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To be honest ~ December 14, 2020 through January 26, 2021

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FACEBOOK group chat, To Be Honest [TBH]

December 14, 2020; 8:48 AM throught January 26, 2021

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A Josh Levenstein who is not one of my fb friends shows that he wants to join us.
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@Josh Levenstein, tells us more about yourself and why you wanted to join TBH? How did you hear of us?
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Torah sent December 14, 2020
Gary What are all those names on the side panel?
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Each of you think yourselves not only smart but a philosopher like @Robert Lawrence Kuhn whose documentaries abound on Youtube. Based on your personal experience have you experienced damaged people wanting to damage others, especially those who are good?
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@Torah Gemach, goodbye.
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@Moishe Chaiton, like @Josh Levenstein, you and I are not Facebook friends. Tell us more about yourself and why you wanted to join TBH? How did you hear of us?
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@Mel Gevisser and @Terry Orman Gevisser; before the two of you got divorced did the marriage counselor go back to why Melvin married someone who not only told him that she was “damaged” but Melvin wanted to have children with someone who was the exact opposite of my mother Zena?
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@Terry Orman Gevisser, has Melvin provided you and your two children an inventory of the cash and properties stolen from my mother Zena by Melvin and my two elder siblings?
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@Terry Orman Gevisser, you do know that you are free to leave this group chat at any time.
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A@Aaron Gudelsky, like @Moishe Chaiton and Josh Levenstein, who I added earlier, you are not one of my fb friends but notified me that you want to join this group chat. Tell us more about yourself and why you wanted to join TBH? How did you hear of us? We have 5 mutual fb friends: Alan Menachemson 145 mutual friends Dovi Yael Rabin 18 mutual friends Rephael Mendel Perkel 112 mutual friends Shmuel Montrose 145 mutual friends Yehiel Asseraf 24 mutual friends
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People don’t stick around because they don’t like getting the dirt, especially when it is all about how they have been deceived. You stick around because the truth which your mind most desires just like great sex has you eager to learn more including who knew what and when. You are just faking your indifference. Sometimes the poor student just has to be told the truth for the benefit of the whole class but what if the whole class is nasty? When some of you first learned yesterday, You need intellect to have morals it would not sit any better at this precise moment. I have many more media outlets than when first realizing that a monopolist seeks most to be the seller and the buyer and that simply requires having the product that everyone wants and charging yourself less than your competition. There are many ways to say the same thing but what is important is that there are no rules when you can change the rules and the lawmakers who make the rules that cannot be fair to the losers. Why would my mother Zena’s one model, @Penny Rey, Miss World 1958 conspicuously leave while not removing her second fb account unless either the first or the second is a fake account. If one is fake why not say so much earlier. Strange things are happening around the world and everyone is oriented to who is making the most sense. So Facebook has one information presenter who is more on top of the situation than the rest. If you were Mark Zuckerberg you would of course allow me to continue broadcasting without any censorship. Unlike Apple who charges heavily for their overpriced products, Facebook doesn’t charge anyone a penny and collects advertising revenues from advertisers who want to reach you and so what that they don’t waste your time knowing what you are more likely to be interested in. Information is the most valuable commodity in war. You can defeat your enemy with a fraction of their forces if you know their exact battle plans. It is no secret that if you need money capital to buy the best human capital engineers and designers and robot makers and manufacturing facilities you must go to the people who control the mineral resources and who have acquired them in the most unfair trade practices such as genocide and then organizing your world health organizations to cover up your foul play. So more and more of us humans are in the same page, and we have 1 day to go before Christmas Eve when I understand that Jesus Christ was born and I’m sure most Christians would know the exact time.
You sent December 23, 2020
At 4:40 PM California time, 45 minutes ago I Tweeted Elon Musk, following a thread started by someone he appears to know because EM responded “Good idea” to the suggestion of a vertically integrated company to knock the socks off all those holding on to the illusion of competition: Eliminate the illusion of competition and you have Winner Musk eliminating all the waste, wars supporting the bad illusion. Ego Cook not taking the meeting, leaving more than $500 billion on the table is egg all over more than his face. The kings of Wall Street are in panic mode.
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You sent December 29, 2020 at 12:05 PM
Shortly, I will be sharing an audio of my mother Zena which may or may not wake up the dead but you don’t want to miss it.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 12:05 PM
It is in fact no less important than my mother’s The Lady Speech which I filmed in the morning of September 22, 2016, the day after I arrived in Israel.
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It is quite an amazing piece The Lady’s Speech.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 12:21 PM
But you don’t want to comment because it is all too true, starting with my mother’s beauty that you can’t see in your own eyes or the eyes of your mother.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 12:21 PM
We humans are good at killing.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 12:21 PM
You relish murdering the best. This is a collective effort you have all accomplished.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 12:21 PM
Try it out on a morals class to kids just reaching puberty.
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Let’s come back to the physical world of man eat man, and yet we want to sound so kind until we change our mind based on mostly financial matters.
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There is a reason why no one wishes to debate me on the merits that you can’t have any freedoms when there is no real competition at the top.
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I understand that it is an insurmountable obstacle that is your punishment.
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Speak to God or speak to yourself that caused you to lose your mind.
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How can you say sorry to my mother and knowing my mother can’t respond. Your minds are God and God has told you what you have done wrong. All my mother Zena wanted was for me to be responsible for her and not anyone else.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 12:21 PM
From the wrong there must always be something positive, and on an even higher scale given the crime against my mother.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:00 PM
Many of you, including fb officials listening – and no less important than logical thinker Mark Zuckerberg is Elon Musk – we are waiting for member @Steven Bailey to explain himself better on his fb wall as he has the most difficult time explaining the fatal flaws of the GDP economic index, and yet he readily admits the Gross Domestic Product index is fatally flawed. Most disturbing to talkers is that the GDP which drives all decision making involving the world’s currencies, couldn’t be more comical in its infantile thinking, childish beyond belief, and yet it has proved effective in triggering each and every genocide starting with our Jewish Holocaust of World War II. All of you have heard of corporations like AIG, General Motors, Chrysler, Ford, Chase Bank, etc as too big to fail.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:06 PM
The time on the west coast of the United Stares is 4:02 PM, December 29, 2002, the day after the 19th anniversary of my colleague, economist Dr @Rodney Smith Phd meeting with Gray Davis, Governor of California, and 5 days before I had just returned from a visit in England with my mother Zena which culminated in me purchasing for her a “safe house” on the water’s edge of the Bristol Channel.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:07 PM
The thinking of “Too big to fail”is the business of a monopolist.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:09 PM
How do you integrate into the thinking of the full of itself human, free and fair markets with “too big to fail”?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:10 PM
How stupid is man?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:12 PM
Or is man purposefully ugly, with so few exceptions who don’t get pleasure crushing those just trying to do good?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:17 PM
Harry Oppenheimer never took my mother Zena for a fool. He also knew that my father Bernie also couldn’t be corrupted for all the money in the world. So where are all your brains that you cannot see the unimaginable programming that goes into each of us having our minds blown by a caterpillar right before our eyes building it’s tomb and out pops a magnificent in every respect butterfly.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:19 PM
Is it that everyone is thinking more of the next thing to say in order to sound intelligent and the metamorphosis of nature before us transforming into its next life.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:28 PM
The only person advocating peaceful means to overthrow the Oppenheimers’ Insanely evil Apartheid Regime supported by the rich of the world who the Oppenheimers had co-opted, at the same time taking the fight to the face of the SA Oppenheimers and their shills from both sides of the political isle when advocating foreigners invest in mineral rich South Africa while the most corrupt, most uncaring to the black masses of South Africa advocated trade boycotts which logically concentrated that much more power including political clout in the hands of the SA Oppenheimers who all of you quiet understand perfectly should have been the first prosecuted at Nuremberg for their war crimes of murdering 6 million Jewish people needed to get us to where we are today, numb.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:29 PM
Oppenheimer feared my mother Zena because he couldn’t figure out the strength of such a beautiful mind.
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He saw the rest of you for what you are, stupid and untrustworthy.
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You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:31 PM
He felt no pity for any of you that you couldn’t even figure that your religious leadership were leading astray the same as the business leadership.
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Oppenheimer never got his lunch with my mother that he most desired.
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My mother represented something so good and beautiful and yet the people couldn’t catch on to what my mother was saying about sharing. The smart of course only told my mother how very smart she was to put Oppenheimer on the spot.
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Were Oppenheimer alive today he would see that you have a choice to choose change but you won’t let go of your brainwashing no matter that it is destroying the planet and you can’t expect a positive outcome at the end.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:39 PM
Not every creature is a beautiful butterfly that serves to light up our minds.
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Not even the Oppenheimers are confusing and your minds tell you that the moment you begin reading The D I book.
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You show you will protect like you would your God.
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It is their money and their insane monetary system that you are protecting.
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It is a house of cards full of snakes.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:48 PM
No attempt to get Nick Oppenheimer on record explaining first of all how his father and grandfather escaped prosecution at Nuremberg and how right after their wealth and political clout exploded globally while happy making multibillionaires of pencil pushers like Warren Buffett and George Soros, and nothing for my mother other than the occasional disgusting platitudes.
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When my mother says “Men can be highly successful but never grow up” my mother hadn’t forgotten what it took to be successful in a totally rigged market whose richest are informers and backstabbers and expect their bought heirs and friends to play ball.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:55 PM
Can you imagine how the Oppenheimers laugh at all those calling themselves philanthropists who never talk serious business with the Oppenheimers.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 4:59 PM
You all watch the movies where deception is integral to any thriller, and yet you stick to your hope that no way the Oppenheimers would have fronts-stooges getting headline news like Marc Rich and his successor South African Chartered Accountant Ivan Glasenberg.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:00 PM
So long as the banks say someone is rich that is all you care about, other than feel envious.
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The SA Oppenheimers don’t have to say they are rich and powerful. It is all of you collectively saying they are rich and powerful because you know exactly how they grabbed their wealth without compensating their victims of genocide including the soldiers-mercenaries doing the killing to free up the land for mineral excavation followed by luxury resorts and AirBnB generating revenue-GDP for the shortfall in weapon sales.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:09 PM
Nor do the weapon sales have to end suddenly because there are still townships around the world for the poor like Khayelitsha in Cape Town, South Africa which provide menial labor.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:12 PM
Gentrification can be accomplished either with full scale rioting or just limited rioting in front of TV cameras rolling or through the banks releasing monies to the real estate developers who can be more trusted to hold back the monies going to the tenants than if the monies were given to the tenants.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:14 PM
If you couldn’t figure out that violence is the weapon of the anarchist who is the corrupt government then it may explain why you never questioned the insanity of “Too big to fail”.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:16 PM
A company or individual/s get rich by wiping out smaller competition who can’t compete on price of product and/or service or sufficient monies to attract the best engineers in the world who are constantly competing with one another.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:18 PM
How has TESLA-Musk managed to survive against the entire military industrial complex and all of you are so lame in support of militarism?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:21 PM
It was on April 25, 2001, by which time 3 of my articles condemning the pardon of terrorist financier Marc Rich had been published in the Jerusalem Post that my mother’s words “Men can be highly successful but never grow up!” began to spread.
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The short of that is “Men are stupid!”
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Women get bullied into believing that there is fierce competition amongst the pencil pushers who are quick to go to war.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:25 PM
Not helping matters are women losing their femininity, their greatest asset aside from superior intellect.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:27 PM
A monopolist’s dream “Too big to fail” and you all fell for it and to take your vengeance you have supported the brutal murder of my mother for which there can be no salvation.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:27 PM
Your die is cast.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:30 PM
One should be slow to ridicule those in India suffering horrible from the caste system who believe, and I’m not saying all of them, that their plight is from a wrong in a previous lifetime.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:31 PM
It is that each of you know how easy it is to fix the problem which is the greatest atrocity.
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When you combine however that belief system with the poor that is so strong with you increasingly less sure that you are going to get off the hook for your abominable actions, it might have you changing your mind, just in case.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:35 PM
Bear in mind the numbers choosing wrong currently are astronomical.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:37 PM
Imagine yourselves right now in a focus group conducted at TESLA and Musk thinks it so important that he attends behind the see through mirror that extends from one end of the large room to the other.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:38 PM
Call it 6 billion so as not to include toddlers.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:39 PM
Are you buyers of Tesla motor vehicles in the future?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:40 PM
Let us quickly move on.
You sent December 29, 2020 at 5:41 PM
How do you get successful in a rigged system where little officials get all riled up that they are saving the world from the small injustices?
You sent December 29, 2020 at 6:04 PM
My mother Zena led the smartest fight she knew in South Africa while knowing she could have led a glorious lifestyle in Europe and Asia but then she couldn’t have children with the best man in the world who also didn’t have a jealous bone in his body. You can’t fight Hitler with bought opponents. You have to start afresh and hope one of your offspring turns out good. I haven’t heard from any of you a kind word to say about my 3 elder siblings. Yet you obviously wish them well. Surely you can’t all only be here because you enjoy voyeurism? I’m here. My mother and father were very successful. I am very proud of them. You will all smoke each other out. There is no vengeance on my part. I feel blessed. You all show that you only wish you can find a flaw in my mother’s The Lady Speech or the many others I have posted up on YouTube. Just to have one is better than not having any. Would we really know how bad we are without all your bad behavior? Would be the first to say that you can’t beat the system outside of a miracle. I’ve already explained, Elon Musk is the miracle. Bear in mind the slaughter of the innocent 6 million Jewish people began with fear and starvation. Right before the entire German population was starving – a barrel full of Deutsche Bank Marks couldn’t afford a loaf – but miracle farmer, baker, butcher, bread maker and Wall Street Investment banking genius Hitler gets all the supermarket shelves full but it is only the Jews singled out to be starved. Let’s talk about the business of investment banking at tomorrow’s session.
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Edit: You show you will protect SA Oppenheimers-IG Farben-Deutsche Bank like you would your God.
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Edit: Is it that everyone is thinking more of the next thing to say in order to sound intelligent, and the metamorphosis of nature before us transforming into its next life, just a passing sideshow.
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Arnon, you look like you have lost your grounding. Is Solly Krok less enthusiastic to speak with you? I would be if in his shoes.
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Zangwill, thank you for bringing life once again To be honest.
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Let’s put everyone on the same page.
You sent January 18 at 2:40 PM
Zangwill, you are not the only person in the world who has been watching important events unfold on my facebook group chats and you not looking like you are getting any younger.
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Cutting and pasting from fb group Wow, very powerful Sun 10:43 AM Paulette Vidergauz Kam left the group. Sun 2:23 PM Melody A. Kramer left the group. Sun 4:26 PM Bobby Jacobs left the group. 10:37 AM You added Hans Post to the group. You added Adele Strous Clingman to the group. You added Bobby Jacobs to the group. You added Melody Emmett to the group. You added Melody A. Kramer to the group. You sent Today at 10:39 AM Earlier posting on my Facebook: P15 – When the wind blows the other way Just moments ago, 9:54 AM Calif time, I posted on Chaim Paddaman’s wall in response to his announcement that he is breaking away from being a political commentator the following: Title: How do we know you are not an automaton? We are going to miss your opinions, however totally misguided, which you discovered just the other day after you posted up on my Facebook wall a long and boring speech. You obviously hoped it would attract more attention to you and now you feel deflated. Are you hoping Facebook will ban you and remove all your writings and then you can start out afresh? How do we know you are not an automaton? Can you twiddle your toes on command? Can you think your own thoughts? Do you see other creatures on this earth showing more empathy towards each other than us humans who don’t seem to be able to change bad habits and willing to see the world destroyed for their future offspring just so that they don’t feel embarrassed? Yet they are willing to remain in the same room as the rest of the fools. This is strange behavior for any species let alone one that prides itself on its superior intellect. You also don’t seem comfortable with the notion that you need intellect to have morals. All I know about you is what you write above and that we have 3 mutual fb friends; two I don’t know, Anton Hattingh and Graham Clarke and one I know very well, Jewish South African multibillionaire industrialist philanthropist Solly Krok. Solly Krok along with bunches others were tagged by me as I began to expose your weak thinking but feeling the need to explode on the public airwaves like a bat out of hell. Why do you think they all stay at the same time have nothing to further contribute other than when occasionally they speak, it is all to distract? You must have thought by now what Hitler exhibited which caught the attention of his puppeteers? Are you thinking the same thing? Can you think of anyone else on Facebook who is presenting to the masses as important information as I am doing? I am in a position to speak with authority on this subject given how I know what the people at the very top think every moment of the day when they are awake, including when they are eating and few of them eating healthy because they lack empathy, consciousness-logic which is not necessary to our survival as we can all notice that in pursuit of economic progress we are fast destroying our natural habitat which hasn’t resulted in the religious being any less conscious-less than the rest and that greatly helps neutralize a huge segment of the human population. When you don’t speak you speak, especially when it is all of you so embarrassed by your common bond of failing to recognize when you were still a young person, full of vitality the enormous calamity of the most stupid in every respect Gross Domestic Product economic index which was necessary to create the very underwhelming middle class made up predominantly of medical doctors, lawyers and such. So tell us more about your background and the sudden change of heart not to continue as a political commentator? Let’s assume that you have perfectly followed my logic would you expect that if people like Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk and the Twitter guy Jack Dorsey came across my writings they would choose to be as disinterested as everyone else is trying to make out but failing hopelessly? Both my Jewish parents, and each coming from opposite ends of the earth, did a lot of international traveling starting with my Allied Fighter Bomber Pilot father Bernie Gevisser who while still 21 years of age completed, without being shot down once, a spectacular 71 dive-bombing missions over the rugged terrain of northern Italy all in support of both the resistance, including the Jewish Brigade and the Russian Red Army needing the pressure to be taken off; and the Allied delay in moving on Germany’s western front had everything to do with the west’s fear of Stalin and the spread of Soviet communism as well as Chinese communism. It is highly likely that you don’t have the first clue why communism came about. Don’t quickly jump to Google because Google isn’t going to give you the right answer. It was not to help the rich landowners own more tracks of farmland unless you think the rich landowners needed to distract from their pillaging at the same time give the peasants who worked the land a false sense of security. One of the benefits of being a “late talker” such as myself is that you don’t get idiots such as yourself talking crap into our ears from an early age. With the educational curriculum corrupted by the warmongers, the only way to learn the truth is to travel a lot and listen carefully to everything spoken both the rich and poor as well as those in between. That takes an inordinate amount of patience considering all the same shit the people speak. At some point you have to make a cutoff, and I’ve decided that day is today. You learned from my writings “When the wind blows the other way” and we are now moving on to page 15 with page 14 completed the morning of the 16th that the history is only important in terms of how we got into this mess and that can’t be overstated because at its core has all the brainwashed such as yourself thinking you are independent thinkers with an opinion that others should hear. Now, this very moment, it is only about how best to compensate the peacemakers as well as those who profit from promoting fear which goes hand in hand with the war business. I made it perfectly clear to you and everyone else listening, it is who best amongst us to be in charge of determining the compensation of the engineers designing the battlefield robots at the same time assessing their loyalty other than to whoever pays them the most. See how easy it is to boil everything down into one book that obsoletes all the rest other than manuals on how to work robots? Which Captain of Industry would you trust the most wanting to see beauty and perfection? You would expect my audience to be much larger than those I tagged such as Solly Krok’s relatives Dylan Chad Treger, Mark Krok and Nadine Krok Segal and others also trying to make money connections and/or just bored in general, South African litigator Geniv Wulz, Alan Davidoff, Alan Yudelman, Alan Levy, Alan Glauber, Micha-el Frame, Austin Michael Faure, Harold Schenk, Harold Joffe, Lynda Egnos, Lynda Jacobson Rabinowitz, Lynne Karen Bentel, Ray Lipner, Rephael Mendel Perkel, Basil Cohen, Arnon Zangwill, Arnold Gerson, Arnold Joffe, Beth Isaacs, Jenny Feinstein, Jenny Arenstein – Friedman, Ann Nurock, Wendy Ann Bouman, my high school history teacher, Steven Kofsky, Steven Bailey, Gary Steven Sachs, Stan Kessel, Stan Milc etc. So when Elon Musk talks about the need for mankind, the oxymoron of all time, to preserve our consciousness and that we should become an interplanetary traveling species which won’t prevent another galaxy like Andromeda crashing into the Milky Way and creating much more havoc than the previous collision do you think it is because Musk is totally stupid? I happen to think both Musk and Zuckerberg to be smart enough to follow my logic. What do you think? 👍 1 Jenny Feinstein Jenny sent Today at 10:50 AM Those Kroks 🤔 Seen by Arnold at 10:51 AM You sent Today at 11:18 AM @Jenny Feinstein, that is so weak. Hans Post left the group. You sent Today at 11:26 AM Tweet to Elon Musk at 11:24 AM California time: Time for you to move into the Congo, not only closer to the equator but to end the vile monopolistic rule. The people will get behind you to end the corruption once and for all. Just don’t count on corrupt Hollywood to send your positive message. Violence is their staple diet. https://twitter.com/GaryGevisser/status/1351249128194535424?s=20 You added Sofiaan Fraval to the group. You added Gary Saitowitz to the group. You added Austin Michael Faure to the group. You added Larry Shain to the group. You added Wendy Ann Bouman to the group. You added Beverly-Anne Cooper Matus to the group. You added Tal Gaviser to the group. You added Lauren Gilman Gaviser to the group. You added Idit Cohen Gaviser to the group. You turned on member approval and will review requests to join the group. You added Paulette Vidergauz Kam to the group. You sent Today at 11:39 AM It is an act of violence my 3 elder siblings Kathy Gevisser Danziger, Melvin Gevisser and Neil Gevisser not giving my mother Zena any possibility of talking with me. Seen by Ekerette at December 31, 1969 at 4:00 PM You sent Today at 11:43 AM There are new members to this group as well as my other Facebook group chats who wouldn’t perfectly understand, but for South Africans, especially Jewish South Africans the rest of you perfectly understand. The deafening silence you see on The Lady’s Speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL4qdY7ESzE filmed by me the morning of September 22, 2016 in my mother Zena’s apartment in Netanya, Israel should long have pricked all your consciences. Obviously you can live without a conscience. You sent Today at 11:44 AM But does that mean you have intellect because you can block out the important truths? You sent Today at 11:44 AM You need intellect to have morals. No morals, no intellect. You sent Today at 11:45 AM All of you are talkers otherwise you wouldn’t be on Facebook. Seen by Lauren at December 31, 1969 at 4:00 PM You sent Today at 11:47 AM All of you also know why it is you act like a chicken with its head cut off once waking up to how you, your parents, grandparents and in many cases great grandparents missed the murderous nature of the Gross Domestic Product economic index, but yet you have opinions on every subject under the sun other than what could have caused such a mass scale epidemic like none other in recorded history. Seen by Tal at December 31, 1969 at 4:00 PM You sent Today at 11:49 AM Your thinking is that if you can just sound like you have consciousness, “Those Kroks 🤔” then people should be eager to invite you to their beach houses, assuming you don’t already have your own to attract more money grabbers. You sent Today at 11:55 AM Facebook yesterday notified that I had “violated community standards” when I first posted up a photo of the song “Come On Get Higher” by Matt Nathanson, and nor had I typed anything. Their algorithm seemed to have corrected itself by the time I reposted it, and which I followed up 2 minutes later at 3:54 PM Calif. time with the words at the beginning of the song, “It’s too late to apologize”. You sent Today at 11:57 AM Each of you know why it is that it is too late to apologize to me and my mother Zena, and so don’t start now. My first cousin Barry Molk MD why would you bother? To attach yourselves to murderous, cold blooded murderers who didn’t wait long to begin stealing my mother’s properties believing that they had nothing to lose, all the while hiding behind their Israeli lawyers, is worse than a life sentence. You sent Today at 11:58 AM Stupid people can’t be expected to think smart. You sent Today at 11:58 AM That doesn’t mean they are incapable of performing their bodily functions. You sent Today at 11:58 AM They can even make polite conversation with one another. You sent Today at 12:04 PM But to be two-faced, Facebook friends with such human monsters, must have severe, dire strait consequences for there is this insanely powerful order to this universe that is of course lost on all the hypocrite religious as well as the scientists and astrophysicists looking for their next grant money coming either from their bad government sponsors or directly from the kingpin monopolists, South Africa based SA Oppenheimers who didn’t wait very long to corrupt all the South African Jewish communities beginning in earnest well before the last Jewish corpse was thrown into the crematoria of Auschwitz, Treblinka and the such. You sent Today at 12:04 PM Who feels they need help in identifying turncoats within their midst? Melody Emmett left the group. You sent Today at 12:07 PM Remember this game of life for us humans is a thinking person’s game rather than to stuff yourself as much with poison foods albeit increasingly hungrier the result of lack of nutrition and every moment that passes you are that much more depressed by doing your best to put on a smile and show everyone else how happy and helpful you are as if that would mask both your rotting insides and feeling you have of everyone looking at you with disgust. You sent Today at 12:07 PM Melody Emmett left the group. Let’s make sure that it too wasn’t a nervous twitch. You added Melody Emmett to the group. You sent Today at 12:08 PM Its possible this Melody Emmett is not the same. We shall find out shortly.
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It looks like the Melody Emmett which I added last may be different to the one above who remains one of my fb friends currently numbering 1953 odd. Melody has 4949 fb friends which means she spends a lot of time looking at her handheld.

