What are we doing here? – The traitors – shooting school children – Screenshot
From: “gary@2facetruth.com” <gary@2facetruth.com>
Date: September 17, 2018 at 12:04:12 PM PDT
To: Devin Standard – Gunrunner <NHgoldendragon@gmail.com>
Cc: rest; Elon Musk <NAsales@tesla.com>, “ onny Gevisser – only son of Leslie Gevisser; Director The Extra-Mural Education Project Cape Town South Africa” <jg@emep.org.za>, “Gillian Slovo -daughter of assassinated Ruth First, whose husband and father of Gillian was Joe Slovo, a South African politician, an opponent of the apartheid system. A Marxist-Leninist, he was a long-time leader and theorist in the South African Communist Party (SACP), a leading member of the African National Congress (ANC), and a commander of the ANC’s military wing Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK).” <gillianslovo@gmail.com>, “Michael Strauss – International Monetary Fund – former student of Grundfest. Met Strauss on June 20, 2006 at bottom of zipline at Simatai Great Wall, China. Most shocked was Strauss to hear that DeBeers had established retail shops on US soil.” <mstrauss0@gmail.com>, Michael Tordu-The Coward Awerbuch <michael@asasin.biz>, “Michael Sewitz – Brother-in-law of Gary Gevisser’s close cousin Gary Levinsohn, co-producer with Spielberg of Saving Private Ryan” <drapes7219@aol.com>, “South African-British solicitor Ray Oshry – classmate of Gary Gevisser and GG’s murdered cousin Sandy Moshal Jacobson [1957-1997]. R. Oshry remains a FB \”friend\” of GG but blocks GG from messaging on Facebook.” <ray.oshry@haroldbenjamin.com>, HILLEL PIEKARSKI <rabbinhp@gmail.com>, “Jeremy Sharon – Jerusalem Post reporter, WATCHDOG CONSIDERS ACTION AFTER CHIEF RABBI COMPARES BLACK PEOPLE TO MONKEYS” <jeremysharon@gmail.com>, Rabbi Stuart Federow – Houston Texas Radio Show Host <whatjewsbelieve@hotmail.com>, Chief Rabbi of South Africa Goldstein <office@chiefrabbi.co.za>, “Shaun Tomson – 1977 World Surfing Champion – went to same high school and studied economics at university with GG. Both our father’s played on the same junior high school rubgy team; Shaun’s father was an Allied tail-gunner during WW II and GG’s father was a Fighter-Bomber-Pilot completing 71 missions.” <shauntomson@yahoo.com>, Shaun Marsh – No longer FB friend of Gary Gevisser <cvcstudios@googlemail.com>, “Barrie Spero – served time in the South African Apartheid Regime’s notorious the notorious Greefswald camp overseen by infamous Jewish medical doctor, Dr. Aubrey Levin and where Spero once witnessed up close the presence of high ranking American military officers.” <barriespero@googlemail.com>, “Gordon Torr – author, Kill Yourself & Count to 10 – Greefswald inmate” <gordontorr@blueyonder.co.uk>, “Neil Gevisser – author, Picking up the pieces of yourself [1972] – imprisoned for most of his service in the 3rd Reich’s Southern Division.” <neil@rhymedisease.com>, “Melvin Gevisser – Officer in the DAAC’s Third Reich’s Southern Division’s army.” <mgevisser@sbcglobal.net>, Ayelet Shaked – Minister of Justice Israel <sar@justice.gov.il>, Judge Yocheved Greenvald-Rand <pniyot@court.gov.il>, guy bechor <guy.bechor@gmail.com>, Uri Bar-Joseph <ubarjoseph@gmail.com>, Uri Rosenberg <urir77@gmail.com>, Menashe Cohen <mcohenenterprises@gmail.com>, “Tomer – Israeli farmer and former Israel Air Force [IAF] pilot ותומר טנא” <tene@arava.co.il>, Zvi Remak <sdebokerwinery@gmail.com>, Office for the Israeli Department of Defense Attache Israeli Embassy Washington DC <Att-sec@israelemb.org>, “Vegetarian Tzipora Malka \”Tzipi\” Livni” <zlivni@knesset.gov.il>, Neta Mark <netanoamark@gmail.com>, “Ayalah Kaplan – South African-Israeli neighbor of my mother Zena still held captive in her Netanya