dumb.
You sent Today at 1:06 PM
Can’t you just wait to take your next breath?
You sent Today at 1:07 PM
Isn’t it great that you don’t have to think about breathing in and only having to think when to breath out?
You sent Today at 1:08 PM
On January 10 I formed a new facebook group chat, “What makes Elon Musk special”.
You sent Today at 1:12 PM
Besides for myself there are only two other members, President elect, Chairman Joe Biden’s most savvy money and political advisor Jeffrey R. Krinsk Esq. who if you need to get a quick tutorial, just ask South African litigator Geniv Wulz who has read his Wikipedia profile, and Solly Krok’s one [grandson] Stanford University graduate Dylan Chad Treger.
I plan to add more members. If you can think of something positive about Elon Musk please tell us and if I agree with you then I will add your name to the group.
You sent Today at 1:12 PM
Who here would like to leave Wow, very powerful before next hearing what my mother Zena has to say about me and her 3 other children?
You sent Today at 1:13 PM
Who knows how best to gather the world’s most negative energy people all into one room?
You sent Today at 1:14 PM
Who wishes they had different parents and siblings?
You sent Today at 1:18 PM
Which of our political commentators like Jenny Feinstein, Larry Winokur, David Danziger, Karen Gevisser Fisher, Gisela Gala, Jenny Arenstein-Friedman and Carline Caro Ter Rabaliatti, wish they had never once uttered a word comparing communism, socialism and capitalism, and how much better they would feel about themselves right now?
You sent Today at 1:19 PM
Tony Leon, go ahead tell us what you are thinking?
You sent Today at 1:22 PM
David Zulman, can you imagine if there is this God, what awaits Israeli liar-lawyer Ayala Weisel who has updated her facebook profile photo but yet to provide video of my mother Zena refuting all that my mother had to say in The Lady’s Speech and the rest all in support of my mother’s unique consciousness?
You sent Today at 1:23 PM Where do you go with your thoughts knowing it is impossible to refute the existence of a Higher Energy Reaction [HER] at the same time you have participated in the murder of my mother Zena with all your silence? You sent Today at 1:25 PM The fact that not one of you speak to the malice ridden Weisel who should have long been locked up and the key to her cell thrown away, the same with my cruel, vengeful siblings says a great deal about who you are.
You sent Today at 1:26 PM So what are you waiting for? Why remain a member when you stick out like a sore thumb and it is so easy to leave?
You sent Today at 1:27 PM Try not to ever forget, you missed the most important money-weatlh component and yet you are all about the money and looking cool.
You sent Today at 1:28 PM Once you have lost your body which is so hard to maintain when you eat like a pig, the only thing that makes you feel cool is your money which you could have first got from the SA Oppenheimers for your real estate projects assuming you had the common sense.
You sent Today at 1:29 PM I would bet that 90% of you are hoping that Facebook are going to ban me and that will give you reason to celebrate.
You sent Today at 1:29 PM It is no celebration to lose the game of life. You sent Today at 1:30 PM Norm Zwail, how is Leslie doing? You removed a participant from the group.
You sent Today at 1:37 PM The Coupon Clipper is Jack The Ripper Jeffrey Essakow how would you rate your brain activity?
You sent Today at 1:42 PM Who thinks it is treason to get financing from a foreign corporation whose principal role is furthering terrorism and acquiring mineral rights in mineral rich regions where oil brokers play an instrumental role in creating civil unrest? Seen by Geniv at 11:18 AM
You sent Today at 2:17 PM The young with the beautiful bodies, long perfect legs
You sent Today at 2:20 PM Not every beautiful young person has a Trust Fund waiting for them at birth.
You sent Today at 2:23 PM If you are unsure you can ask Jeffrey R. Krinsk Esq. if he thinks what caught Chairman Joe Biden was looking at his poor bank account and seeing how rich real estate developers can own tracks of land all over the world and be assured upon arrival of the red carpet treatment.
You sent Today at 2:24 PM How could 5 generations of First World middle class dwellers be so confused?