You sent Today at 12:16 PM
What did we do before handhelds? What did we say to each other at coffee shops or at restaurants where you are supposed to enjoy both the company and the food?

You sent Today at 12:17 PM
You see how easily we are swayed by the easy stuff.
You sent Today at 12:18 PM
It is much more difficult to stay in shape not by pushing weights but much more importantly eating healthy than it is to change the color of your hair and wear bracelets on your arms to hide the fat swaying in the wind of the upper arms. Beverly-Anne Cooper Matus left the group.

You sent Today at 12:19 PM
Political correctness must of course begin with knowing the history of mineral rich regions of the world and quick to shut down most of all Jewish opposition.

You sent Today at 12:20 PM
Let’s see if Jewish South African Beverly-Anne Cooper Matus whose family owned, with investment I believe from Solly Krok, a man’s clothing shop in Beverly Hills, also had a nervous twitch. You added Beverly-Anne Cooper Matus to the group.

You sent Today at 12:22 PM
So what happens when you miss the fundamentals of something as important as the introduction of communism as a political movement?

You sent Today at 12:22 PM
Does it stop you from shopping until you drop?

You sent Today at 12:24 PM
Unlikely, because it is likely to exacerbate your consumerism because you are paying that much more attention to the TV telling you that consumerism is good for the economy and what is good for the economy is good for everyone according to trickle down economic theory.

You sent Today at 12:24 PM
How do you get the entire First World to ignore the contradiction of healthy economy and health of the planet?

You sent Today at 12:26 PM
First, you breed people like Steven Bailey and 8 billion others, concentrate them into cities and give them jobs which don’t require any thinking. Beverly-Anne Cooper Matus left the group.

You sent Today at 12:27 PM
Second, you tell them that their vote counts even if more than 50% of the population don’t vote.

You sent Today at 12:27 PM
Third, you get money into the hands of the most obedient; namely real estate speculators.

You sent Today at 12:28 PM
Why do you think it is that there are a disproportionate number of Jewish real estate developers?

You sent Today at 12:29 PM
Developers need architects as much as they do government officials willing to take bribes.

Why do you think there is a disproportionate number of Jewish architects, lawyers, medical doctors and the such?

You sent Today at 12:58 PM
Do you think us Jewish people are inherently stupid or that the “Powers that be” Oppenheimers focus on the least questioning of us Jewish people starting with our Jewish religious? If you are going to go I am told that kidney failure is like going to sleep slowly, much akin to a butaine release. Again check with your medical practicioner should it be of interest.

You sent Today at 1:00 PM
Again, any animal that cannot figure out on their own the absurdity of the GDP index that is so easy to get your head around, is most likely to miss the Big Picture of us being here.

You sent Today at 1:01 PM
Why do we keep asking what we are doing here as all we mostly see is the destruction of nature?

You sent Today at 1:02 PM
How can you begin to call yourself a conscious being when you see nature being dozed for excessive development to sustain a growing population to feed the GDP which promotes greater consumerism and overpopulation?

You sent Today at 1:03 PM
It must have something to do with you being told the moment you enter law school that you are smarter than everyone else. Y

You sent Today at 1:04 PM
So we are faced with the reality that anyone who missed the unconsciable GDP is not the smartest person to have ever lived.

You sent Today at 1:06 PM
Your thinking if you have money and property that affords you plenty of leisure time and only having to think if the people around you such as family and friends are there just waiting for you to die, is that you must be smart and those who don’t lie, steal and cheat are simply dumb.

You sent Today at 1:06 PM
Can’t you just wait to take your next breath?

You sent Today at 1:07 PM
Isn’t it great that you don’t have to think about breathing in and only having to think when to breath out?

You sent Today at 1:08 PM
On January 10 I formed a new facebook group chat, “What makes Elon Musk special”.

You sent Today at 1:12 PM
Besides for myself there are only two other members, President elect, Chairman Joe Biden’s most savvy money and political advisor Jeffrey R. Krinsk Esq. who if you need to get a quick tutorial, just ask South African litigator Geniv Wulz who has read his Wikipedia profile, and Solly Krok’s one [grandson] Stanford University graduate Dylan Chad Treger.

I plan to add more members. If you can think of something positive about Elon Musk please tell us and if I agree with you then I will add your name to the group.

You sent Today at 1:12 PM
Who here would like to leave Wow, very powerful before next hearing what my mother Zena has to say about me and her 3 other children?

You sent Today at 1:13 PM
Who knows how best to gather the world’s most negative energy people all into one room?

You sent Today at 1:14 PM
Who wishes they had different parents and siblings?

You sent Today at 1:18 PM
Which of our political commentators like Jenny Feinstein, Larry Winokur, David Danziger, Karen Gevisser Fisher, Gisela Gala, Jenny Arenstein-Friedman and Carline Caro Ter Rabaliatti, wish they had never once uttered a word comparing communism, socialism and capitalism, and how much better they would feel about themselves right now?

You sent Today at 1:19 PM
Tony Leon, go ahead tell us what you are thinking?

You sent Today at 1:22 PM
David Zulman, can you imagine if there is this God, what awaits Israeli liar-lawyer Ayala Weisel who has updated her facebook profile photo but yet to provide video of my mother Zena refuting all that my mother had to say in The Lady’s Speech and the rest all in support of my mother’s unique consciousness?

You sent Today at 1:23 PM Where do you go with your thoughts knowing it is impossible to refute the existence of a Higher Energy Reaction [HER] at the same time you have participated in the murder of my mother Zena with all your silence? You sent Today at 1:25 PM The fact that not one of you speak to the malice ridden Weisel who should have long been locked up and the key to her cell thrown away, the same with my cruel, vengeful siblings says a great deal about who you are.

You sent Today at 1:26 PM So what are you waiting for? Why remain a member when you stick out like a sore thumb and it is so easy to leave?

You sent Today at 1:27 PM Try not to ever forget, you missed the most important money-weatlh component and yet you are all about the money and looking cool.

You sent Today at 1:28 PM Once you have lost your body which is so hard to maintain when you eat like a pig, the only thing that makes you feel cool is your money which you could have first got from the SA Oppenheimers for your real estate projects assuming you had the common sense.

You sent Today at 1:29 PM I would bet that 90% of you are hoping that Facebook are going to ban me and that will give you reason to celebrate.

You sent Today at 1:29 PM It is no celebration to lose the game of life. You sent Today at 1:30 PM Norm Zwail, how is Leslie doing? You removed a participant from the group.

You sent Today at 1:37 PM The Coupon Clipper is Jack The Ripper Jeffrey Essakow how would you rate your brain activity?

You sent Today at 1:42 PM Who thinks it is treason to get financing from a foreign corporation whose principal role is furthering terrorism and acquiring mineral rights in mineral rich regions where oil brokers play an instrumental role in creating civil unrest? Seen by Geniv at 11:18 AM

You sent Today at 2:17 PM The young with the beautiful bodies, long perfect legs

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You sent January 18 at 2:52 PM
say I want to live now; why should I pay for those with a low immune system?

You sent Today at 2:20 PM Not every beautiful young person has a Trust Fund waiting for them at birth.

You sent Today at 2:23 PM If you are unsure you can ask Jeffrey R. Krinsk Esq. if he thinks what caught Chairman Joe Biden was looking at his poor bank account and seeing how rich real estate developers can own tracks of land all over the world and be assured upon arrival of the red carpet treatment.