apartment.” <ayalahk@012.net.il>, “bnetanyahu@knesset.gov.il” <bnetanyahu@knesset.gov.il>, Netherlands embassy in Kabul <kab@minbuza.nl>, “Peter van Leeuwen – Legal scholar and private university tutor.” <repetitor@ziggo.nl>, Geoffrey van Leeuwen – Dutch Ambassador to Afghanistan <gvanleeuwen@yahoo.com>, “Geoff Norris – South African-British actor who produces, directs and acts in his self described \”absolutely crap\” Youtube promotion of himself as an actor, teacher and singer.” <jefron@hotmail.com>, “Geoffrey.ROTHWELL@oecd.org” <Geoffrey.ROTHWELL@oecd.org>, Angel Gurria – Secretary General OECD <Angel.Gurria@oecd.org>, “Trevor Manuel – former South African Minister of Finance. In 1995, Manuel agreed to a deal favoring the anti-competition former Apartheid Regime the morning before Gary Gevisser met with his \”lucky uncle\” David Gevisser, the “male heir” of open supporter of the Apartheid Regime, monopolist German-American Charles W. Engelhard Jr. [1917-1971]. ” <patti.smith@treasury.gov.za>, Trevor Noah – Daily Show <closedcaption@viacom.com>, “Cynthia Cindy Petit – F U [Fat & Ugly] first cousin of Zena Ash Gevisser and younger sister of Fran Baker Poeggle” <Whadidusay@aol.com>, Fran Baker Poeggle – First cousin of Zena Ash Gevisser and elder sister of Cynthia Petit <Bsissy30@aol.com>, “Dr. Rod Smith Phd – formerly of RAND \”Think Tank\” – Principal Waterstrategist – Facebook friend of GG and also present at the Wetherly Capital Group board meeting on Feb. 8, 2002 held in the corporate headquarters of Arden Realty, the largest REIT trading on the New York Stock Exchange before being bought out by General Electric.” <rsmith@stratwater.com>, Vernon Smith – 2002 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences <vsmith@chapman.edu>, “Dave Osh – No longer FB friend – former Israeli Fighter Pilot now working with Vistage and supporter of the BDS movement.” <osh.dave@gmail.com>, Ernest Rady <erady@americanassets.com>, “Keisha Whitaker – wife of Forest Whitaker; FB \”friend\” of Gary Gevisser” <kbabies1@aol.com>, Barry Solomon – No longer FB friend of Gary Gevisser <barrysolomon11@gmail.com>, Barry Pepper – Actor – Saving Private Ryan <pepperasst@barrypepper.com>, “Gary Firer – another quiet classmate of Gary Gevisser and GG’s cousin, murdered armed wing of the ANC member, Sandy Moshal Jacobson [1957-1997].” <garyfirer@gmail.com>, Alec Boswijk – owner of Alchemist Garden and FB friend of Gary Gevisser <energieregie@gmail.com>, Christina Moritsch-Krall – FB friend of GG <amour@iafrica.com>, “Megan Ellison – Film producer [Detroit] and only daughter of $60 billionaire Larry Ellison” <contact@annapurnainteractive.com>, “Emma Elliot Gevisser – new wife of Neil Gevisser. Emma is more than half the age younger than her husband. Emma manages the Airbnb listing of Neil’s home in Wiveliscombe that borders the cemetry.” <Emma@EmmaElliott.com>, “Gary Barber – former CEO of MGM – on Ulpan-Gadna training with Gary Gevisser 1972. Barber owner of racehorse , WONDER GADOT.” <gbspyglass@gmail.com>, Alan Cline – No longer FB friend of Gary Gevisser <alan@crimsoncloverla.com>, “Jann Turner – daughter of slain white South African Richard Turner [September 21, 1941 – January 8, 1978] co-founder with Steve Biko [Decem,ber 18, 1946 – September 11-12, 1977] of Durban Movement.” <jann@jannturner.com>, and for treason <info@mat.org.za>, “Jill Hogan – younger sister of ANC official Barbara Hogan who is the only white South African convicted by the South African Apartheid Regime for treason, and tortured during her captivity.” <info@mat.org.za>, “Mark Gevisser – author of autobiography of Thabo Mbeki former President of South Africa. Mark Gevisser is the son of David Gevisser male heir of American-German