You sent Today at 2:27 PM How come the Woodstock crowd didn’t have one of them on LSD figuring there was something wrong with the private ownership of real estate only requiring getting into bed with the world’s biggest mineral thieves who helped push the virtues of private real estate ownership without having to pay the soldiers who did the merciless killing in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Congo, South Africa, Somalia, Yemen, etc a fair wage for their “sacrifice”? Adele Strous Clingman left the group.
You sent Today at 2:29 PM Adele Strous Clingman left again.
You sent Today at 2:32 PM Recapping: At 12:11 PM Calif. time, right after Melody Emmett left, and she remains at this hour 2:31 PM a face book, I wrote to her on fb messaging: Did you have a nervous twitch when you left my group chat Wow, very powerful just earlier? Did you graduate Rhodes University? If so when you took courses in the South African Monopolies Act did you realize that the German-South African Oppenheimers who replaced founder Cecil Rhodes were laughing their heads off at you all? I will now post this up on Wow, very powerful.
You sent Today at 4:04 PM 4:02 PM Tweet to Musk: We might as well be on Mars. We lost contact with the earth. The people that send the messages are suffocating voices. Why can’t we be like dogs very few are aggressive unless they have been mistreated. Everything connects. The word death contains eat. You are what you eat.
https://twitter.com/GaryGevisser/status/1351319006511300611?s=20
Monique Shevel left the group.
You sent Today at 4:10 PM Monique Shevel left.
You sent Today at 4:13 PM Coincidences are not predictable.
https://twitter.com/GaryGevisser/status/1309575217212137472?s=20 https://twitter.com/GaryGevisser/status/1309575217212137472?s=20
You sent Today at 4:26 PM Since those living during the Dark Ages couldn’t predict man falling for destruction of the planet, real estate development being so sought after by the laziest of humans unwilling to develop skills but thinking because the name “financial engineer” was introduced that was somehow a skill that is reinforced by bad university schooling, “It is who you know that counts” could be excused for the increasing loss of nature allowing short attention span human “Out of sight, out of mind” to gobble it all up, while finding it humorous Hitler-Goebbels, “The masses will more easily fall victim to a big lie than a small lie”. So would you talkers, FOOLS NAMES FOOLS FACES IN PUBLIC PLACES in the right hand column consider it impossible that a Higher Energy Reaction [HER] had you fooled from the start with the GDP which would have been laughed at by folks during the Dark Ages all the way through to the turn of the last century when the industrial revolution helped along by the most bloody wars propelled one genocide after the next and the most important being our Jewish Holocaust still hasn’t fazed you?
You began by telling me that you are an engineer.
What engineer do you know doesn’t know how to remove themself from facebook even if they are not who they say they are?
Common sense is everyone’s strong point were you to ask everyone.
What is your strong point?
Why do you think it is that people who are weak in logic are more prone to be nasty, unkind, and just not nice to be around?
When you view my mother Zena in The Lady’s Speech, does she remind you of your beautiful mother?
Could you see a lot of people in addition to my vengeance filled 3 ekder siblings feeling most jealous, spitful, ugly as hell when viewing that filming as well the remaining 28 videos all in support?
Could you imagine a group of 1438 inviduals spread throughout the world but connected to the Internet not liking the fact that they weren’t so lucky with their mother?
What if there is no mother in the world with film footage on Youtube who comes across as beautiful as my mother Zena; and not a kind word said by anyone?
This order of things really is important.
Do you feel that destiny plays any part in our lack of choice in our parents and grandparents?
Since we don’t have a choice and they really don’t have a choice in the personality that their offspring are born with, how does one justify the inheritance laws as it is all by chance? If it is all by chance why would we humans as a community decide that one child should be more privileged than the next without that child proving by their actions that they deserve more than the next child not born into privilege?
What if the money and all the tax laws that surround the money are grossly manipulated by the biggest thieves and murderers? Could you think of a more important or interesting conversation that you would like to entertain?
Why unless you have completely lost your mind and want to make a spectacle out of yourself wouldn’t you have left and at the same time removed your name so it is that much more difficult for others to track you?
Would you trust yourself more than Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk?