You sent Today at 2:24 PM How could 5 generations of First World middle class dwellers be so confused?

You sent Today at 2:27 PM How come the Woodstock crowd didn’t have one of them on LSD figuring there was something wrong with the private ownership of real estate only requiring getting into bed with the world’s biggest mineral thieves who helped push the virtues of private real estate ownership without having to pay the soldiers who did the merciless killing in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Congo, South Africa, Somalia, Yemen, etc a fair wage for their “sacrifice”? Adele Strous Clingman left the group.

You sent Today at 2:29 PM Adele Strous Clingman left again.

You sent Today at 2:32 PM Recapping: At 12:11 PM Calif. time, right after Melody Emmett left, and she remains at this hour 2:31 PM a face book, I wrote to her on fb messaging: Did you have a nervous twitch when you left my group chat Wow, very powerful just earlier? Did you graduate Rhodes University? If so when you took courses in the South African Monopolies Act did you realize that the German-South African Oppenheimers who replaced founder Cecil Rhodes were laughing their heads off at you all? I will now post this up on Wow, very powerful.

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Removed Derrick Justin to make way for Adele Strous Clingman to rejoin us.
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You sent January 18 at 3:00 PM
Adele, I never said you have a beautiful body or face, but I would like it if your name doesn’t keep showing up for me to keep adding you.
You sent January 18 at 3:01 PM
Who else would like to join Adele Strous Clingman from staying permanently off my fb group chats?
You sent January 18 at 4:30 PM
Cut and paste Wow, very powerful:

You sent Today at 4:04 PM 4:02 PM Tweet to Musk: We might as well be on Mars. We lost contact with the earth. The people that send the messages are suffocating voices. Why can’t we be like dogs very few are aggressive unless they have been mistreated. Everything connects. The word death contains eat. You are what you eat.

https://twitter.com/GaryGevisser/status/1351319006511300611?s=20

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You sent Today at 4:10 PM Monique Shevel left.

You sent Today at 4:13 PM Coincidences are not predictable.

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You sent Today at 4:26 PM Since those living during the Dark Ages couldn’t predict man falling for destruction of the planet, real estate development being so sought after by the laziest of humans unwilling to develop skills but thinking because the name “financial engineer” was introduced that was somehow a skill that is reinforced by bad university schooling, “It is who you know that counts” could be excused for the increasing loss of nature allowing short attention span human “Out of sight, out of mind” to gobble it all up, while finding it humorous Hitler-Goebbels, “The masses will more easily fall victim to a big lie than a small lie”. So would you talkers, FOOLS NAMES FOOLS FACES IN PUBLIC PLACES in the right hand column consider it impossible that a Higher Energy Reaction [HER] had you fooled from the start with the GDP which would have been laughed at by folks during the Dark Ages all the way through to the turn of the last century when the industrial revolution helped along by the most bloody wars propelled one genocide after the next and the most important being our Jewish Holocaust still hasn’t fazed you?

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https://www.2facetruth.com/when-the-wind-blows-the-other-way/ A couple of hours ago it was snowing and yesterday it was upwards of 90 degrees – still using Farenheit mostly in the US. There are strong signs that we have been going backwards but I see a reverse now taking place. It is the order of things which are most important and which I will get to in due course. That doesn’t bad acts go unpunished.
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You sent January 19 at 2:15 PM
Mark George, on November 18 last year you asked me for my email address and I sent it to you immediately and asked you for yours. You didn’t provide it. Did I miss something?

https://www.2facetruth.com/mark-george-correct-gary/

You began by telling me that you are an engineer.

What engineer do you know doesn’t know how to remove themself from facebook even if they are not who they say they are?

Common sense is everyone’s strong point were you to ask everyone.

What is your strong point?

Why do you think it is that people who are weak in logic are more prone to be nasty, unkind, and just not nice to be around?

When you view my mother Zena in The Lady’s Speech, does she remind you of your beautiful mother?

Could you see a lot of people in addition to my vengeance filled 3 ekder siblings feeling most jealous, spitful, ugly as hell when viewing that filming as well the remaining 28 videos all in support?

Could you imagine a group of 1438 inviduals spread throughout the world but connected to the Internet not liking the fact that they weren’t so lucky with their mother?

What if there is no mother in the world with film footage on Youtube who comes across as beautiful as my mother Zena; and not a kind word said by anyone?

This order of things really is important.

Do you feel that destiny plays any part in our lack of choice in our parents and grandparents?

Since we don’t have a choice and they really don’t have a choice in the personality that their offspring are born with, how does one justify the inheritance laws as it is all by chance? If it is all by chance why would we humans as a community decide that one child should be more privileged than the next without that child proving by their actions that they deserve more than the next child not born into privilege?

What if the money and all the tax laws that surround the money are grossly manipulated by the biggest thieves and murderers? Could you think of a more important or interesting conversation that you would like to entertain?

Why unless you have completely lost your mind and want to make a spectacle out of yourself wouldn’t you have left and at the same time removed your name so it is that much more difficult for others to track you?

Would you trust yourself more than Mark Zuckerberg or Elon Musk?

You must have seen my first activity today on the Internet when posting on my wall “CRASH BITCOIN …” which is now trading at $36,586.50 down $431.20.

Are you aware of how easy it is for Deutsche Bank to drive Bitcoin up to $12 million per electrical bitcoin in the next moment and have no fear of anyone crying foul?

Are you aware that the only thing Bitcoin has going for it is contrived demand led by Deutsche Bank and its affiliates?

Did you see that Russ Mitchell left?

He may be the LA Times journalist Russ Mitchell who I have been communicating with on both email and Twitter.

South African Arleen Shotland the ex wife of Neville Shotland who I just added, left.

Let me share with you a little about Arleen Shotland who I don’t believe I ever met and she lives in my hometown, Durban, South Africa which she says she arrived in 1973, 5 years before I immigrated to the United States. On December 29 at 9:05 AM Calif. time Arleen Shotland wrote to me on fb messaging the following:

“We now have a holocaust museum there which is amazing. There have been so many changes, I would t know where to start.”
That Jewish Holocaust Museum was called when I visited in early 2015 Tolerance Museum.

The principal funders and most prominent on display at the entrance to this disgusting eyesore were the two Durban North Lazarus brothers who lived in big houses side by side. Both Gunter “The Pig” Lazarus and his brother Bernard who Arleen says has completely lost his mind which you don’t pick up in photo of him and his wife celebrating their 70th wedding anniversary in Israel where they now live or in all the congratulations they receive from their so two-faced Durban South African Jewish friends, openly supported the Nazi National Party of South Africa who grabbed power in the rigged May 26, 1948 South African General Election.

The Pig and Bernard were also the most prominent members of our orthodox Jewish synagogue which they attended every Friday night. They also ran along with their shills our Jewish day school Carmel College.

The Pig also thought nothing of telling Jewish boys that they should not bring their Jewish girlfriends to our school dance; and those who defied The Pig were punished. Not being able to make a living is the business of a dictator like Hitler. No less important The Durban North Lazarus’ held fundraisers for the National Party at their homes; and no outcry from either the rest of Durban Jewish community; why do you think that was? Less than 2 hours later, 10:59 AM she followed up:

You are telling me things that are quite unbelievable, but most interesting and horrific, you have opened my eyes to a lot regarding the Lazarus’s….. they weren’t very well liked …….. are you going to write a book?

https://www.2facetruth.com/arleen-shotland-they-werent-very-well-liked/

You sent January 19 at 2:16 PM
Mark George, you could be Jewish or you could be Muslim or you could be nothing other than another automaton.
You sent January 19 at 2:18 PM
But you have to be taken by, “they weren’t very well liked”. Sidney Lazarus, the only son of The Pig is still a member of To be honest and he has a great many more Durban Jewish South African friends than me. Nor has Sidney or his siblings or first cousins distanced themselves from the vulgarity of The Pig and Bernard, why do you think that is?
You sent January 19 at 2:19 PM
Mark George, why are unhealthy people so disgustingly two-faced?
You sent January 19 at 2:19 PM
Could you see diet along with bad company playing a part and if so how would you recommend we try changing things for the better?
You sent January 19 at 2:21 PM
Mark George do you think it was good Christians or good Muslims or good Buddhists who proclaimed loudly throughout South Africa during the heinous Apartheid Regime, “IF THERE WAS NOT A BLACK PROBLEM IN South Africa, THERE WOULD BE A JEWISH PROBLEM”?
You sent January 19 at 2:22 PM
Do you think there is a problem with the Jewish religion that Jewish turncoats proclaim “”IF THERE WAS NOT A BLACK PROBLEM IN South Africa, THERE WOULD BE A JEWISH PROBLEM”?
You sent January 19 at 2:23 PM
Doesn’t it tell you in fact how anarchists, dictators, monopolists, anyone anti-competition fears Judaism the most?” Are you ready to convert to Judaism to compensate for all the turncoats?
You sent January 19 at 2:24 PM
Edit: That doesn’t mean bad acts go unpunished.
You sent January 19 at 4:29 PM
A lot of people are freezing to death tonight. You can’t move your lips to do the right thing. What sort of animal is this who can see how wrong it all is just by the way not one of you point to the next out of line. Instead you point a finger at me but you cant argue against the truth-logic. What sort of human is this? There is order to this universe. Those people are freezing to death because you simply can’t handle the truth. This is punishment for you individually and collectively, isn’t it?
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You sent January 19 at 7:23 PM
Posted earlier on fb group chat Wow, very powerful:
You sent January 19 at 7:24 PM
It was a choice in 1973; either a 50cc motorcycle or one of beautiful Penny Coelen’s retired Polo horses who was light gray, “gentile” (sic), responsive like no other horse I have ridden. Penny was also going to continue stabling the horse; a gift that was priceless. But I went for the motorcycle. You could cover the one end of Durban, the Bluff
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You sent January 19 at 7:26 PM
– which is not in the background of the photo of my mother Zena who picked Penny out of a crowd sitting on Durban’s South Beach
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You sent January 19 at 7:28 PM
to be South Africa’s first Miss World 1958 – to the other, Umhlanga Rocks in less than 20 minutes, and we are talking 48 years ago.
You sent January 19 at 7:28 PM
Along the way I would occassionally pass by the SA Oppenheimer’s mansion in La Lucia.
You sent January 19 at 7:29 PM
Most all white South Africans regardless of their gender, sexual orientation, good looking, ugly looking, lean and strong, fat and weak, religious, irreligious, and most importantly political and economic belief system outside of the almighty “Might is Right-Gunboat Diplomacy, because Im simply pointing out “most all white …” which is borderline “all whites without exception”, so lets just step back “most all white South Africans” and non-white South Africans, know that my future boss, Harry Oppenheimer’s 87 year old wife Brigette was robbed at knifepoint at her La Lucia mansion in early August 2008.

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You sent January 19 at 7:31 PM
Knowing what the enemies of us Jewish people were thinking at all times was the key to my mother Zena’s success in not only staying alive but keeping her wits about her at all times, other than what started out as a little faux pas to her second husband, Alan Zulman, a successful South African clothing manufacturer, back at my mother’s principal residence in Wiveliscombe, Somerset, England in December 2001, just 3 months after my mother broadcasted via “emal” (sic) September 25, 2001 her most carefully crafted memoirs titled, Life Story of Zena and which begins: “Literally – “born to perform” Zena Gevisser was pulled out of her mother’s womb in an emergency Caesarian – performed in the front bedroom of the family home in Blackpool, England.”
You sent January 19 at 7:32 PM
Alan Zulman’s first cousin, Arnold Zulman the father of member David Zulman inherited a tidy Beacon Sweet factory from his father Hymie who loaned Alan Zulman the monies to co-found with Abe Dubin whose widow, Vera, a medical doctor, is still with us, I believe, South Africa’s premier clothing manfucturer, South African Clothing Industries [SACI] where the brilliant manufacturing was entirely in Alan Zulman’s hands while his treacherous bastard partner Abe Dubin fucked the designers and models; at least 90% of his working day.
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My mother Zena was also most excellent at planting very important but fictitious stories in newspapers around the world although (all) you see (is) my mother mentioning in her memoirs;
“From the earliest days of 1949 she visited Israel two and three times a year writing reports for different publications. Her paternal grandmother had been an early resident of Tel Aviv only returning to England when Zena was born. The Gevissers (she married Bernie Gevisser when she was 19 after only a few months in Durban) owned land in Haifa harbour and Zichron Yscov and she rapidly felt at home in Israel. Reporting on the many wars when Israel was attacked she was the first civilian in the captured area of the Sinai and in later years at her own expense twinned Durban with Eilat. In 1978 she left Durban eventually making her home in Netanya [Israel] and England.”
You sent January 19 at 7:35 PM
If you wanted to murder Jewish people, would you keep your eyes on Christians or Muslims or atheists or Buddhists? Yes, if you were stupid.
You sent January 19 at 7:36 PM
The focus of the German-South African Oppenheimers following their escape from prosecution at Nuremberg for much more than their warcrimes of murdering 6 million Jewish people has been to deal with Jewish troublemakers.
You sent January 19 at 7:37 PM
One of the effective ways to neutralize Jewish troublemakers is to reward Jewish thugs.

You sent January 19 at 7:38 PM
If anyone knows of a more effective way, please share it with the rest of us.
You sent January 19 at 7:38 PM
The Nazi South African Prime Minister P.W. Botha on the left wearing the hat is not unaware that seated right next to South Africa’s second Miss World, Anneline Kriel is her husband, Gambling Czar, South African Chartered Accountant, Sol “Gambling Czar” Kerzner.
You sent January 19 at 7:39 PM
This is no slight on Anneline Kriel who may very well have been over her head and simply focused on Kerzner’s fame and fortune; but not necessarily.
You sent January 19 at 7:39 PM
You know how it is when somone stops smoking, they hate the smell of cigarette smoke.
You sent January 19 at 7:40 PM
The German-South African Oppenheimers stopped being Jewish and openly chose to be Christians. Not all Christians like Jewish people. Not one Jewish person I know of who converts to Christianity unless it is for financial gain, likes Jewish people, especially those who decided to ostracize the Oppenheimers for monopolistic; i.e. dictatorship trade practices which said simply “My way or the highway”.
You sent January 19 at 7:41 PM
A great many Christians don’t like Jewish people because they don’t understand the dynamics involved to kill off all us questioning Jewish people who don’t take kindly to turncoats no matter how much money they have.
You sent January 19 at 7:41 PM
You educate mothers not to be baby factories, you can teach anyone to do the right thing.
You sent January 19 at 7:44 PM
When the Gambling Czar borrowed money (for his Umhlanga Beverly Hills hotel) from his parents who owned the Kosher Hotel Minora in Durban which is where my mother Zena and her very wealthy parents stayed when first arriving after a two week stay at the Mt. Nelson Hotel in the foothills of Table Mountain, Cape Town for two weeks where it was not only my granddad Al Ash [1899-1965] who met privately with General Smuts inside his private suite, Harry Oppenheimer had not gone blind.
You sent January 19 at 7:44 PM
Quite a few Jewish South African Chartered Accountants have made billions upon billions under the watchful eye of Harry Oppenheimer.
You sent January 19 at 7:45 PM
Who thinks if the Gambling Czar didn’t bring money to the table but knew how to design mega complex gambling casinos that the Gambling Czar as well as his pretty wife could be hired for a fraction of the cost than the value of the Gambling Czar’s empire?
You sent January 19 at 7:45 PM
Who would hire me to direct traffic on London’s M4 during rush hour and there is a blackout because all the cows enmasse decided to go “Moo”?
You sent January 19 at 7:46 PM
Should we take this to (the) top, and begin again?
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Cutting and pasting from fb group chat, Wow, very powerful:

9:26 PM Calif. time Gary Gevisser: Jonathan Gevisser, my second cousin and nephew of Engelhard Jr. “male heir” David Gevisser, left. Check out Jonathan Gevisser’s bio on 2facetruth.com Note how otherwise very quiet is Jonathan Gevisser.

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You sent Today at 9:37 PM Jonathan Gevisser, are you sure you don’t want to say anything about your uncle David Gevisser? You teach underprivileged black South Africans. So you talk. How have you gone about explaining that their rights have been withheld because real estate inflationary wars have prevented that from happening; and of course many white South Africans who don’t have the luxury of inheritance monies or close business ties with the SA Oppenheimers are also pretty much in the same boat? You sent Today at 9:38 PM Speak up Jonathan. I know you have a big voice.
You sent Today at 9:39 PM Should we talk more about your grandmother Janie Moshal Gevisser?