Charles W. Engelhard Jr. assassinated by the Mossad on March 2 1971 and buried at St. Mary’s Abbey Church Morristown, New Jersey.” <mark@markgevisser.com>, “Samuel Mark Tollman – born and raised Jewish in Durban, South Africa. Served in the Apartheid Regime’s military. Converted to Islam. No longer FB friend of GG.” <tollsamark2000@yahoo.com>, “Cliff and Ronlynne Benn – Durban, South Africa. South Africa – Clifford Benn who fought in the DAAC’s [De Beers-Anglo American Corporation’s bloody Angolan War where the DAAC backed both sides, was later caught in a DAAC sting Illicit Diamond Buying [IDB] operation when working at South African Clothing Industries whose co-founder was Alan Zulman, my mother’s second husband.” <cbenn@mweb.co.za>, “David Levy – Captain in The Third Reich’s Southern Division’s army; President of Jewish Orthodox synagogue La Jolla, Calif. and another quiet classmate of Gary Gevisser and murdered Sandy Jacobson [1957-1997]” <disch1000@gmail.com>, “Colin Schneiderman – another quiet classmate of Gary Gevisser and his cousin, tortured to death ANC armed wing member, Sandra Moshal Jacobson [1957-1997]” <colbren@live.com>, Paco Furió Marco – Spanish-German Business News TV Anchor <pacofurio@hotmail.com>, Dave Fifield – Gerhard <monkeyboy264@earthlink.net>, kathleen paris <kathleendwalter@gmail.com>, “Jeffrey R. Krinsk Esq. – Senior General Partner of Rosemont Realty, a subsidiary of Rosemont Capital.” <jrk@classactionlaw.com>, “Laurie Black – Staunch Democrat and daughter in law of Larry Lawrence, former US Ambassador to Switzerland during the Clinton administration.” <LJBlack612@aol.com>, “Showley, Roger” <roger.showley@sduniontribune.com>, Annabel Linder – South African Radio Show Host and FB friend of Gary Gevisser <hosts@1485.org.za>, Wendy Dicks – Highbury alumni <alumni@hps.co.za>, “Wendy Ann Bouman – High school history teacher of Gary Gevisser and FB friend.” <wabouman@gmail.com>, “Riaan Reyneke – FB friend of Gary Gevisser. Rian’s great grandfather, Ds Dr Johan Reyneke presided over burial of Jan Christiaan Smuts [1870-1950] and so moved by his words was the Queen of England in attendance that she sponsored a trip for preacher J. Reyneke to visit the whole of Europe, Russia and UK, and send all the bills to Buckingham Palace!” <riaanreyneke@gmail.com>, “Dominik Koscielny – FB friend of GG.” <cyberyusz@gmail.com>, “Pam Kragen author, Flower Hill owners aim for the human touch” <pam.kragen@sduniontribune.com>, “The coupon clipper is the Jeffrey Jack The Ripper Essakow – co-owner of the Marc Rich and Co. Flower Hill Mall, Solana Beach, California. Essakow was an officer in The Third Reich’s Southern Division’s army.” <jessakow@proteaproperties.com>, “Emmanuel Ofosu Yeboah – Star of Emmanuel’s Gift produced by The Coupon Clipper is The Jeffrey Jack The Ripper Essakow. Emmanuel is a FB friend of Gary S. Gevisser but Emmanuel has blocked GG from sending him any more FB messages.” <emefpchal@yahoo.com>, “Adele Strous {Im not interested in history of Israel} Clingman – wife of CIA oil trader Alan Clingman and business partner of Roy Essakow-Marc Rich and company.” <adelec@icentennial.com>, Roy Essakow – Marc Rich Lieutenant <ressakow@email.msn.com>, “Sam Fischer Esq. – Attorney for Matt Damon about to star in the King of Oil-Secret Lives of Marc Rich story – c/o Christopher Carter” <christopherc@ziffrenlaw.com>, “Daniel Ammann – author, The King of Oil: The Secret Lives of Marc Rich” <daniel.ammann@bluewin.ch>, “Michael Isikoff – Chief Investigative Correspondent at Yahoo! News – Chief Investigative Correspondent at Yahoo! News, – FRONTLINE-PBS SPECIAL United States of Secrets. Isikoff mentioned in Daniel Ammann’s King of Oil: The Secret Lives