You must have seen my first activity today on the Internet when posting on my wall “CRASH BITCOIN …” which is now trading at $36,586.50 down $431.20.
Are you aware that the only thing Bitcoin has going for it is contrived demand led by Deutsche Bank and its affiliates?
Did you see that Russ Mitchell left?
He may be the LA Times journalist Russ Mitchell who I have been communicating with on both email and Twitter.
South African Arleen Shotland the ex wife of Neville Shotland who I just added, left.
Let me share with you a little about Arleen Shotland who I don’t believe I ever met and she lives in my hometown, Durban, South Africa which she says she arrived in 1973, 5 years before I immigrated to the United States. On December 29 at 9:05 AM Calif. time Arleen Shotland wrote to me on fb messaging the following:
The principal funders and most prominent on display at the entrance to this disgusting eyesore were the two Durban North Lazarus brothers who lived in big houses side by side. Both Gunter “The Pig” Lazarus and his brother Bernard who Arleen says has completely lost his mind which you don’t pick up in photo of him and his wife celebrating their 70th wedding anniversary in Israel where they now live or in all the congratulations they receive from their so two-faced Durban South African Jewish friends, openly supported the Nazi National Party of South Africa who grabbed power in the rigged May 26, 1948 South African General Election.
The Pig and Bernard were also the most prominent members of our orthodox Jewish synagogue which they attended every Friday night. They also ran along with their shills our Jewish day school Carmel College.
The Pig also thought nothing of telling Jewish boys that they should not bring their Jewish girlfriends to our school dance; and those who defied The Pig were punished. Not being able to make a living is the business of a dictator like Hitler. No less important The Durban North Lazarus’ held fundraisers for the National Party at their homes; and no outcry from either the rest of Durban Jewish community; why do you think that was? Less than 2 hours later, 10:59 AM she followed up:
https://www.2facetruth.com/arleen-shotland-they-werent-very-well-liked/
https://www.news24.com/witness/archive/bridget-oppenheimer-87-robbed-at-knife-point-20150430
9:26 PM Calif. time Gary Gevisser: Jonathan Gevisser, my second cousin and nephew of Engelhard Jr. “male heir” David Gevisser, left. Check out Jonathan Gevisser’s bio on 2facetruth.com Note how otherwise very quiet is Jonathan Gevisser.
@Neville Shotland, I wanted to make sure you got to see my earlier message to my second cousin, Jonathan Gevisser whose first cousin, the Yale University writer @Mark Gevisser is the eldest son of Jewish “turncoat” David Gevisser, the “male heir” of racist, monopolist, anti-Semite, German-American Charles W Engelhard Jr (1917-1971) who Mossad assassinated on March 2, 1971, a month after Engelhard turned 54.
Galit Tassi left the group.
You sent Today at 8:24 AM
Israeli Military Intelligence-Mossad officer, [IMIM]Galit Tassi left.
Not to mention, Tefo Mohapi who South African billionaire @Solly Krok offered to sponsor because Solly saw good potential in this young South African, also had interesting conversations with heavily two-faced, carrying the weight of the world on his fat face, @Mark Gevisser back in April 2005, beginning on April 11, 2005, 4 days after Nick Oppenheimer’s South African Sunday Times’ lawyers rejected my De Beers INFORMERS WANTED ad seeking out truth tellers; and nor was the letter kind and generous.
https://www.2facetruth.com/de-beers-informers-wanted-advertisement/
Tal Gaviser left the group.
You sent Today at 8:30 AM
To mention little of the $150 million paid to pedophile, blackmailer Jeffrey Epstein by Wall Streeter Leon Black whose corrupt 54 year old Wall Street father Eli Black (1921-1975) jumped out of the 44th floor of the Pan Am Building in New York City is already swept under the rug.
You added Galit Tassi to the group.
You sent Today at 8:31 AM
@Galit Tassi, I wanted to make sure that even if it was a nervous twitch which had you pressing remove, you got to read all of the above.
You added Brandon Kerzner to the group
. .. the same with you @Brandon Kerzner.