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and why Janie, standing right behind me, was the only member of your side of the family at our 1967 Passover dinner?
4 children and bunches of grandchildren and even great grandchildren, yet Janie Moshal Gevisser

decided the time was right to send you all a very clear message.
You sent Today at 9:53 PM Author Mark Gevisser [eldest son of turncoat, hypocrite David Gevisser], don’t you want to try helping your first cousin Jonathan Gevisser?
You sent Today at 9:54 PM Who thinks it is a scary situation when the rich liberal opposition are all bought?
You sent Today at 10:02 PM A lot of people are freezing to death tonight. You can’t move your lips to do the right thing. What sort of animal is this who can see how wrong it all is just by the way not one of you point to the next out of line. Instead you point a finger at me but you cant argue against the truth-logic. What sort of human is this? There is order to this universe. Those people are freezing to death because you simply can’t handle the truth. This is punishment for you individually and collectively, isn’t it?
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You sent January 20 at 7:23 AM
In a 24 minute phone conversation with Jewish South African Solly Krok that ended at 7:14 AM Calif. time, just 6 minutes ago, we covered a lot of ground, and the most important I will now touch on.
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You sent January 20 at 7:28 AM
Michael Teger, Solly’s one son in law, married to Solly’s daughter Arlene will no doubt remember Solly who was born 2 days before my mother Zena who was born the day after Solly’s identical twin brother Abe