of Marc Rich” <misikoff@oath.com>, Hannity <hannity@foxnews.com>, Haneen Zoabi – Muslim Arab member of Israeli Knesset <hzoaby@knesset.gov.il>, “Jonathan Cooke – British author and Israel tour guide.” <mail@jkcook.net>, Liwan Nazareth <liwan.nazareth@gmail.com>, British Embassy – Israel <enquiries.consular@fco.gov.uk>, “courtofprotectionenquiries@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk” <courtofprotectionenquiries@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk>, “Steven Bailey – Former FB friend who decided to unfriend, and now is back.” <Hawaiianplumeria1@yahoo.com>, Bear Inn – Wiveliscombe <info@thebearwiveliscombe.co.uk>, Brendon Hill Tree Services – Wiveliscombe <info@brendonhill.co.uk>, “Bryan Howe – Parish Clerk, Wiveliscombe” <townclerk@wiveliscombe.com>, Carousel Pig – Wiveliscombe <carouselpig@aol.com>, “Court House Interiors – Wiveliscombe, Somerset – England” <info@courthouseinteriors.co.uk>, Kerry Andersen Molfesis <kerrymolfesis@hotmail.co.uk>, “Katherine Anderson – Council of Europe, Defender of Human Rights. Katherine recently purchased her deceased parents, Robert and Peggy Anderson’s home in Wivesliscombe.” <k.anderson@coe.int>, The White Hart – Wiveliscombe <reservations@whitehartwiveliscombe.co.uk>, GWerbel <GWerbel@aol.com>, Jonny Norris <jonor7@bigpond.com>, “Deborah Sturman Esq. – replaced Kathy Gevisser Danziger as executor of Alan Zulman’s estate on Zulman’s death bed.” <sturman@sturman.ch>, “Kathy Gevisser Danziger c/o Albi – The replaced executor of Alan Zulman’s estate. A. Zulman died on August 6, 2016” <albi@albi.com.au>, “Dominic Powell – author, South Africa’s Coast2Coast Capital acquires Australian homewares wholesaler Albi for more than $50 million” <dpowell@smartcompany.com.au>, Coast 2 Coast Capital – Acquirer of Albi-Danziger-Gevisser for $50+ million in June 2016 <info@c2c.co.za>, “Ron Sandler – Senior Adviser Chatham House – c/o Nina Black, Press Officer Chatham House” <nblack@chathamhouse.org>, “Natie Kirsh – Front person for De Beers who in 1969 purchased the public corporation Moshal Gevisser Group of Companies that was formed in 1910 for significantly less than liquidation value.” <cs_dean@cs.technion.ac.il>, “Sidney Abelski – sellout lawyer – only child of two Auschwitz survivors.” <sidneyabelski@yahoo.com>, “Olg Zabludoffa – former Editor-in-chief at National Association of Educational Broadcasters – Continues to chat on FB messaging but No longer Facebook friend of Gary Gevisser. Previously Olg was open challenger of Jerusalem Post’s Steve Linde. Olg’s husband Sid is a 33 year veteran CIA economist [1962-1995] who worked directly for President from 1969 until 1972; and Sid Zabludoff was in the White House when President Nixon gave his most distracting and illogical speech on August 15 1971 announcing the official end of the Gold Standard and placing the principal profiteers of ourJewish Holocaust in charge of the money supply.” <ozabludoff@gmail.com>, Malcolm Ness <malcolmnessarchitect@gmail.com>, “Alan Mark Zeligson – Greefswald Ward 22 inmate.” <bigvan82@gmail.com>, “Eric Lichtblau – New York Time journalist – FRONTLINE-PBS SPECIAL United States of Secrets.” <ericlichtblau@gmail.com>, “Erik de Jong – Directeur, Museum aan het Vrijthof” <erik.dejong@museumaanhetvrijthof.nl>, Edward Snowden <courage.contact@couragefound.org>, Julian Assange – Wikileaks <gavin@tcij.org>, Claudia Harel <claudia@edu.haifa.ac.il>, “German lawyer Claudia {I didn’t know the coin was gold} Seibel Esquire – (So why did she keep it?)” <c.seibel@iur-realis.de>, אפי טריפלר <effi@arava.co.il>, giora mit <giora.mit@gmail.com>, K Leavitt <kjleavitt@yahoo.com>, Lea <leashrem@gmail.com>, leahklein@gmail.com, Marcia Kramer – CBS TV