You sent Today at 8:33 AM
There is activity on To be honest which has yet to be made available to all of this membership, and of course there is cross-over.
You added Roy Berelowitz to the group.
Hilton Ellis left the group.
You sent Today at 8:34 AM
Hilton Ellis left.
You sent Today at 8:36 AM
Roy Berelowitz, are you sure you don’t want to hear more on the detailed discussion covering platitudes such as “Again, he is off his meds”, it could result in more of your book sales?
You sent Today at 9:20 AM
When we all get back, to focus on why it is predominately Jewish fat faced Wall Streeters who get most of the disgusting headline news.
Who profits most from the spread of anti-Semitism?
What are they hiding? It must be really valuable to go to such measures, resulting in the spending of the earth that no one seems to really care about?
Why do you think it is that everyone has such a really hard time with Professor Edward Jay Epstein’s The Diamond Invention book which hasnt changed much since it was written in 1978 because nothing has changed, other than we know perfectly well who is without intellect.
You need intellect to have morals.
Who remembers how they felt when they first came across GDP [Gross Domestic Product] economic index in The D I book?
Do you feel that Professor Epstein who is not the same as blackmailer, pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, needed to explain more clearly the important connection between the GDP and the Diamond Invention Game [DIG]?
Who would like to see a debate between me and Leon Black?
Correction: Tefo Mohap only had a conversation with writer Mark Gevisser, not his first cousin Jonathan Gevisser.
Jonathan Gevisser’s conversation in March 2009 was with my one website designer, 30 year old Adam L. Tucker.
Note Jonathan Gevisser’s clarity: “Sold under the table to Natie Kirsch who did the first asset strip in SA, dismantling in a few months what had taken generations to build.”
My God. Jonathan Gevisser actually writes where no one else had dared to go. Natie Kirsch was in fact a poor businessman and poor financially when compared to my father Bernie and his father, Israel Issy Gevisser [c.1890-1970] who didn’t last long once the treachery of his nephew, David Gevisser was unearthed.
Jonathan Gevisser wouldnt know his arse from his elbow when it comes to financial engineering but nor is he totally stupid.
You couldn’t get a bigger clown than Natie Krisch currently 614th on Forbes List of Billionaires, other than perhaps Warren Buffett and George Soros and lets face it, facebook board member Peter Thiel with the closest ties to SA Oppenheimers’ Nazi bank Deutsche Bank which gets high marks from all the mainstream media and non-mainstream media all being puppeted by the same puppets; namely, SA Oppenheimers-IG Farben-BASF-Monsanto-Deutsche Bank.
Note two-faced Jonathan Gevisser’s admonition to Adam L. Tucker at the very end, “please desist… i’d rather call it quits”.
Below are the email communication between Jonathan Gevisser and Adam L. Tucker:
From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 8, 2009 at 11:15pm
Hi Jonathan, Are you related to the South African Gevissers? cheers, Adam
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 9, 2009 at 1:10am
Indeed, Adam, i am a SA Gevisser, of which there a few branches! Which of us do you know and how?
cheers j
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 9, 2009 at 1:27pm
Hi Jonathan, I actually just began a dialogue with Bernie Gevisser
[https://www.2facetruth.com/ask-my-youngst-son-gary/]
whose father Issy Gevisser was one of the founders of Moshal Gevisser which I read owned a company called ACME Timber that apparently owned “huge forests” in Natal, South Africa. When I heard that Issy also owned priceless land in Hafia Harbor, Israel I wondered what Bernie was doing living in South Africa and not in Israel; which is actually where my parents met up in 1972 while my dad fought in the Yom Kippur war.
How are you related to Bernie who I understand fought in the second world war?
cheers,
Adam
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 9, 2009 at 10:58pm
Yes, Moshal Gevisser was the family firm. My grandfather, Morris Gevisser and his brother-in-law, Sol Moshal, along with Issy, Morris’ brother, were the founders. Bernie and my dad, Leslie, were first cousins and worked there almost all their working lives until it was sold under the table to Natie Kirsch who did the first asset strip in SA, dismantling in a few months what had taken generations to build.