telling Michael and his 3 sons including the one Dylan Chad Treger who graduated Stanford University here in the United States that universities graduate academics and they don’t teach street smarts.
You sent January 20 at 7:32 AM
The reality which is coming home to Solly as it is to each of you is that the modern day human only listens if it means money in their pocket from the person doing the talking and still it is only lip service.
You sent January 20 at 7:35 AM
The next point which Solly made is that when a Jewish person such as Solly asks a rabbi, “Where was God during the slaughter of the innocent 6 million?” the rabbis, including our Durban rabbi Abner Weiss who Solly says he is in contact with, respond, “We don’t talk about that”.
You sent January 20 at 7:36 AM
How in God’s name is it possible to continue a conversation with such morons other than who else do you speak to when your own children and grandchildren only give you lip service?
You sent January 20 at 7:37 AM
Solly has guests coming over shortly and he is preparing for that.
You sent January 20 at 7:38 AM
I am not suggesting that Solly is personally butchering the cow or preparing the rest of the dinner.
You sent January 20 at 7:39 AM
Nor is Solly thinking that he is going to spend tonight in the freezing cold lying on a concrete sidewalk.
You sent January 20 at 7:44 AM
Solly also made it clear that he does not know this Chaim Paddaman is facebook account and told him that he needed to build up his facebook friends in order to get a presence on the Internet to sell his “Stop the Wolf at the Door” [sic] charitable foundation and in the process these advisors have failed miserably because no one is contributing but word is getting out.
You sent January 20 at 7:46 AM
There are more people on To be honest listening carefully because you have been raised for 5 generations listening to people who are worthless academics or those dangling money at the end of your noses.
You sent January 20 at 7:48 AM
Isn’t it totally marvelous that everyone is finding out at the very same time that rabbis don’t have a good answer to the loss of 6 million Jewish people and yet they have this “blind faith” belief in God? Sounds very Christian, doesn’t it?
You sent January 20 at 7:48 AM
So why do they call themselves rabbis when their goal is like any business person to make money anyway they can?
You sent January 20 at 7:51 AM
It wasn’t difficult for me to explain to Solly that unless you blame God for everything, good as well as bad, it is only the rabbis and rich Jewish people who are mostly to blame for the rise of Nazi Germany because it is such people who feared communism more than a nutcase like Hitler who like any politician wouldn’t last forever.
You sent January 20 at 7:53 AM
It didn’t take long to get rid of 6 million who one couldnt expect to breed more sensitive humans than what we have today and we just care about who is going to give us what we want.
You sent January 20 at 7:55 AM
The idea of community ended the moment we were marched out of the fields into the stifling cities with their dazzling light shows including head lights on vehicles carrying human ants from one spot to the next all in support of the atrocious GDP economic index.
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You sent January 20 at 7:56 AM
When I was growing up including when getting my economic-finance university schooling out of the way, there were no jobs for economists. Economists could only find jobs teaching economics at university.
You sent January 20 at 7:58 AM
Today there is a proliferation of economists advising business people like Solly Krok where to invest their money to get the highest returns to help bring up the poor of the world which most all of you don’t want because who is going to do your butchering and preparation of the meal if you are all equal and sitting at the dinner table?
You sent January 20 at 7:58 AM
How many of you men do the picking up off the table and then washing and drying the dishes?
You sent January 20 at 8:01 AM
How many of you housewives are no longer impressed by the huge amount of monies your husbands have grabbed hold of during the day all in support of the people most responsible for not only our Jewish Holocaust but all the atrocities that followed and you all know they are not going to end the very moment President elect Chairman Joe Biden becomes President of the United States.
You sent January 20 at 8:01 AM
How many of you are planning on joining Biden and Hunter on their next trips to China and become filthy rich international business people?
You sent January 20 at 8:02 AM
Remember, the Chinese are an ancient culture.
You sent January 20 at 8:02 AM
Many thousands of years long in the tooth, lying, stealing and cheating.
You sent January 20 at 8:03 AM
There really isn’t all that much us westerners can teach the Chinese.
You sent January 20 at 8:03 AM
They are also pretty good at warfare.
You sent January 20 at 8:05 AM
Even the Boxers were good at close arm combat except that their weaponry were quite inferior and still Boxers came really close to winning at least in that one war which had they won at the turn of the century while the Anglo “American” Boer War [1899-1902] was in full swing then the next war they would have been totally crushed.
You sent January 20 at 8:07 AM
But as you have learned recently in class, there is very little weaponry advantage of one side over the next other than intelligence gathering which is not a new subject to either the Chinese or the Russians.
You sent January 20 at 8:08 AM
With the battlefield being increasingly one side no better equipped than the next, all that remains is to fight over the money.
You sent January 20 at 8:08 AM
That is what you are doing here.
You sent January 20 at 8:11 AM
We all know that God didn’t create the GDP economic index which gives the country or region of the world importing the raw materials the right to crow the loudest that they are the best and greatest so long as they have not only the military might advantage but a willingness to silence their opponents.
You sent January 20 at 8:15 AM
Chairman Biden succeeded in silencing his opponents in the second to last debate with President Trump because Biden had the moderator Chris Wallace in his back pocket and Wallace refused to get into the discussion about the laptop hardrive or what former US Navy lieutenant Tony Bobulinski had to say which completely contradicted everything that Chairman Biden had to say.
You sent January 20 at 8:15 AM
So it is wrong to say that Trump was his own worst enemy for Tweeting too much.
You sent January 20 at 8:16 AM
Trump’s only problem was the same problem each of you has which is your astounding poor knowledge of history because your teachers including your rabbis were either dimwits or corrupt.
You sent January 20 at 8:17 AM
Since even the most religious of you can agree that God did not invent the GDP index, it is only man who is responsible for that calamity that has only got worse over the years despite the appearance of zoom.
You sent January 20 at 8:18 AM
If you have money in your pocket your jokes are more likely to be appreciated than someone who is broke.
You sent January 20 at 8:18 AM
But none of you are very funny because to be funny you first of all need to have intellect.
You sent January 20 at 8:20 AM
Is it possible that all the rabbis were corrupt when the GDP was introduced in 1934 before any of the death factories had been erected? No, because their offspring, many of whom became rabbis would have chosen to become corrupt business people instead rather than sound totally stupid, “We don’t talk about that!”
You sent January 20 at 8:22 AM
When a religious preacher doesn’t want to talk about God then what good is that relgious person other than they want to deprive you of their wealth by telling you all these horrific stories of poor Jewish people not able to feed themselves during this pandemic?
You sent January 20 at 8:24 AM
Let’s go with the argument that God exists and created the deplorable GDP just to show us human meteors how incredibly dumb we are even though when we are healthy we know to fuck and produce worthless academics like most all of Solly Krok’s grandchildren who have graduated university including Dylan Chad Treger who may still be one of my facebook friends. Let me check, I will be right back.
You sent January 20 at 8:26 AM
Dylan is no longer one of my facebook friends, and let me now check if he has blocked me on fb messaging. I will be right back.
You sent January 20 at 8:32 AM
Sorry about that. It took me longer than I expected because I had to scroll through a lot of names amongst my facebook messaging to locate street smarts deprived Dylan Chad Krok.
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You sent January 20 at 8:37 AM
My last communication to Dylan before he blocked me on facebook messaging which you now know he blocked me because he felt he got out of me all that he needed and to see if withdrawing into the woodwork would help sooth his mind, was on Jan 6 at 12:30 PM Calif. time. My message wasn’t very complicated, “Would you be interested to see the email I just sent Clint Obert of Earthing?” Many others received that same message and not all of them decided to block me when choosing not to answer and still remain my facebook friend. Prior to that communication, I had sent the following message to Dylan on January 2, the day after New Year’s Day, at 9:15 AM: “Btw, when you look at the Forbes list of billionaires remember to laugh at Nick Oppenheimer looking like he is poor.”
You sent January 20 at 8:39 AM
Note that a member left just earlier and chose to hide their name making it that much more difficult to figure out who they are and those of you paying attention would know how to do that and if not may I suggest you enquire from South African Chartered Accountant i.e. glorified bookkeeper David Levy, a former Jewish Captain in the SA Oppenheimer’s murderous Apartheid Regime.
You sent January 20 at 8:41 AM
Doesn’t Putin look more and more human with his dismissiveness in eliminating all his opposition at the same time building himself a palace that is the envy of Hitler?
You sent January 20 at 8:41 AM
Remember Putin nor Biden nor Trump nor the Clintons nor George W. Bush nor Obama created the GDP index.
You sent January 20 at 8:42 AM
What confounds you also isn’t who was responsible for it because you can’t do anything about it.
You sent January 20 at 8:42 AM
It is so incredibly insane you have to wonder whether God had a hand in it?
You sent January 20 at 8:43 AM
If God had a hand in it, even if only one little finger, then God must have a had in everything including each and every one of your ugly minds.
You sent January 20 at 8:44 AM
In 1934 even though Solly Krok was older than both his identical twin brother and my mother Zena his grasp of world militarism was very narrow indeed.
You sent January 20 at 8:46 AM
A 5 year old cannot even be a professional cricketer or basketball player, but it does need to be fed, housed and clothed.
You sent January 20 at 8:47 AM
How do we explain that in the intervening years there is no one other than me pointing a finger at the humans who most profited from this joke of jokes?
You sent January 20 at 8:48 AM
Let’s step back a little.
You sent January 20 at 8:48 AM
A lot of people are freezing to death tonight. You can’t move your lips to do the right thing. What sort of animal is this who can see how wrong it all is just by the way not one of you point to the next out of line. Instead you point a finger at me but you cant argue against the truth-logic. What sort of human is this? There is order to this universe. Those people are freezing to death because you simply can’t handle the truth. This is punishment for you individually and collectively, isn’t it?
You sent January 20 at 8:49 AM
Michael Treger when you next visit with your one son Dylan Chad Treger are you going to question his street smarts or lack of common sense?
You sent January 20 at 8:50 AM
How can a stupid person even begin to question God when it is obvious that the GDP is so incredibly stupid that man doesnt even have the imagination for such utter stupidity?
You sent January 20 at 8:51 AM
Sympathy must also be given to the idiot rabbis who proclaim, “We don’t talk about it.”
You sent January 20 at 8:51 AM
These rabbis must be “men of God” because they just accept that it is what it is.
You sent January 20 at 8:52 AM
Now we have obsoleted the need for worthless rabbis who just keep eating till they drop their pants.
You sent January 20 at 8:53 AM
A key component of the “order of things” is predicting the future.
You sent January 20 at 8:54 AM
None of you give a rat’s ass what Trump is going to be doing next other than those of you who have fat, ugly wives or no one beautiful to make love to, are envious that he still currently has a beautiful looking wife to go home to.
You sent January 20 at 8:55 AM
Remember even the cold blooded killer Gary Gilbmore who won his right to be killed by a firing squad had tons of women including his very attractive girlfriend wanting to have sex with him even when he was on death row.
You sent January 20 at 8:56 AM
Let’s face it if you were really turned on by your spouse sexually, you wouldn’t be on facebook.
You sent January 20 at 8:56 AM
You are all the same and Solly Krok isn’t the only one who recognizes this because you are all the same, as treacherous and stupid as the next person.
You sent January 20 at 8:57 AM
How could you not look at the economic factors that led to the extrardinary rise of militarism following the devastation of World War I?
You sent January 20 at 8:58 AM
Of course blame the universities for graduating academics or blame God. You can’t have it both ways even if you are transgender.
You sent January 20 at 8:59 AM
BTW have you noticed that Chairman Biden’s choice for Assistant Secretary of Health looks incredibly unhealthy because he-she is?
You sent January 20 at 9:00 AM
The design of the stupendous GDP which gives each of you a gutfull of inordinate pain is so incredibly wicked you have to think of the presense of something such as the Devil.
You sent January 20 at 9:00 AM
So weak man got tempted, took the bait and you are all a product of that.
You sent January 20 at 9:01 AM
Solly, Im going to call you shortly to see what you had for dessert.
You sent January 20 at 9:03 AM
Who here thinks when they next negotiate with the Chinese Communist Party chiefs they are going to come out on top?
You sent January 20 at 9:04 AM
Chairman Biden and his team including of course Jeffrey Robert Krinsk Esq. will have thought this all through allowing with our American Generals and Admirals of the Fleets.
You sent January 20 at 9:05 AM
So really there is little for the rest of us to think about and so we might as well enjoy the inaguration unless the sight of the Bidens is simply too painful.
You sent January 20 at 9:06 AM
To be clear, I did not vote for Trump in this last election or the previous election because why bother when the plebes don’t want to hear about the GDP and the distinct advantage it gives the least innovative humans.
You sent January 20 at 9:07 AM
I will assume that what keeps most all of you still here is wanting to hear my mother Zena’s voice and then you will all leave together?
You sent January 20 at 9:08 AM
None of you are really my and my mother’s friend and that automatically means you are each other’s best friends unless you are an automaton?
You sent January 20 at 9:10 AM
Solly Krok is not the only person who knows that in well under 30 years most of us here will be dead or wish we will be dead given how obvious it is that us humans are the worst “menteor” [sic] to have struck this earth since the extermination of the Dinasours some 63 million years ago.
You sent January 20 at 9:11 AM
Your contribution is obviously much greater than compost.
You sent January 20 at 9:11 AM
You prove that man’s awareness, his consciousness doesnt touch sides with that of the Creator.
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You sent January 20 at 9:32 AM
While the sun is still shining bright, the rain coming over the mountain is beginning followed by expected snow. Totally awesome.
You sent January 20 at 9:33 AM
Edits will follow after I get to enjoy this massive transformation of GoDNature.
You sent January 20 at 9:34 AM
The wind is now picking up driving the necessary cold to create the snow.
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You sent January 20 at 10:28 AM
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You sent January 20 at 10:29 AM
Again, it could have been a nervous twitch.
You sent January 20 at 10:30 AM
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You sent January 20 at 10:37 AM
Once the edits are completed, I will get into why the Jews of South Africa were the most reliable informers; in other words traitors and profiteers of the SA Oppenheimer’s Aparthteid Regime; and most of course with a “liberal” political bent as they are today throughout the world; and very active in getting fellow Jews to vote and speak out against injustice.
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You sent January 20 at 5:40 PM
The thinking today is old, ugly thinking.
There was community thinking even if everyone didnt get along perfectly.
Now its each person out for themselves.
Its everyone is a crook, and you dont have to look far. But the disunity is the silver lining. Im not saying buy Bitcoin or silver. Im simply saying there is a great deal of anger out there and none of you are immune.
If you don’t eat healthy and you have already begun to feel your body slowing down, and that today could easily be before reaching puberty, you are always hungry.
Not a very strong case for an omnipotent being who is all about good.
Then again if you have trouble with your memory, a big part of the brain you can try scolling back up, but more likely you would prefer not; again, more evidence of free will that most all other animals and insects don’t have.
That of course begs the question of why us so destructive, so nasty to the good have the clear ability, each of us, to choose a path, but the one we most often choose, the one that gives us the greatest pleasure is to ugly in line with how most of us age?
A hungry lion will eat anything including its feeder if left unfed.
But we are not all out on the wilds of Africa, we are city dwellers and we think we know everything because we read the right newspapers and listen to the right TV stations that tell us what we want to hear most which is the crap on the next person and we know why we like our favorite singers.
There it is much more objective. Again there is refinement in our thinking that we can argue logically with the next person.
Again order, logic is also demanding of us until we decide that change is too much trouble and to ignore.
But how do you explain if you are a rich fat cat either through inheritance or just plain simple luck how you missed altogether the calamity of the GDP?
Simple, you cannot.
You get so ugly and so quickly you forget everything else including the huge complexity of the plumbing system of the human creation that looks so similar to other species that we think nothing of it.
The human is so full of hate and yet it wants to put on a showface that it is caring being, concerned with the safety of all. Give me a break. When you can’t trust yourself you begin to questioin everyone around you. It happened to Trump and it happened to the rest of them before him. We are a society of untrustworthy politicians and so why surprise that our worst politicians rise to the very top?
Im no expert on the human body, but I have the intellect to appreciate it, and the more we recognize such ingenioius design which is a little more sophisticated than your indoor plumbing which if you live in a highrise is so much more convenient that an outhouse, it should if all systems are firing right in the brain, dependent upon the rest such as blood vessels carrying oxygen to the brain needed to think otherwise it is one thick skull, the quieter becomes the mind which in turn leads to the great achievement of modesty.
You sent January 20 at 5:41 PM
Being modest does not mean you should turn yourself into a rug for everyone who is full of themselves to walk over.
You sent January 20 at 6:01 PM
This past January 10 at 7:01 AM California, a man on facebook by the name Mark Farmer, a self-described professional chef with rather unique government cyberwarfare-parachutist trainer wrote to me on fb messaging words to the effect that I should buzz off. His exact words Im not able to retreive at the present time and the message from facebook explains this difficulty rather clearly in the top left hand corner, “This webpage is using significant energy. Closing …”
You sent January 20 at 6:02 PM
9 odd minutes later, 7:10 AM was the last message I received from Farmer and what I best recall is that it began, “I know everything…”
You sent January 20 at 6:03 PM
What makes Farmer interesting is that he in addition to have cheffed directly for Nick Oppenheimer at his private wild life animal preserve in Botswana, he used to live next door to Brandon Kerzner , one of Sol “Gambling Czar” Kerzner’s offspring and they remain best friends.
You sent January 20 at 6:06 PM
If I met Brandon Kerzner it would have only been when he was very young when I was visiting with his eldest sister Andrea either in Johannesburg or Cape Town. What is most certain is that I wouldn’t have shared with him at the time all my knowledge about the war business and how caught up in it all was his very unwitting multi-billionaire father who shows his naivette by all his “ups and downs”.
You sent January 20 at 6:08 PM
That is not to suggest that Gambling Czar Kernzer was incapable of getting angry, only that Harry Oppenheimer perched high above Kerzner from the very start when he built destination spot Beverly Hills Hotel in Umhlanga Rocks, north of Durban central, derived great satisfaction watching all the performances.
You sent January 20 at 6:12 PM
Another item of certainty is that when Kerzner celebrated his 75th birthday with a bash in St. Tropez https://pagesix.com/2010/08/30/sol-kerzners-75th-birthday-bash-in-st-tropez/ Harry Oppenheimer had been dead going on a decade by which time any and all Oppenheimer’s unanswered questions would have been answered assuming of course this One God exists which the order of things suggests very strongly.
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You sent January 20 at 6:13 PM
But then that is only my opinion and each of us have to make up our own minds including figuring out what day it is.
You sent January 20 at 6:15 PM
Brandon would recall that the tabloid press had a field day covering his father’s 75th birthday celebrations that supposedly attracted the biggest names on the A List such as Ivanka Trump, Joan Collins, Denise Rich, Elle Macpherson, Elton John and Hugh Grant.
You sent January 20 at 6:17 PM
As the clock moved forward a little over a year and the family war clouds had settled somewhat https://i1.wp.com/www.showbiz411.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/atlantis-bahamas.jpg?fit=500%2C375&ssl=1 those watching the SA Oppenheimer induced Punch and Judy Show got a close up view of a heavily dysfunctional Jewish South African family.
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You sent January 20 at 6:19 PM
Given how we have seen that people who come from nothing like President Barack Obama do nothing for the poor of the world other than exacerbate their desperate lives, it would be wrong to paint all the rich including those who inherit all their weatlth which in turn leads to introductions of more money connections with a broad brush.
You sent January 20 at 6:22 PM
Brandon Kerzner knows as well as his siblings that he can’t recall asking God to bring him into this “I scratch your back, you scratch my back” miserable world that lasts such a short time but during which it is mostly shit that happens and it gets harder to crap the more reckless one is with what is eaten, and consequently Brandon might be more open to a smarter path for us to choose then the one most of all of you have chosen.
You sent January 20 at 6:23 PM
Should I be wrong, it still doesn’t mean everyone who has chosen the bad path is right and that there are no consequences.
You sent January 20 at 6:23 PM
Again, this order of things cannot be overstated.
You sent January 20 at 6:31 PM
Now we just need to get the edits completed for today’s courseware while remembering Kerzner’s close buddy, my former client, multi-billionarie Solly Krok was the cleanest rich Jewish South African I knew and why I carefully selected him as one of my first clients back in the late 80s which took planning of course. No less important, I knew that I was spot on about Solly Krok the very moment Solly Krok’s youngest daughter Lauren mentioned that my cousin, the author-investigative journalist Mark Gevisser who is still with us, was about to come down on Solly Krok like a ton of bricks.
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You sent January 21 at 12:32 PM
You leave out the inheritance law while asserting correctly all children, born in the image of God are equal. Why is that? https://twitter.com/garygevisser/status/1352352393216757760?s=21
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Benas sent January 21 at 12:35 PM
Kindly remove me from this chat.Thank you
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Arnon sent January 21 at 1:36 PM
I would also like to be removed but this shmuck is adamant
You sent January 21 at 2:51 PM
@At on Zangwill, have you revisited our dialogue on Facebook messaging where you went quiet after seeing with your own eyes the corruption of the Rebbe Schneerson who in addition to preaching that there are no innocent victims to a crime, not even rape, stood silent as the last of the Israeli diamond merchants resisting the oppressive monopolistic business tactics of the virulent anti Semitic South African Oppenheimers were wiped out in the late 70s.
That also didn’t mean Israel Prime Minister Menachem Begin was innocent because he too was fully complicit. In supporting your position that you are a sophisticated Jewish South African business person now retired to Canada you impressed upon me that in South Africa you were a trusted packaging vendor of Solly Krok’s Twins Pharmaceutical empire. You must have been able read or did you simply deposit without looking at the checks @Solly Krok sent you because it would make no difference since you never learned to read. To call me a “schmuck” is defamatory especially since you know otherwise. In fact I believe it was said with malice.
You sent January 21 at 2:52 PM
Edit: @Arnon Zangwill, have you …
Arnon sent January 21 at 2:56 PM
How can I know otherwise if i dont know how you. Please delete me from your list
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You sent January 21 at 2:56 PM
Repeat Tucker Carlson: Shortly before he was assassinated in 1935, the populist Democrat Senator Huey Long of Louisiana had a flash of insight. If the U.S. ever winds up with a fascist government, Long said, “we’ll have it under the guise of anti-fascism.”
You sent January 21 at 3:03 PM
@Arnon Zangwill, why is your English so erratic and barely comprehensible? Why such deterioration since you read the deplorable teachings of The Rebbe? Do you feel that people look up to religious figures who get promoted by the biggest crooks because it makes them feel better about their own corruption? Who do you think chooses our religious leadership once they finish their religious studies and now have to start making a living? Would you expect corrupt business people who support all political parties to choose honest religious leaders to make amends for the corrupt politicians they pick? Arnon Zangwill, have you considered using your intuition to remove yourself? Wouldn’t you expect Mark Zuckerberg to make it intuitive?
You sent January 21 at 4:16 PM
Edit 1: Solly also made it clear that he does not know this Chaim Paddaman. The Public Relations firm that Solly hired to set up his facebook account told him … Edit 2: Chairman Biden and his team including of course Jeffrey Robert Krinsk Esq. will have thought this all through along with our American Generals and Admirals of the Fleets.
You sent January 21 at 5:26 PM
Arnon Zangwell, are you sure you dont want to hear how close Solly Krok came to being done in back in the fall of 1989? Solly is your friend right, or was your packaging-printing business and Twins Pharmeceuticals all about money and profit? Arnon, you have seen how the daggers are out on former President Trum from all sides. When the fascists which is just another name for dicators decide to do you in they don’t stop until you are stone cold dead. Remember that meteor could still happen and for certain all of us will be dead a 150 years from now and then what will be our legacy? If they can’t share a nice thought about my mother Zena why would someone like Solly Krok trust anyone?
You sent January 21 at 5:30 PM
Arnon, you know that if Solly Krok left so much as a cheap ring, his current heirs would move to have him declared mentally incompetent. They might already be moving in that direction by virtue that he and I still talk and both of us enjoy ourselves in those very funny conversations. Again reason you would think for the Poverty of Thought [POT] to at least have sat down with their lawyers to prepare, wouldn’t you think?
You sent January 21 at 5:32 PM
In fact you would expect Solly Krok by now to have had in his core group at least two tasters and when family members come over for dinner to at the very moment he is about to take his first bite, have his children and grandchildren and their respective spouses each take a bite of his plate, the food, not the plate itself, just to spare his tasters who would also only be doing it for the money.
You sent January 21 at 5:33 PM
So of course Solly Krok should make it perfectly clear to all his heirs that he is not going to add me to his will. And should Solly decide to change his mind, then all the prep work his heirs have already done wont be a waste of time.
You sent January 21 at 5:35 PM
So who thinks Solly Krok has to have lost his mind having me as a friend; and to top it off save on hiring two tasters who could still die from someone trying to kill Solly Krok?
You sent January 21 at 5:39 PM
Remember it was the most liberal Jewish South African Mark Gevisser who like his father David Gevisser publicly ridiculed the Apartheid Regime, called them rascist, anti-Semitic, stupid, white supremists, Nazis, fascists, but they sat for more than fancy dinners with the fascists, the anti-Semites, rascists, white supremists, Nazis and it was nothing but pure enjoyment.
You sent January 21 at 5:42 PM
How close did Mark Gevisser, a reporter for the New York Times, New Observer, The Nation etc etc come to doing Solly Krok in back in late October 1989? Guranteed had I not be there at the exact moment when Lauren Krok walked away from her office in tears having heard the message Mark Gevisser had left for her. My mother Zena also needed to be in New York at the time to help me make certain I got the message across to Mark Gevisser that he had stepped into a hornet’s nest.
You sent January 21 at 5:43 PM
It did not mean that my mother Zena was stupid in helping me pull out all stops to protect Solly Krok.
You sent January 21 at 5:44 PM
How do the bought opposition to the Apartheid Regime who have the world’s entire media bought dare to point a finger at Solly Krok?
You sent January 21 at 5:45 PM
When you have the corrupt opposition going after you, you know the opposition are very desperate and need to be stopped dead in their tracks.
You sent January 21 at 5:46 PM
My mother Zena and I were doing it for the sake of humanity, not Solly Krok or his children or for that matter the fledgling State of Israel that was not a decade into its fast decline.
You sent January 21 at 5:47 PM
Let’s think for a moment that despite all your beliefs that God doesn’t exist, that in fact God exists.
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You sent January 21 at 5:49 PM
Now I will have you focus on my father Bernie Gevisser who was not in New York City at the time but nor was my father on the far side of the moon.
You sent January 21 at 5:49 PM
A very smart man was my father Bernie and he could just sit there as everyone else spoke the biggest bunch of shit.
You sent January 21 at 5:52 PM
You really don’t feel the need to interrupt much when well under 1% of soldiers during World War II were pilots, and only a very small fraction of the pilots became fighter pilots and an even smaller fraction made the grade to earn Fighter Bomber Pilot wings and not all of them survived.
You sent January 21 at 5:57 PM
The biggest and most important question ever asked of my father Bernie following his return to South Africa on April 23, 1945, his 71st dive bombing mission taking place 8 days before which was 3 days after President Roosevelt died without stipulating that SA Oppenheimers should be tried for their genocide war crimes, took place on March 11, 2009 less than two months before his traitor first cousin, David Gevisser took his last breath.
From: Adam L. Tucker
Date: Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 10:01 AM
To: Bernie Gevisser <bernieg@tpg.com.au>
HI Bernie, I apologize for not replying sooner. We have never met, but I came across some information on the internet about Zena which included her memoirs that mentioned that her father-in-law owning land in Haifa Harbor and that her maternal grandmother, who helped raise her was one of the early residents of Tel-Aviv… I couldn’t help but wonder with all the strong connections to Israel, why you and Zena never immigrated to Israel especially considering the Apartheid government. My parents actually met on a Kibutz in 1972 and my father served on the Israeli Defense Force during the Yom Kippur War on the Egqyptian front in artilery defending oil lines.
My father’s response:
From: Bernie Gevisser <bernieg@tpg.com.au>
Date: Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 8:28 PM
To: Adam L. Tucker
Suggest that you ask my youngst son Gary.
You sent January 21 at 5:59 PM
I had last visited with my father some 5 years before when we discussed at length Professor E J Epstein’s The D I book.
You sent January 21 at 5:59 PM
My father could also read.
You sent January 21 at 5:59 PM
He knew it was the most explosive book ever written.
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You sent January 21 at 6:00 PM
It is the most explosive book ever written.
You sent January 21 at 6:01 PM
You know it first of all by how “academics” who should really going forward from today be known as “talkers” go about diffusing when first either told about the book or asked for their opinion.
You sent January 21 at 6:02 PM
Their reaction is enough to shut down all universities for no other purpose than to teach people how not to make babies and how to cook for everyone the healthiest meals in the world.
You sent January 21 at 6:02 PM
I would also never see my beloved father again.
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You sent January 21 at 6:03 PM
But that didn’t mean he refused to believe that he and my mother Zena would never die.
You sent January 21 at 6:03 PM
You have to do something great in your life, otherwise why are you here?
You sent January 21 at 6:05 PM
Mark Gevisser got stopped dead in his tracks but that was not the end of Solly Krok’s troubles because he was being hit from all sides which is what you expect from those who only say that are anti-fascism.
You sent January 21 at 6:09 PM
Next up the Quickwheel and all the forces we had to contend with in Holland who welcome Jewish real estate investors so long as they are sanctioned by the SA Oppenheimers-Deutsche Bank-IG Farben-Monsanto; without you forgetting my precision bombing Allied Fighter Bomber Pilot father Bernie Gevisser, “Suggest that you ask my youngst son Gary” [sic]. I throw in the Latin Adverb SIC, meaning thus or so because my father misspelled “youngest”.
You sent January 21 at 6:11 PM
Edit: … as a cheap ring to me …
You sent January 21 at 6:15 PM
Edit: … Israel that was now a decade into its fast decline.
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You sent January 22 at 8:37 AM
Today is 10 days before the 20th anniversary of the Jerusalem Post publishing the first of my four articles, all condemning the treason pardon of terrorist financier, Marc Rich who I first began learning about when I was on Ulpan-Gadna training at my mother Zena’s close and trusted friend going back 2 generations, Mossad head, David Ben Gurion’s kibbutz Sde Boker where another close and trusted friend of my mother Zena, Israel Air Force Colonel Boris Senior was a frequent visitor.
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You sent January 22 at 8:38 AM
During this 10 day period I had a great deal to think about given how I knew that I would soon be losing all my friends, assuming I wasn’t killed.
You sent January 22 at 8:40 AM
It makes no sense to be a martyr when the literate population demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt they are the worst type of thieves.
You sent January 22 at 8:45 AM
Btw, for those of you who don’t know, one of the best ways to get a fire going in a fireplace without using smelly fuel igniter material that is toxic is to bundle in paper without going overboard a few pieces of dried out oranges or lemons or limes, anything of the citrus family; and there is also the benefit of the pleasant aroma. Obviously you all realize it is the oil in the skin that does the trick.
You sent January 22 at 8:47 AM
In the event you never have to make fire you are still not prevented in passing this down.
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You sent January 22 at 9:00 AM
The only conversation I had with mother Zena once hearing of the Rich pardon which was worldwide news was that I planned to send the JP a short article. Unlike what I shared with my cousin Mark Gevisser in late October 1989 which was 21 years after my mother Zena was the most honored guest at the wedding of her client Aristotle Onassis to the former First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy who later shacked up with the monster Maurice Tempelsman who was Harry Oppenheimer’s handpicked surrogate responsible for ambitious Mobutu Sese Seko of the Congo having a field day playing ruthless dictator from 24 November 1965 – until 16 May 1997, everything I wrote came directly out of my head without the need to do any more research.
You sent January 22 at 9:00 AM
You all know, once you tell a secret it is no longer a secret.
You sent January 22 at 9:01 AM
Those who know, don’t talk; those who don’t, do all the talking.
You sent January 22 at 9:02 AM
A stupid person doesn’t know when to stop talking because they can’t bare the silence.
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You sent January 22 at 9:03 AM
An excellent case in point Roy Berelowitz.
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You sent January 22 at 9:05 AM
We will get to analyze altogether the weak mind of Roy Berelowitz which troubles him so much, the same with the rest who choose poorly to ignore the important truths.
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You added Roy Shotland to the group.
You added Danielle Shotland Movsowitz to the group.
You added Ryan Shotland to the group.
You sent January 22 at 9:10 AM
Once I crafted my first article an “open letter” to American-Israeli-Soviet spy Jonathan Pollard who was now in his 16th year of solitary confinement in a maximum security prison, I called up my mother to let her know that I was sending it via email to the Jerusalem Post without reading to my mother what I had written or discussing its content.
You sent January 22 at 9:12 AM
That is just to tell you that I am capable of original thought just in case you think Roy Berelowitz is the person who has taught me everything I know.
You sent January 22 at 9:15 AM
You can see that Arleen Shotland’s ex husband Neville Shotland left us just earlier without commenting on what Arleen first had to say about the traitor Durban North Lazarus clan and how quickly she went on to detail how much the rest of the Durban Jewish community dislike these turncoats.
You sent January 22 at 9:19 AM
You can also see that I have added 3 more Shotlands. If you check @Sidney Lazarus’ fb friends who he keeps open tabs on you will find a number if not all the Shotlands as you will most Durban Jewish South Africans. That is not a positive. But you all know, where there is negative there is always greater positive.
You sent January 22 at 10:22 AM
When you have both parents committed to justice and the greatest injustice of modern day times was our Jewish Holocaust which for good reason the mostly Christian and Muslim world are sick to death hearing about and why I will soon be transitioning, and both steeped deep in the nuances of gorilla warfare where the first order of business is to accuse the other side of your atrocities, neither of them need to be continuously reminded that the greatest threat to us Jewish people are bought Jewish people who can be counted on to be no less ruthless than the two branches of the Gestapo; namely the armed Zagiew Jewish collaboration network who roamed the cities and outskirts throughout Nazi occupied Europe including Belgium, Holland-Netherlands, and France and the Kapos inside the camps and death factories who didn’t even need a whistle to have the SS guards surrounding the perimeter squeeze the trigger.
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You sent January 22 at 10:35 AM
Read that much more carefully my mother’s memoir Life Story of Zena sent out first via email to a select group on 25 September 2001, 14 days after 9/11 which was 4 months and 11 odd days after my 4th article exposing the treason pardon of terrorist financier Marc Rich was published in the Jerusalem Post.
Neither my sister Kathy nor her husband David Danziger nor my middle brother Melvin’s ex wife Terry Orman Gevisser who is also still with us were included in the first broadcast.
They only were sent a copy of the first broadcast much later, October 9, 2001 as you can see.
Both my parents hadn’t given up hope that my 3 elder siblings would come around and applaud both my knowledge of traitor Marc Rich and my courage to do the right thing with time running out for us questioning Jewish people as the hoarded of Jewish turncoats grew in size while encircling us.
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You sent January 22 at 10:36 AM
It is not a nice feeling when the wolves knocking at your door are your own flesh and blood.
You sent January 22 at 10:38 AM
But nor is this a new thing for us Jewish because our history is full of turncoats and of course any scholar of Jewish history knows the stronger tribes of Israel lost the weakest by massacring them.
You sent January 22 at 10:43 AM
But when faced with a common enemy like Nazi Germany-Austria and the rest in Amsterdam and Paris can’t wait to ship off their Jewish neighbors to the camps in order to grab their homes and businesses on the cheap and that simply meant having a banker or friend to give you the money, us Jewish people could unite and when we did, with our backs to the wall, we excelled.
You sent January 22 at 10:45 AM
Now to be clear, those days are long over and now it is just a matter of sharing the spoils of war fairly in places like Yemen, Somalia, Arab Emirates, Qatar, London, New York City, Beirut and Aleppo, Syria.
You sent January 22 at 10:49 AM
However on May 1, 2001 when my 4th article was published and anyone knowing the history of the Jerusalem Post which goes back to 1932 including my parents understands perfectly that my articles were the most accurate and controversial in the history of the Jerusalem Post and why it is that the weak of spirit don’t dare to comment on any of the four.
You sent January 22 at 10:51 AM
So for newcomers let’s look at the 4th:
Holocaust demonstrated so well is that human deprivation occurs incrementally. It starts with simple massacres; you shoot the first innocent person and then you shoot the next set of people and after you realize that you cannot shoot enough people you look to more efficient methods such as gas chambers. This is why weapons of mass destruction are developed and why chemical warfare is so frightening. Saddam Hussein understands this. Bob Kerrey, former U.S. Senator and presidential hopeful, took the first step down this frightening path while a U.S. Naval Seal and stopped.
On the other hand, Jonathan Pollard, the convicted spy, did not need to kill anyone to understand the consequences of weapons of mass destruction before he blew the whistle on what he saw cross over his desk at Naval Intelligence.
The rewards in America for covering up your sins or revealing the truth are indeed ironic. In this instance Kerrey received the nation’s highest award of valor while Pollard’s reward is going on sixteen years of hard time. In war both sides commit atrocities, which is the whole point of peacemakers in attempting to prevent future atrocities.
It is in the gray area of corrupt secret policies such as the ill-conceived CIA support of Iraq in supporting Saddam’s chemical warfare production that was ultimately aimed against Israel – a policy that is so incomprehensible to anyone who has relatives that lived through the Holocaust. Were there only one witness to Kerrey’s atrocity, this cover-up would have remained with those who elected to follow their leader [which led directly to Kerrey’s Bronze Star that stated that twenty-one Vietcong were killed in this incident, a clear lie which could have been refuted at any time including the moment at which President Nixon personally awarded him the Congressional Medal of Honor].
What was going through his mind at that moment when the President of the United States was reading the commendation for heroism to him personally? Is this public persecution of the whistle blower by the political elite and the press in America any different than that they imposed on Jonathan Pollard?
The only difference is there was no corroborating witness and Pollard stands alone in revealing the conspiracy of the misguided CIA policy aimed at the Jewish State which ironically was probably used against U.S. soldiers during the Gulf War. Whose sin is greater; Pollard’s for violating an American secrecy law that could have lead to the death of hundreds of thousands of Israeli citizens to prevent another Holocaust or Kerrey’s sin, which clearly led to the murder of at least thirteen innocent people? Pollard has already spent 15 years, one-third of his life, in an American prison while Kerrey spent the same time in two of America’s most exalted political offices; knowing full well that he had lied while serving his country. Where is the justice in the American judicial system? Where is the forgiveness in Bob Kerrey’s heart?
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You sent January 22 at 10:52 AM
Who doesn’t like, “… human deprivation occurs incrementally”?
You sent January 22 at 10:55 AM
If you don’t have a mother beautiful enough and smarter than any other person on the planet to attract and marry the best looking Jewish Fighter Bomber Pilot such as my father Bernie then you would have to wait in line for someone as ugly as David Gevisser or his elder brother Leslie the father of Jonathan Gevisser
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You sent January 22 at 10:57 AM
who sat out World War 2 in a German prisoner of war camp.
You sent January 22 at 10:59 AM
For those of you who haven’t read the dialogue of black South African Tefo Mohapi with both @Jonathan Gevisser and his first cousin @Mark Gevisser, then you are in for a treat.
You sent January 22 at 11:10 AM
But because I don’t have a human army behind me yet, multitasking is also made that much more difficult; again let me emphasize at the present time, 11:09 AM California time, January 22, 2021, the 42nd anniversary of the very bloody assassination of terrorist mastermind, 37 year old Ali Salameh .
You sent January 22 at 11:11 AM
I’m also slowed down by the small keyboard on my iPhone where the signal is weak and sporadic which is what I like and turning on the WiFi connected to a satellite dish installed by my fb friend Allen Walker who is also fb friends with America’s richest and most powerful litigator @Jeffrey Robert Krinsk Esq as well as Jeffrey’s first wife since 2001, @Marcy Campbell Krinsk and Walker says that he doesn’t know either of them and he simply accepted their fb friend invitation, would only amplify the cancer causing free radicals which also don’t do the mind good.
You sent January 22 at 11:18 AM
As you can all see, all 3, Jeffrey who is also a member of the Democratic National Committee which means he has heard of Chairman Joe Biden as well as his crack cocaine addict son Hunter Biden
You sent January 22 at 11:19 AM