New York City WCBS-TV <mgkramer@cbs2ny.com>, John Fish out of Water Reed <john.reed@ft.com>, “Kevin Hall – Pulitzer Prize Winner, Panama Papers” <khall@mcclatchydc.com>, pascal.nahon66@gmail.com, “Kenneth Standard Esq. – former 25 year in-house General Counsel of Bristol Meyers; most recently past President of the New York Bar Association – Harvard Law School.” <kstandard@ebglaw.com>, “Andile Madikizela – First cousin of Winnie Mandela and close confidant of Nelson Mandela who acknowledged in private meetings with Andile of his knowledge that the CIA turned him in to the South African Apartheid Regime during the Kennedy Administration.” <mad11a@yahoo.com>, Sam Hackner – Chief Executive Officer – Investec South Africa <iamrecruit@investecmail.com>, Jonathan Beare – Multi-billionaire founder Investec <jbeare@iafrica.com>, Colin Cowie – Celebrity Caterer – former longtime lover of South African Jonathan Beare <jgreenky@colincowie.com>, “PhD – Cornell University The China Study & Forks Over Knives T. Colin Campbell” <bjp1@cornell.edu>, “Caldwell B. Esselstyn, Jr., MD Cardiologist surgean – Forks Over Knives” <EssyProgram@ccf.org>, Cardiologist Warren Grundfest MD <warrenbe@seas.ucla.edu>, “Dr. Barry Molk MD – Cardiologist + First cousin of Gary Gevisser” <blmolk1@mac.com>, “Dr. Paul Bozo the Clown Teirstein MD” <pteirstein@scrippsclinic.com>, Kate Jaro <katejaros@gmail.com>, “Eckhart Tolle – A New Earth; Awakening to Your Life’s Purpose” <support+id116229@eckharttolletv.zendesk.com>, Namaste Publishing Inc – Publisher of A NEW EARTH – Awakening to Your Life’s Purpose – author Eckhart Tolle <namasteproductions@shaw.ca>, “Desiree Pure Evil Levin – No longer FB friend of GG. That ended on Aug. 20, 2018 following GG’s comments on group chat, A test of humanity.” <desilevin8@gmail.com>, “Beth It’s not all about me you know!! [sic] Isaacs – Still FB friend of GG.” <dbisaacs@bezeqint.net>, “Jesse Angelo – CEO and Publisher of The New York Post. On July 8, 1999 Angelo penned FAX: FUGITIVE FRANKEL A FAILED FENCE that detailed a fax sent by Frankel to Alan Lipworth the same day Frankel’s Greenwich, Conn. mansion went up in flames. The fax said that Frankel needed the stones by May 7.” <jangelo@nypost.com>, “Alan Lipworth – former junior partner of Codiam Inc., whose principal is Stephen Cohen. Cohen’s one uncle was Sol Moshal, managing director of The Moshal Gevisser Group of Companies [1910-1970]. My grandfather, Israel Issy Gevisser [c.1890-1970] owned the control block of shares with my father Bernie Gevisser [1923-2012]. Sol Moshal’s one granddaughter, and first cousin of Alan Lipworth was murdered Sandy Moshal Jacobson [1957-1997]. Sol Moshal’s favorite nephew was David Gevisser “male heir” of German-American Charles W. Engelhard Jr. [1917-1971], the “control person” of the banking-mining monopoly, De Beers-Oppenheimer-Anglo American Corporation-Barclays Bank.” <alan@lipworthdiamond.com>, Professor John Raines – one of the Burglars <crcs@ugm.ac.id>, “Joe Grundfest – former Commissioner of the SEC and Stanford Law School, who wrote Gary Gevisser on April 23, 2002, Could I stop you?” <grundfest@stanford.edu>, “Major Tuvia Friling – Israel Defense Force, Deputy Commander Golani Brigade, Professor Ben Gurion University, Beersheba, Negev Desert, Israel – Author of ARROWS IN THE DARK” <friling@bgu.ac.il>, “Aharon Barak – President of the Supreme Court of Israel [1995-2006]” <barak@idc.ac.il>, “Terry Rosenberg – Director of Uranium One [2006-2018] which is controlled by President Putin-Oppenheimer.” <terry@oakbrook.co.za>, Jo Becker – New York Times journalist – Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal <jbecker@nytimes.com>, Peter Schweizer c/o Eric Eggers <Eric.Eggers@g-a-i.org>, “Radiologist Dr. Peter Chait MD – FB friend of Gary Gevisser.” <peter.chait@rogers.com>, Neil Abramson – Film maker of Very Distracting black African plight – Child Soldier 1998 <filmdog@gmail.com>, David Abrams – No longer Facebook friend of Gary Gevisser <daviddabramsesq@hotmail.com>, Lwinokur Winokur <lwinokur@bwr-la.com>, “Bill Clinton – 42nd President of the United States. 