Both Bernie and my dad fought in WW2. Bernie was a pilot who flew Spitfires. Wonderful man. I went to school with his kids. Bernie lives in Melbourne now, near his daughter Kathy.
Where/who/how are you… and what’s your interest in all this??
Ciao
Jonny
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 11, 2009 at 8:58am
Jonny, I am actually interested in getting to the bottom of how the US allowed the Apartheid regime to stay in power for so long. Even though there were many Jewish people who lead opposition to the Apartheid, there were a great many Jewish people especially here in the US who were open supporters of the Apartheid regime beginning with Charles Engelhard Jr. David Gevisser’s Bio
http://www.whoswhosa.co.za/Pages/profilefull.aspx?IndID=2993
While doing some research into Engelhard, the name David Gevisser came up beginning with him being named CEO of Engelhard’s South African operations in 1970 but there is no mention in David Gevisser’s bio of what he did before that led to him becoming CEO.
What is your relationship to David Gevisser?
Would you know if David Gevisser was in fact connected to Moshal Gevisser?
Cheers,
Adam
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 11, 2009 at 10:21am
He is my uncle and worked at Moshal Gevisser at the start of his career. Yopu should contact him directly if you want more info. I don’t feel comfortable talking about him ‘behind his back’, asit were. Suffice to say, however, that he was an advisor to Kader Asmal when he was Minister of Water Affairs and Forestry in the first democratic government after 94.
Cheers
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 11, 2009 at 2:09pm
Interestingly enough I came across this email communication online between a Mark Gevisser that mentions Moshal Gevisser Group; is it correct to assume that Mark is David’s son?
—– Original Message —–
From: Tefo Mohapi
To: Mark Gevisser
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:16 PM
Subject: Gevisser’s
Mark, Knowing very well that what I’m about to ask you is most probably none of my business, I was just curious as to how much Thabo Mbeki knows about your family and it’s history. More especially The Moshal Gevisser Group of Companies. As I said, I’m just curious being a South African and knowing you to be quite articulate from reading what you have written.
Kgotso! (Peace)
Tefo Mohapi
—– Original Message —–
From: Mark Gevisser
To: Tefo Mohapi
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Gevisser’s
Hi Tefo Not quite sure how to take your question, or why you are asking it. I doubt Mbeki knows –or should know– anything about Moshal Gevisser except that his mother bought her goods wholesale from them for her trading store.
Mark
Mark Gevisser
[Adam L. Tucker continues with Jonny Gevisser]
Assuming this is David’s son, Mark seems to be distancing himself and his father from Moshal Gevisser. You say it was an “under the table” deal which is curious because it seems to have taken place a year or so before Mark’s father started to become very rich and then it turns out, based on additional reading that David Gevisser became the executor of Charles Engelhard’s estate when he died on March 2nd, 1971.
Apart from you, do you know why the Gevisser family would not want to talk about this major “stripping of assets”?
Could it be that Engelhard had something to do with that “under the table” deal?
Do you know how can I reach David Gevisser?
Kgotso,
Adam
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 11, 2009 at 9:30pm
lots stories i grew up with re MG’s demise, replete with conspiracy theories, most especially around natie kirsch and sol moshal. i don’t recall an engelhard link though. my dad and Bernie were broken by the collapse of the firm and found themselves on the street, caps in hand looking for jobs. they never could get to the bottom of it. old history, old wounds, that resulted in much suffering in our small branch of the family, shadowing our childhoods hugely.
lots to love!
onwards ho and kgotso indeed
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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 12, 2009 at 9:20pm
I would like to send you some photos that I think you would appreciate. Do you have a yahoo or gmail account that I can send them to?
Cheers!
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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 12, 2009 at 10:13pm
adam, please desist. seems you know gary well and so your knowledge of the family, especially bernie and david is probably similar to mine even greater, as gary has made a study of the chequered history, specifically around the sell-out of MG that badly efected his and our branch more than most…yet you made out you knew nada..
i’d rather call this quits, thanks. good luck.
Added Neville Shotland. Added my South African highschool history teacher, Wendy Ann Bouman.