You sent January 22 at 11:56 AM
as well as Marcy and Allen are all still with us here on To be honest.
One can only imagine how tough a job it is to manage anyone with holes in their brain further amplified by their father, the Chairman constantly reminding the world that Hunter Biden is the smartest person he has ever met, but I’m sure the money Jeffrey brings home being the General Partner of Rosemont Realty helps overcome many of the frustrations.
Nor does it mean that because both Jeffrey and Marcy remain members of To be honest they have forgotten about me entirely. While Marcy is busy being a Social Justice Activist and encouraging people to stay home during this pandemic which isn’t easy when you can’t afford a home in La Jolla and lack money to fill your refrigerator if only you had a refrigerator light enough to carry on your back, Jeffrey’s duties go beyond the all powerful DNC, and include the Speaker’s Cabinet of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC), a founding member of the 2009 Inaugural Committee and he also serves on certain California governmental committees at the request of Governor Jerry Brown’s administration.
It is reasonable for anyone to conclude that while I’m called things like “schmuck” and “again Gary has forgotten to take his meds” Jeffrey Krinsk Esq has never taken me for a fool. We have known each other intimately since early 1999 when first meeting at the upscale Matre D, 5523 La Jolla Blvd, which I was now checking its menu to share with you all today’s special but it is now permanently closed, sorry about that.
You sent January 22 at 11:59 AM
Present was not his best friend and law partner, former United States Attorney, Howard Finkelstein Esq who gave a much longer speech than me at Jeffrey and Marcy’s wedding. That is because Howard had previously pissed off the owners of Matre D and he had been banned.
You sent January 22 at 12:02 PM
I’m not suggesting that Howard Finkelstein Esq was then interned at Auschwitz and starved to death because to the best of my knowledge Howard was not born on January 27, 1945 when Auschwitz was liberated by the Russian Red Army.
You sent January 22 at 1:31 PM
There are more cerebral matters I plan to bring to your attention and you note that Asne Goodman who earlier asked to be removed from this meeting but couldn’t figure out how to do it on her own has been giving “thumbs up, but in order to better appreciate the fear of Jewish people throughout the world of the Jewish Zagiews-Kapos below is the list of Shotlands that Sidney Larzarus, again the only son of Jewish Kapo Gunter “The Pig” Lazarus publicly provides: Danielle Shotland Movsowitz 2 mutual friends Add Friend Loren Shotland Carr Client Service and Relationship Manager at MBS Insurance Add Friend Arleen Shotland 3 mutual friends Add Friend Neville Shotland Salt Rock Add Friend Neville Shotland 1 mutual friend Add Friend Arleen Shotland 4 mutual friends Add Friend Roy Shotland 5 mutual friends Add Friend Neville Shotland 3 mutual friends Add Friend Marc Shotland 5 mutual friends Add Friend J Desiree Shotland 3 mutual friends Add Friend Paula Shotland Add Friend Craig Shotland 2 mutual friends Add Friend Ryan Shotland 3 mutual friends Add Friend Barbara Shotland University of Natal, Durban Add Friend Barbara Shotland 1 mutual friend Add Friend
You sent January 22 at 1:32 PM
Note that Arleen Shotland and Neville Shotland are on that list.
You sent January 22 at 1:33 PM
Sidney Lazarus also provides the public with a list of our mutual facebook friends:
Aharon Rose 93 mutual friends Friends Allan Zulberg 163 mutual friends Friends Alon Feldman 91 mutual friends Friends Arnold Gerson 5 mutual friends Friends Arthur Goldstuck 75 mutual friends Friends Brad Awerbuch Owner-operator at Atlas Export Agencies Friends Carole Day 2 mutual friends Friends Dan Tollman 5 mutual friends Friends Dave Phillips 11 mutual friends Friends Debra Shirken Sartori 3 mutual friends Friends Desi Krok 8 mutual friends Friends Dovi Yael Rabin 23 mutual friends Friends Esmond Jacobson 3 mutual friends Friends Gary Herbert 17 mutual friends Friends Gavin Strous 8 mutual friends Friends Gidon Frame 9 mutual friends Friends Gregory Lex Blank 86 mutual friends Friends Howard Lichter 96 mutual friends Friends Ian Zackon 47 mutual friends Friends Ilan Kirkel 105 mutual friends Friends Issy Fisher 7 mutual friends Friends Janine Bell 3 mutual friends Friends Jonathan Birin 183 mutual friends Friends Jonny Ritz 29 mutual friends Friends Larry Shain 53 mutual friends Friends Micha-el Frame 9 mutual friends Friends Paul Bushnell 13 mutual friends Friends Rav Moshe Silberhaft 86 mutual friends Friends Solly Krok 215 mutual friends Friends Stan Smookler 157 mutual friends Friends Stanley Hurwitz 12 mutual friends Friends Steven Blend 46 mutual friends Friends Steven Joffe 22 mutual friends Friends Toni Katz Copans 70 mutual friends Friends Yehiel Asseraf 24 mutual friends Friends Yudi Cohen 110 mutual friends Friends
You sent January 22 at 1:34 PM
Note that none of the Shotlands are facebook friends of mine.
You sent January 22 at 1:35 PM
Who thinks none of Sidney Lazarus’ Facebook friends are two-faced?
You sent January 22 at 1:36 PM
Steven Bailey, you are two-faced, what percentage of facebook users would you say are two-faced?
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You sent January 22 at 1:36 PM
Allen Walker, you are online, what percentage would you say?
You sent January 22 at 1:36 PM
Asne Goodman, what number would you put it at?
You sent January 22 at 1:37 PM
Roy Berelowitz, what is your number?
You sent January 22 at 1:38 PM
Who thinks the number of two-faced people in the world has no bearing on how to make money?
You sent January 22 at 1:39 PM
Who thinks Solly Krok would have more time to himself if he didn’t have the Lubavitcher and his family members constantly visiting and calling reminding him not to leave them out of his will if he was broke?
You sent January 22 at 1:46 PM
@Jeffrey Robert Krinsk Esq. there is a potential class action lawsuit against Farmers Insurance that is right up your alley, and I also know how busy you are with all the work needed to undo what President Trump was responsible for, still I think you want to take a look at it even if Chairman Biden is focused on how best to deal with the Chinese Communist Party should they decide to invade Taiwan. I might just email you the particulars and when you get it, you will get to it.
You sent January 22 at 1:47 PM
@Lynda Egnos, you gave just ealier a cross face after I wrote “Steven Bailey, you are two-faced, what percentage of facebook users would you say are two-faced?” Could you explain more? What percentage of fb users would you say are two-faced?
You sent January 22 at 2:17 PM
It does get more cerebral, I promise you.
You sent January 22 at 2:25 PM
We are talking intelligence even if you prefer that it is not true, the clear thinking that you need intellect to have morals, because who wants to think that their lack of morals is because of an intellect problem when your entire thinking is that you have accumulated the money and the wealth because you have been smarter at cheating than the next person you are competing against?
If your father was not, repeat, was not a most accomplished World War II Allied Fighter Bomber Pilot, motorcycle racing at the The Isle of Man TT (Tourist Trophy ) is about the closest thing, but still way off compared moving in on your target at a speed well exceeding 800 kilometers per hour – 500 MPH – with high explosive projectives along with no less rapid machine gun fire aimed directly at the cockpit to kill, and knowing that the incredible Gs you are pulling will automatically have you blacking out when pulling up between 50 feet and 100 feet from the top of the surrounding houses – because if you only pull up when hitting the front door it is far too late – all the while having scored a Direct Hit with your 3 Five Hundred Pound high explosive bombs which have also damaged the main body of aircraft which is nothing less than a flying bomb.