1968 De Beers-Rhodes Scholar. At 11th hour of his presidency, January 20, 2001, granted De Beers-Rhodes stooge, terrorist financier Marc Rich a pardon.” <clinton.library@nara.gov>, “Clint Eastwood – Chairman of Monetery Peninsula Foundation c/o Morgan Matthews – Executive Director, Player Relations” <MMacias@cambridgeloans.com>, Noam Chomsky – I AM movie <chomsky@MIT.EDU>, Alan Dershowitz – Harvard Law School <dersh@law.harvard.edu>, Eli Symon – Co-executor of Alan Zulman’s and Zena Gevisser Zulman’s estates <symonadv@netvision.net.il>, “Lionel H. Phillips – FB friend of Gary Gevisser” <health@meandmybody.com>, “Christopher Mooney – American lawyer making money suing the wrong banks for price fixing gold so very undervalued.” <cmooney@lshllp.com>, LKahn09 <LKahn09@aol.com>, “Amanda Byrd – Penthouse, Director, Global Licensing” <abyrd@ffn.com>, “Marilyn vos Savant – born August 11 1946 is an American magazine columnist author lecturer and playwright who rose to fame through her listing in the Guinness Book of World Records under Highest IQ. Savant” <webmaster@marilynvossavant.com>, Nobel Prize Committee Committee <info@nobel.se>, Ron Bellows – Senior risk management specialist AIG <Ron.Bellows@AIG.com>, Ron Hartenbaum – I AM movie <hartenbaum@aol.com>, George Soros <gsoros@sorosny.org>, “Peta Elizabeth Gorshel – No longer FB friend of GG.” <petag1@mindspring.com>, Jos Verhorst – Chairman De Amstel Club <josverhorst@amstelclub.nl>, Jim Al-Khalili – Physicist <j.al-khalili@surrey.ac.uk>, “David Danziger – former owner of Albi – \”Learned discipline and duty\” in the South African Apartheid Regime’s-Third Reich’s Southern Division military.” <davidd@albi.com.au>
As Randburg Commano was a light infantry unit we went up to the border and relieved another unit doing 90 days.
Year :4 .Shooting as usual in July..
I got a call asking I for I wanted to volenteer with a colleague for a 21 day on base stay.
I did and it was great
The base already had perm Guards but at certain times unknown to us ,the SADF needed extra body’s.
A very boring 3 wks.lol
That was 1983 and in 84 I left for Israel.
Go forward 34 years.
I decided ,after finding old buddies to join the SA/UK legion .
I never thaught myself as a veteran but hell now I am lol.
What was really amaizing ,Every nat serviceman remembers the pride he had for his beret .
A little issue.I had to purchase a new one green one (infantry ) and a friend just sent me the “Bokkie ” badge.
I just fitted it to the beret and I put it on .
OMG .
One has to wet the beret first to shape it .
Iv now done this and it looks great .
Well next sat am I’m doing my first parade in 34 years.Exiting .
Joseph Ancer Was also at 3Sai 1980/1
Alan Mark Zeligson Joe ,I saw u guys come in .U Jewish ?
Joseph Ancer Yes, I was at 3Sai for the full 2 years
Alan Mark Zeligson I was a kosher chef.are u related to ruth
Jeffrey Hirsch Amazing that you can remember so much detail Al. I must have blocked those years out!
Joseph Ancer She’s my 1st cousin, saw her last week. Who was the commandant of the kitchen , I still remember those days well, I still speak to a number of the guys. By the way, do you remembered a guy called goodleser from CT
Alan Mark Zeligson Do u remember the kosher chefs at potch ?
Alan Mark Zeligson What did u do there
Jeffrey Hirsch I was Mikes instructor!