You sent January 22 at 2:28 PM
So, in order, to give perspective, lets look at what the very best motorcycle racers encounter at the annual Isle of Man TT (Tourist Trophy) which in its 100 year history has claimed more than 200 lives.
You sent January 22 at 2:29 PM
Again, remember these riders are the very best in the world and their arithmetic can tell them 2 deaths every year on average means they have to stay awake.
You sent January 22 at 2:31 PM
Probably the best motorcycle rider of all time is Guy Martin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Naz5gz_zyRc
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You sent January 22 at 2:32 PM
He most often, if not all the time, rides “lucky” number 8 https://www.2facetruth.com/think/
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You sent January 22 at 2:33 PM
They mean it when they say that a rider who crashes at 170 miles per hour doesn’t get.
You sent January 22 at 2:34 PM
Again to get to ride in the TT you have to have nerves of steel which comes from being a great motorcycle rider.
You sent January 22 at 2:35 PM
When you see the motorcycle pass by the camera lens, it is what you see.
You sent January 22 at 2:36 PM
The Marshalls along the way with the brooms to clear away debris ae not paid and they have to foot their own bills to get the best seats in the house.
You sent January 22 at 2:36 PM
Who can think of any race in the world with the world’s top athletes competing which has such a high kill rate?
You sent January 22 at 2:38 PM
I would guess that most of you have never once sat on a high performance road motorcycle like my crutch rocket Ducati ST4S which the person I bought it from said it may have been the fastest road motorcycle ever produced with very little modification.
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You sent January 22 at 2:40 PM
Above are two photos of me taken in the fall of 2014 at the Ducati factory in Bologna which my father bombed and the bombed out buildings remain. Isn’t that cool?
You sent January 22 at 2:46 PM
We also drove a TT, a very fast Audi TT 224 horsepower Turbo Quattro to get there without once getting a speeding ticket because we were mostly traveling on the no speed limit Autobahn reaching speads in excess of 260 kilometers per hour but surrounded by steel, plenty of airbags and there is a difference between traveling on 2 wheels flying head first into stationary objects than a 4 wheel vehicle.
You sent January 22 at 2:47 PM
Pretty much any idiot can drive a 4 wheeled vehicle at break neck speeds, you find them everyday on the interstates here in the United States proving that they are made of testosterone.
You sent January 22 at 2:48 PM
We can also agree that pretty much everyone is idiot by virtue of having missed the GDP economic index.
You sent January 22 at 2:49 PM
Guy Martin can be forgiven for choosing not to accumulate fat on his body in order to improve his thinking riding at a blinding speed and having to make split second decisions while thinking through not only his competitors but the functioning of each mechanical part.
You sent January 22 at 2:50 PM
He is of course a master mechanic which makes up his genius.
You sent January 22 at 2:50 PM
I don’t use that word lightly and I don’t use it when describing any of you, not even close.
You sent January 22 at 2:54 PM
Even for those of us whose English is our first language it is hard at times to understand more than a few words when Guy Martin speaks. He does suffer from autism but he does make perfect sense and that you see by his extraordinary riding skills.
You sent January 22 at 2:55 PM
None of you make close to as much sense as Guy Martin so how come you aren’t yet diagnosed with extreme autism without necessarily being placed in straightjackets for your own protection and those closest to you?
You sent January 22 at 3:01 PM
To best understand the best test of intelligence, you would need to understand the mental gymnastics South African General Jan Christiaan Smuts [24 May 1870 – 11 September 1950] put his Fighter Bomber Pilots through before they were allowed to enter the battlefield. A Fighter Bomber Pilot no doing their job well which is to attack the target area with a vengeance risks the mission as well as the lives of the other Fighter Bomber Pilots. The comraderie amongst the best of the Allied Fighter Bomber Pilots was reinforced by their regular games of rugby and soccer even after they had lost someone who meant a lot to them.
You sent January 22 at 3:02 PM
The breed of human today is not the same as the generation of my parents, at least not those who were active during that most important war that the pundits expected the Allies to lose.
You sent January 22 at 3:03 PM
These pundits are not the same as those bought to give false readings on who is going to win the next election which keeps keeps many away from voting their preferred candidate because they don’t want to feel stupid voting for a loser.
You sent January 22 at 3:04 PM
No one asks you all to play stupid and yet you do.
You sent January 22 at 3:05 PM
Is it because you are being paid, like a spy would be paid, or because you are stupid or because you are stupid you are hoping to be compensated by the SA Oppenheimers and their shills?
You sent January 22 at 3:05 PM
It is a pretty clear choice I am providing.
You sent January 22 at 3:06 PM
Steven Bailey, I see you are not the only one online and reading; how much time do you need to answer that question?
You sent January 22 at 3:12 PM
It is hand-eye cordination which is the greatest test of intelligence once you have passed the mathematics.
A bright person can be hamstrung by having a poor mathematics teacher and hence why it is that you rarely have beautiful mathematics teachers like our Miss Smith in elementary school.
But then you just have to find a way to close your ears without being disruptive to the rest of the class and ignore what the high school math teacher is saying without however failing which we can all agree is really hard to do unless you have been beaten like Gary Gillmore and nor is Gillmore’s upbringing all that unusual.
Most of you must have simply been defeated by either your mother or father telling you that you were a loser because they are losers. How do you get people to a Higher Energy Reaction [HER] when you look at each of your performance? Impossible.
You sent January 22 at 3:12 PM
You can’t teach old humans new tricks.
You sent January 22 at 3:13 PM
The children however are a different story and each of you are contributing. Well done.
You sent January 22 at 3:21 PM
We will get more into the children a little later but first it is important that you understand how awful is the educational system which has talkers such as fascist Mark Gevisser thinking themselves intellectuals because they scored high at Poverty of Thought [POT] institutions such as Yale University who has yet to return, to the best of my knowledge, all the stolen artifacts from both Machu Picchu and the ransaking of Peking following the defeat of the Boxer Rebellion which in turn led to 20,000 Chinese slaves sent to South Africa to work the mines to pay off the debt to JP Morgan Bank-Deutsche Bank-Barclays Bank-IG Farben. Remember this talker hell bent on crushing fellow Jewish South African Solly Krok never distanced himself from his father’s money courtesy of monopolist, anti-Semite, racist, white supremist, American Charles W. Engelhard Jr. who backed both the Democrat Party and Republican Party leadership equally.
You sent January 22 at 3:22 PM
Nor am I suggesting for a moment that great athletes can’t get corrupted once they get frustrated with their schooling which is geared to produce automatons; and for us Jewish people that devastation on the brains of us Jewish kids took place when the Durban Jewish community’s head Jewish Kapo; namely The Pig, ran both our Jewish day school, Carmel College as well as our rabbi Professor Abner Weiss and that finally took a huge toll on Abner’s marriage.
You sent January 22 at 3:22 PM
Who wouldn’t like to take a break from class right now?
You sent January 22 at 3:50 PM
Yes, who would think that with the American Civil War over and slavery abolished in 1870 – @Jeffrey Robert Krinsk Esq. please let know if I have the date wrong – that 34 years later, 1904, America’s finest bank JP Morgan traffic slaves from China to South Africa to pay off the debt JP Morgan incurred when financing the brutal war? Does it really matter if JP Morgan first found Ernest Oppenheimer who took over from Cecil Rhodes who died in the same year 1902, just before the Anglo “American” Boer War ended, that Oppenheimer arrived in South Africa or the other way?
You sent January 22 at 3:53 PM
How do you get your head around, abolishing slavery in your country and then sending slaves from China who were required to pay for having lost the Boxer Rebellion which arose from the Chinese objecting to foreigners raping and pillaging China?
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You sent January 22 at 3:54 PM
Why would a normal person expect the Chinese Communist Party to embrace democratic principles in dealing with their minority groups?
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Once armed with the truth, it would be nuts to embrace any form of violence as much as abnormal people see money to be made by dividing the people.
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@Geniv Wulz, do you think they are spying on us
or just a coincidence and therefore if everyone is not on the same page, it is just a question of time?
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Just getting funds to play; and wanting more. They see a scientific experiment to prove their point, whatever it is. But will they prove their point? Probably never get an answer. You think so? But it won’t make anyone more conscious.
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This consciousness study brings however important things to light such as the importance of listening to competing arguments with only logical discourse.
That may be a first, if it is genuine and since there hasn’t been an attempt since the ancients such as Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, Cato and Pythagoras we shouldn’t be quick to knock it because it is now out there and we can each contribute if fit to do so.
Who would have thought it possible that health awareness to have been in decline since gladiator times, and yet it remains Might Is Right?
Today we finally have a conclusive study that “fat but healthy” is a myth.
Progress is progress, and it is this progress we should celebrate, not platitudes such “Again you are off your meds” which I will get to later as we approach the more cerebral section.
Now we just need a study on how to eat and healthy and not harm each other and the planet, and a good start is to study the origins of the GDP which we have doing.
Most notably, at least to me, was this consciousness study article, covering Einstein’s General Relativity which threw the world’s elitists into a tizzy; and the fact that Einstein was Jewish simply meant making sure his mind-blowing discovery, knocking the phony religious as well as the no less phony academic scientists right out of the water, needed bought Jewish opposition. Who remembers what else took place in 1919 and the years that followed?
So we should get back shortly to why it was important to keep a watchful eye over Einstein, at Princeton no less.
Awesome man was Einstein not to let the slight by all of the physicists and Nobel Prize Committee interfere with his modesty. How can you be accomplished and not modest? You start acting and looking a little eccentric, the people start thinking you are mad and the t-shirt sales boost that image.
It was good that Einstein saw he could do more good alive than dead. Remember Einstein was Jewish.
I think it is important to remind Jewish people as well that Einstein was Jewish and tolerated fools like the phony religious, with all their rituals, badly.
Who can see that the poor masses haven’t faired well with the proliferation of religious people increasingly in seats of power while saying they support separation of church and state? Religion is very powerful because there is a lot of money backing them.
So why weren’t the religious blessed with the sensitivity, the sensibilities to recognize the moral, spiritual deformities of the Gross Domestic Product economic index?
As a collective group they can only say God forsook them.
It is not possible for them to blame themselves other than to say they didn’t perform enough of the rituals with genuineness. Who thinks if this very brave Navalny succeeds he too won’t fall into line like the rest? Every Rhodes Scholar like Chairman Biden’s new head of National Security who I believe is just 42 years of age is given a dossier, once arriving at Oxford, on the playbook of the monopolist SA Oppenheimer family who are simply following in the footsteps of Cecil Rhodes who in his first will of 1877 called for his secret society to rule the world.
Let’s assume Navalny inevitably gets it before he dies and he could already be receiving horrific physical torture in addition to massive psychological abuse, could you see him reacting any different to each of you?
We need to get quickly to a Higher Energy Reaction (HER) and we have to go through Higher Energy Logic Level (HELL) to get her. Marriage made in hell is not all uncommon.
Togetherness breaking apart can be quite explosive; just look at the ingenuous discovery of the atomic bomb, simply atoms corroding which is also a sign of old age and bad tempers.
What explains the lack of modesty in a world that was fortunate enough to get an Einstein?
You simply beat out the God Newton with what is considered a preposterous theory which has not only negative space alive but this live mechanism gravity that is not possible to see keeping objects big and small in balance at all times.
You get fat and you see how difficult it is to keep your balance; better yet you can figure out why that is.
It is a brain 🧠 that Einstein had which no one before or since has come close to competing with because it simply can’t get better than proving out using first only imagination which is all that Einstein had to work with, that God exists and Einstein simply left his words to do the talking “Mind of God” when explaining it.
We are each born in the image of God and we have to hand it to God that as youngsters when we are strong and fit there are really no uglies.
Those born with disfigurement must have the same beautiful mind that allows each of us to see beyond getting caught up in a very bad money game.
We have only dissonance to deal with, caused by not wanting to think the military complex controls the money and the wealth-health distribution while GDP continues to destroy the planet while driving greater divide amongst us humans and the rest of life simply collateral damage which we put a price on preservation, and fines for the transgressors who are easier to catch, and the rich with only loyalty to the money laugh all the way to the bank.
Not a pretty picture.
Dissonance however, is nothing compared to the complexity Einstein had to deal with the moment he imagined the unimaginable before proving out mathematically the “Mind of God”.
This consciousness study, again not as complicated as General Relativity will go on for a long,long time; and forever, at least 10 years, maybe we will settle for 5 years; and then we will look for what validates consciousness; all such a study taking place right here with everyone mute, even the few leaving don’t really leave quietly.
Then they will move on to another subject that can get them funds.
Btw in case no one noticed Neville Shotland left the group without explaining if he agrees with his ex wife Arleen Shotland that the Durban Jewish South Africans are disgustingly two faced towards the Lazarus clan of Durban North who know they are all two faced when not bought with favors or the promise of favors.
If you are bought does it automatically mean you are two-faced and an informer, in other words a spy?
Btw, who believes content with National Geographic having already covered every interesting species up close in wonderful documentaries, and their photos the best, leaving filmmakers to compete amongst the porn and that stopped getting interesting when the hitchhiker got picked up, make a difference to have different name countries and borders?
Who here knows of a marriage that is not in trouble from watching porn?
Does it make a difference to have different name countries and borders when both sides are backed by the richest who see borders only for the poor needed for cannon fodder and to think they have a voice when given the vote without a dossier explaining why people like Marc Rich are afforded grand lifestyles once pushing people off their lands and becoming refugees- from the boiling water into the frying pan?
The European rich monarchs who have world fooled that they have no political power because of all the Mickey Mouse pomp and ceremony, figured this one out when getting rid of the borders and having one currency which is given to the banks in those countries who tow the line which is just to promote the pretense of competition.
Do you think it would be impolite to ask Prince Charles and his two sons William and Harry to share their views on monopolies and whether the anti-monopolies laws are simply a ruse?
Remember our current economic system remains the same, Might is Right as following the Boxer Rebellion, the Spanish-American War and the most important of all the Wall Street backed Anglo “American” Boer followed by both World Wars and today’s war on domestic and foreign terrorists.
I have promised that this is inevitably going to be cerebral.
We are getting there and it only takes time which we all have.
Just because we don’t think there is anything to coincidences other than they take up time and prove nothing other than a distraction we can’t either control or predict which itself is totally amazing, but in the event coincidences do exist for a reason deeper, therefore if everyone is not on the same page, it is just a question of time.
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Benas sent Yesterday at 1:30 AM
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Again I request you to remove me
You sent Yesterday at 8:38 AM
Hell together
You sent Yesterday at 8:58 AM
@Benas Levy, you must have accepted my fb friend request, and there you demonstrated hand-eye coordination. Your bio says that you studied at Unisa in South Africa as well as Harvard University.
What did you study at Harvard and when was that?
Did you serve in the SA Oppenheimers’ Apartheid Regime’s military which didn’t begin torturing their opponents, the most fierce being black South African schoolchildren, when shooting them in the back during the 1976 Soweto uprisings because you may be old enough to have read about the Sharpville massacre of March 21, “1961” [sic], 9 months and 27 days before the torture assassination of the first and last democratically elected leader in modern day times, Patrice Lumumba, prime minister of mineral rich Belgian Congo from where the anti-Semitic, Nazi SA Oppenheimer sent their puppet Hitler his critically needed industrial diamonds without which he was dead in the water.
How do you explain other than being bought or stupid to have lost their sensibilities, sensitivities could such significant numbers of Jewish South African 18 year olds sign up to serve in such a devilish militia when they had the easy option of immigrating to Israel?
Can you explain what bothers you most that you have difficulty finding the “remove” button other than you feel the need to talk without thinking? Next I will share with our audience our dialogue on fb messaging where you showed initially that you had pretty good cognitive skills.
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Benas sent Yesterday at 9:01 AM
I am not interested in your site I knew , what I guess was your father and I respected him. Please if you have any decency remove me.
You sent Yesterday at 9:07 AM
Could you think of something more appropriate than your use of decency?
I don’t think my father Bernie would have thought much of you if you behaved this way,
Are you sure you are not confusing my very handsome Allied Fighter Bomber Pilot father Bernie with his ugly, traitor first cousin David Gevisser, the “male heir” of anti -Semite monopolist American Charles Engelhard Jr?
You say you remember last seeing our mutual fb friend @Solly Krok at his sister in law’s funeral, do you remember what you were wearing and what you told Solly?
Benas sent Yesterday at 9:08 AM
Your rebel charms are not very good!
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@Benas Levy, let’s look at your first writings to me on November 17 of last year:
Interesting subject I’m about to launch a patented product in solar field. I haven’t seen Solly since his sister in law’s burial. Are you to related to the writer?
You sent Yesterday at 9:11 AM
When you write “interesting subject” were you just giving me lip service to try getting money out of me? I ask that because based on your reaction today you don’t seem genuinely interested in my knowledge of military economics?
Benas sent Yesterday at 9:12 AM
Not in the least interest in your money
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@Benas Levy are you looking for investors? Did @Solly Krok turn you down?
You sent Yesterday at 9:21 AM
I believe, but I could be mistaken, just like I was in the year slavery was abolished in the United States, not in 1870 but in 1865 and replaced as it was in the rest of the world with slave wages attached to contrived inflation, that @Solly Krok’s sister in law died on June 8, 2013 and two other members of Solly’s immediate family also passed away on June 8 as did my paternal grandmother Katie Sher Gevisser (c. 1895-June 8, 1945), the same day Uranium King Nicholas Oppenheimer was born.
You make note on your Facebook wall that Facebook got it wrong, that you were born in June rather than July or Vice verse?
You sent Yesterday at 9:21 AM
In all this time how come you haven’t found the button to remove yourself?
You sent Yesterday at 9:24 AM
@Benas Levy let’s go back to the start of our fb messaging conversation that began the day before you first answered, November 16. I initiated the discussion: Hello to you I write on the military economy What do you do? How well do you know our mutual friend Solly Krok?
You sent Yesterday at 9:24 AM
After your initial reply I responded: Have you approached Musk on your product? What can you talk openly about it?
You sent Yesterday at 9:29 AM
The following day, November 18, you replied:
Musk no
On November 19, I wrote you the following, and notice how polite and decent I was:
I take it you nothing you are comfortable in talking publicly about your invention? I’m going to be inviting you shortly to my fb group chat, To be honest. Once I have had added a dozen or so new members I will be writing an open letter to Elon Musk exposing the truth behind the cryptocurrencies.
TBH is self explanatory. I know this because the current and past membership all perfectly understand what is going on. Everyone has been quiet since I wrote at 8:34 PM Calif time last evening, “Sleep on it”.
The membership include not only multibillionaires and their children, grandchildren, (but) cousins as well as jealous friends who only give them more than the time of day because they hope for a big score or at least be invited to the parties where they might make a money connection or find someone rich to marry, and at least come away with a free meal.
Several I know personally because I have advised their multibillionaire parents and grandparents over the years when I was their most trusted financial-business advisor.
Just as important as these multibillionaires and their Trust Fund kids thinking they are above it all, are very poor workers who held menial jobs at places like Macdonalds but because of this mass contrived hysteria leading to the insane confinement rules they are now destitute, even thinking if they can afford the electricity to be on the Internet.
All the game playing is about to backfire as I expose the emergence of the nonsense cryptocurrencies, in particular Bitcoin which is blowing away all the contrived, fake competitors, is to hide the theft of the world’s mineral resources by my former employer De Beers-SA Oppenheimer-Deutsche Bank-IG Farben who should have been the first prosecuted at Nuremberg.
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@Benas Levy, the following day, November 20, you gave me a “thumbs” and that was it. Again you never said you were disinterested or failed the Glasgow Coma Scale and if so by how much?
Do you feel however that your cognitive skills have deteriorated since learning the truth about the SA Oppenheimers? Why wouldn’t your friend Solly Krok be all over your solar patent? Shall we continue?
You sent Yesterday at 9:37 AM
After the “thumbs up” you sent me this graphic:
You sent Yesterday at 9:39 AM
At 11:09 AM on November 20, I responded to the graphic with a simple question mark ?
You sent Yesterday at 9:39 AM
Now, my thinking is that maybe you were being very vulgar and telling me to fuck off?
You sent Yesterday at 9:42 AM
Next I heard from you on fb messaging at 9:14 AM California time this morning which was less than 30 minutes ago, and all you wrote “remove”.
You sent Yesterday at 9:42 AM
In other words you demonstrate that you can move around Facebook.
You sent Yesterday at 9:45 AM
BTW, I don’t need to call @Solly Krok on the phone to know that he is online and reading not only our dialogue but what I first sent him this morning when taking a break from communicating with South African litigator @Geniv Wulz who has also gone deafeningly silent.
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Amongst the items I shared with @Solly Krok were my fb messaging conversations with @Torah Gemach who also is now very quiet.
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@Torah Gemach, you have a wide vocabulary of both English and Yiddish words which is not to suggest for a moment that I think you have an inordinate amount of intellect because I think it is limited to eating trash and talking trash.
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@Torah Gemach why don’t you make yourself useful and explain to @Benas Levy how he can remove himself, and then I would like for you to do the same so that I can add more members.
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@Torah Gemach should you decide to write more than a handful of words to me, knowing that both of us have said everything we need to say to one another, and I will be sharing with everyone what I wrote Solly Krok earlier, then I would suggest to everyone to simply remove your writings that they consider an eyesore.
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Title: How can the rich get richer The whole election process is childish. He’s this; he’s that. It’s not about how can we deal with the poor. That’s way down the line. It’s about how can we get richer.
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Note: When anyone leaves the group, unless it is a nervous twitch, and why I take the precaution of adding you back at times, please block me from adding you back at the same time if you are a facebook friend, please unfriend me.
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Added South African Hollywood music producer, Steven Kofsky. Our facebook dialogue also needs airing.
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Jonathan Gevisser, as I was saying on Wow, very interesting, are you waiting for me to post up your conversation back in March 2009, the month before your “lucky uncle” David Gevisser’s death, with black South African Tefo Mohapi, whose mother Joyce Mohapi spent a night in a South African jail during the 1976 Soweto uprising, before she joined the Rhodes-De Beers Scholar Club, like Chairman Biden’s 44 year old Rhodes Scholar, National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan?
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Continuing to cut and paste from Wow, very interesting.

@Neville Shotland, I wanted to make sure you got to see my earlier message to my second cousin, Jonathan Gevisser whose first cousin, the Yale University writer @Mark Gevisser is the eldest son of Jewish “turncoat” David Gevisser, the “male heir” of racist, monopolist, anti-Semite, German-American Charles W Engelhard Jr (1917-1971) who Mossad assassinated on March 2, 1971, a month after Engelhard turned 54.

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Not to mention, Tefo Mohapi who South African billionaire @Solly Krok offered to sponsor because Solly saw good potential in this young South African, also had interesting conversations with heavily two-faced, carrying the weight of the world on his fat face, @Mark Gevisser back in April 2005, beginning on April 11, 2005, 4 days after Nick Oppenheimer’s South African Sunday Times’ lawyers rejected my De Beers INFORMERS WANTED ad seeking out truth tellers; and nor was the letter kind and generous.

https://www.2facetruth.com/de-beers-informers-wanted-advertisement/

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To mention little of the $150 million paid to pedophile, blackmailer Jeffrey Epstein by Wall Streeter Leon Black whose corrupt 54 year old Wall Street father Eli Black (1921-1975) jumped out of the 44th floor of the Pan Am Building in New York City is already swept under the rug.

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@Galit Tassi, I wanted to make sure that even if it was a nervous twitch which had you pressing remove, you got to read all of the above.

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. .. the same with you @Brandon Kerzner.

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There is activity on To be honest which has yet to be made available to all of this membership, and of course there is cross-over.

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Roy Berelowitz, are you sure you don’t want to hear more on the detailed discussion covering platitudes such as “Again, he is off his meds”, it could result in more of your book sales?

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Lot to cover on this winter wonderland day which must now be enjoyed.
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Cutting and pasting, Wow, very interesting

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When we all get back, to focus on why it is predominately Jewish fat faced Wall Streeters who get most of the disgusting headline news.

Who profits most from the spread of anti-Semitism?

What are they hiding? It must be really valuable to go to such measures, resulting in the spending of the earth that no one seems to really care about?

Why do you think it is that everyone has such a really hard time with Professor Edward Jay Epstein’s The Diamond Invention book which hasnt changed much since it was written in 1978 because nothing has changed, other than we know perfectly well who is without intellect.

You need intellect to have morals.

Who remembers how they felt when they first came across GDP [Gross Domestic Product] economic index in The D I book?

Do you feel that Professor Epstein who is not the same as blackmailer, pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, needed to explain more clearly the important connection between the GDP and the Diamond Invention Game [DIG]?

Who would like to see a debate between me and Leon Black?

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Correction: Tefo Mohap only had a conversation with writer Mark Gevisser, not his first cousin Jonathan Gevisser.

Jonathan Gevisser’s conversation in March 2009 was with my one website designer, 30 year old Adam L. Tucker.

Note Jonathan Gevisser’s clarity: “Sold under the table to Natie Kirsch who did the first asset strip in SA, dismantling in a few months what had taken generations to build.”

My God. Jonathan Gevisser actually writes where no one else had dared to go. Natie Kirsch was in fact a poor businessman and poor financially when compared to my father Bernie and his father, Israel Issy Gevisser [c.1890-1970] who didn’t last long once the treachery of his nephew, David Gevisser was unearthed.

Jonathan Gevisser wouldnt know his arse from his elbow when it comes to financial engineering but nor is he totally stupid.

You couldn’t get a bigger clown than Natie Krisch currently 614th on Forbes List of Billionaires, other than perhaps Warren Buffett and George Soros and lets face it, facebook board member Peter Thiel with the closest ties to SA Oppenheimers’ Nazi bank Deutsche Bank which gets high marks from all the mainstream media and non-mainstream media all being puppeted by the same puppets; namely, SA Oppenheimers-IG Farben-BASF-Monsanto-Deutsche Bank.

Note two-faced Jonathan Gevisser’s admonition to Adam L. Tucker at the very end, “please desist… i’d rather call it quits”.

Below are the email communication between Jonathan Gevisser and Adam L. Tucker:

 

From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 8, 2009 at 11:15pm

Hi Jonathan, Are you related to the South African Gevissers? cheers, Adam

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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 9, 2009 at 1:10am

Indeed, Adam, i am a SA Gevisser, of which there a few branches! Which of us do you know and how?
cheers j

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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 9, 2009 at 1:27pm

Hi Jonathan, I actually just began a dialogue with Bernie Gevisser

[https://www.2facetruth.com/ask-my-youngst-son-gary/]

whose father Issy Gevisser was one of the founders of Moshal Gevisser which I read owned a company called ACME Timber that apparently owned “huge forests” in Natal, South Africa. When I heard that Issy also owned priceless land in Hafia Harbor, Israel I wondered what Bernie was doing living in South Africa and not in Israel; which is actually where my parents met up in 1972 while my dad fought in the Yom Kippur war.

How are you related to Bernie who I understand fought in the second world war?

cheers,
Adam

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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 9, 2009 at 10:58pm

Yes, Moshal Gevisser was the family firm. My grandfather, Morris Gevisser and his brother-in-law, Sol Moshal, along with Issy, Morris’ brother, were the founders. Bernie and my dad, Leslie, were first cousins and worked there almost all their working lives until it was sold under the table to Natie Kirsch who did the first asset strip in SA, dismantling in a few months what had taken generations to build.

Both Bernie and my dad fought in WW2. Bernie was a pilot who flew Spitfires. Wonderful man. I went to school with his kids. Bernie lives in Melbourne now, near his daughter Kathy.

Where/who/how are you… and what’s your interest in all this??

Ciao
Jonny

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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 11, 2009 at 8:58am

Jonny, I am actually interested in getting to the bottom of how the US allowed the Apartheid regime to stay in power for so long. Even though there were many Jewish people who lead opposition to the Apartheid, there were a great many Jewish people especially here in the US who were open supporters of the Apartheid regime beginning with Charles Engelhard Jr. David Gevisser’s Bio

http://www.whoswhosa.co.za/Pages/profilefull.aspx?IndID=2993

While doing some research into Engelhard, the name David Gevisser came up beginning with him being named CEO of Engelhard’s South African operations in 1970 but there is no mention in David Gevisser’s bio of what he did before that led to him becoming CEO.

What is your relationship to David Gevisser?

Would you know if David Gevisser was in fact connected to Moshal Gevisser?

Cheers,
Adam

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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 11, 2009 at 10:21am

He is my uncle and worked at Moshal Gevisser at the start of his career. Yopu should contact him directly if you want more info. I don’t feel comfortable talking about him ‘behind his back’, asit were. Suffice to say, however, that he was an advisor to Kader Asmal when he was Minister of Water Affairs and Forestry in the first democratic government after 94.

Cheers

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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 11, 2009 at 2:09pm

Interestingly enough I came across this email communication online between a Mark Gevisser that mentions Moshal Gevisser Group; is it correct to assume that Mark is David’s son?

—– Original Message —–
From: Tefo Mohapi
To: Mark Gevisser
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:16 PM
Subject: Gevisser’s

Mark, Knowing very well that what I’m about to ask you is most probably none of my business, I was just curious as to how much Thabo Mbeki knows about your family and it’s history. More especially The Moshal Gevisser Group of Companies. As I said, I’m just curious being a South African and knowing you to be quite articulate from reading what you have written.

Kgotso! (Peace)
Tefo Mohapi

—– Original Message —–
From: Mark Gevisser
To: Tefo Mohapi
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Gevisser’s

Hi Tefo Not quite sure how to take your question, or why you are asking it. I doubt Mbeki knows –or should know– anything about Moshal Gevisser except that his mother bought her goods wholesale from them for her trading store.

Mark
Mark Gevisser

 

[Adam L. Tucker continues with Jonny Gevisser]

Assuming this is David’s son, Mark seems to be distancing himself and his father from Moshal Gevisser. You say it was an “under the table” deal which is curious because it seems to have taken place a year or so before Mark’s father started to become very rich and then it turns out, based on additional reading that David Gevisser became the executor of Charles Engelhard’s estate when he died on March 2nd, 1971.

Apart from you, do you know why the Gevisser family would not want to talk about this major “stripping of assets”?

Could it be that Engelhard had something to do with that “under the table” deal?

Do you know how can I reach David Gevisser?

Kgotso,
Adam

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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 11, 2009 at 9:30pm

lots stories i grew up with re MG’s demise, replete with conspiracy theories, most especially around natie kirsch and sol moshal. i don’t recall an engelhard link though. my dad and Bernie were broken by the collapse of the firm and found themselves on the street, caps in hand looking for jobs. they never could get to the bottom of it. old history, old wounds, that resulted in much suffering in our small branch of the family, shadowing our childhoods hugely.

lots to love!
onwards ho and kgotso indeed

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From: Adam L Tucker
To: Jonathan Gevisser
March 12, 2009 at 9:20pm

I would like to send you some photos that I think you would appreciate. Do you have a yahoo or gmail account that I can send them to?

Cheers!

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From: Jonathan Gevisser
To: Adam L Tucker
March 12, 2009 at 10:13pm

adam, please desist. seems you know gary well and so your knowledge of the family, especially bernie and david is probably similar to mine even greater, as gary has made a study of the chequered history, specifically around the sell-out of MG that badly efected his and our branch more than most…yet you made out you knew nada..

i’d rather call this quits, thanks. good luck.

You sent Today at 4:10 PM

Added Neville Shotland. Added my South African highschool history teacher, Wendy Ann Bouman.

You removed David Cline from the group.
You added Galit Tassi to the group.
You sent Today at 4:36 PM
Removed deceased Jewish Durbanite David Cline. Added back MIMI [Mossad-Israeli Military Intelligence] officer @Galit Tassi
You sent Today at 4:42 PM
Galit, you know to first follow the mineral resource trail – and now with the heavy snowfall the paw marks of one mountain lion very close by is clearly visible, and you may also know that walking in the snow is not that easy unless you are a mountain lion and then it is first nature – and from there all man’s foolishness falls into place.

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