Joseph Ancer I remember all the guys in my year and after, I was in signals, then became the accountant of the unit
Alan Mark Zeligson Joseph ,I knew those guys ,then my friend shaun silverman arrived in June 1981
Joseph Ancer It was Barry goodleser, he was the year before me, and your roof?
Alan Mark Zeligson Jeff u were an instructor ?with tzvi greenblatt
Jeffrey Hirsch Yes,I was with Tzvi, and Jaws. Wow, some dark days there.
Alan Mark Zeligson Jeff were u there when elandsfontein went on strike ?Sargent “Jaws “lol
Joseph Ancer He organized 8 of us (Jewish guys)to go fetch 4 guys in awol from Wineberg in CT, we bought the sergeants biltong and ended up on awol ouselves
Alan Mark Zeligson Jef and joe go to my groups I have one “Sadf kosher chefs “U don’t have to be a chef just good if u knew them too
Joseph Ancer I will, thanks
Alan Mark Zeligson Joe do u remember shaun s ginger chef mad oak
Alan Mark Zeligson Did u guys go to randburg Comando after ?Jeff what about u ?
Sylvia Sehwerert Alejo Wow amazing story
Joseph Ancer No I don’t, guys that I was with who were chefs were Ivan Davidowits, David hershowits, I think Roy etlinger was a chef, a lot of Jewish guys, I was a G1K1 ? Something like that (fit and normal) for duty . I remember Captain Roche asking us why there were so many of us trying to get out of it.
Joseph Ancer Yes, Shaun from CT?
Belinda Geffen Copitch Interesting recount of those days. I don’t remember many of my friends having such fond memories of their essays on SADF. How long did you live in Israel? And where?
Alan Mark Zeligson Yes Shaun’s girlfriend from ct
Alan Mark Zeligson Belinda I lived in Jerusalem 84-87
Belinda Geffen Copitch I lived (mostly Tel Aviv) from 1973-1979
Alan Mark Zeligson U went to kindergarten with Richard
Belinda Geffen Copitch No, I only just met him on Facebook. Moving to London, so trying to expand my circle.
Joseph Ancer I have a facebook friend who was with us in 3SAi, who did his 2 years, and after joined the British service
Alan Mark Zeligson Who joseph ?not Patric ?
Joseph Ancer His name is Terry Rowe’s, you can see him as one of my FB friends. A very nice guy.
Alan Mark Zeligson Jewish ?
Joseph Ancer No
Alan Mark Zeligson Remember Patric ?He was a kosher chef but he came from parabats he did course but broke his leg
Joseph Ancer I was also in the army with Arnold Geedts , you know the sports commentator , used to travel back and forth to Potch with him
Joseph Ancer Ivan Davidowitz used to make me steaks in the morning and bring it to the signal room, and apart from all the tins of condense milk that we drank
Joseph Ancer If you know Gabriel Falkson , he was also in the army with me. He was one my school mates from Pretoria Boys High
Joseph Ancer I’ve still got my army uniform in one of my cupboards haha with my two stripes
Alan Mark Zeligson Shaun and Ivan were best friends
Mark Blumberg Interesting story. I was also a chef. 2 yrs 77,78. 1987 was called up to 3 month camp. 1 month army riot control training and 2 months shooting school children. Hopped on a plane to Israel day before supposed to report for duty.
Gary Gevisser Subject: Conscious objector – Part 1
Gary Gevisser Part 2 – Conscious objector
BLOG: The verdict heard around the world
Gary Gevisser Part 3 – Conscious objector
Alan Mark Zeligson U know Garry ,”Oom Aubrey always asked us if we knew you.He even had a photo of you on his office wall.Im sure if u would have gone to the army u proberbly would have come out as Mrs Aubrey Levine.
Gary Gevisser Part 4 – Conscious objector
Alan Mark Zeligson So u became a Mossad opritiv during ur gadna .wow
Alan Mark Zeligson Did u partake in the Yom Kippur war ?Or were u back with mom ,dad and nanny
Alan Mark Zeligson Garry in 68 u were 7 or 8.So by 72 u were 12 and u did Ulpan gadna ?at age 12 .wow and u met Mossad at age 12.?
Alan Mark Zeligson U know what ,it’s pathetic.
Gary Gevisser Part 5 – Conscious objector
Robin Sobel 3 sai was a long time ago … I was with you there …